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Making comparisons to the developing world is absurd.In what terms? In terms of median home prices, the states that people have determined are the most desirable are Hawaii, California, Massachusetts, Colorado, Washington, New Jersey, Maryland, New York, Oregon, and Utah, in that order. The gap, even within that top-ten list, is huge. Like Hawaii is seen as so much better than Utah, by the collective wisdom of the market, that a single median home there is seen as significantly more value than having two median homes in Utah.
Yes, I was there shortly before the pandemic. It seemed like a terrible dump to me, but I'll accept that personal tastes vary from person to person and that my anecdotal experience with it may have been influenced by what things I happened to see while there, which are never going to be a representative sampling. "Fast-growing" though, doesn't mean a place isn't a dump. Most of the fastest growing cities in the world are dumps.... it's never places like Geneva or Monte Carlo that are the world's fastest-growing. It's places with giant slums Malappuram, India (44% growth in just 5 years), or Can Tho, Vietnam (37% in those same five years). When people live like this, you can add a lot of population quickly:
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KC isn't that bad, obviously, but it definitely has its slums.
I think the cities that do best tend to be the ones that stay the course with liberal government (in cooperation with wider liberalism in the state and regional governments). Take Boston, for example. In the last FBI Uniform Crime Report, it had the lowest murder rate of any large metropolitan area in the US. It has high life expectancy, low incarceration, good air quality, a walkable downtown, world-class cultural offerings, great schools, elite job opportunities, and so on. In terms of quality of life, it regularly ranks among the best in the world:
The 26 major cities with the highest quality of life in the world
Deutsche Bank released its annual "Mapping the world's prices" report, cataloguing the cost of goods and services in a cross section of the world's biggest citieswww.businessinsider.com
How did it get there? Well, it hasn't had Republican leadership even once in the last 92 years. And most of the Democratic mayors in recent decades were true-blue liberals like Ray Flynn, Tom Menino, and Michelle Wu.
Thomas M. Menino, Mayor Who Led Boston’s Renaissance, Is Dead at 71 (Published 2014)
Mr. Menino was Boston’s longest-serving mayor, and helped transform it from a gritty parochial town to an economic and cultural hub of New England.www.nytimes.com
When the people stay the course, rather than being panicked into self-destructive reactionary periods by culture-warriors driving wedge issues, things go well.
Its actually pretty on point considering the point made.Making comparisons to the developing world is absurd.
As to Florida: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-housing-least-affordable-in-the-u-s-miami-tampa-orlando-naples/
Moreover, if you think KC is a dump, I can't imagine you have spent much time in the city.
The fact is, you can rationalize it all you want, but the average voter is going to think that not prosecuting shoplifting is ridiculous. The average voter is going to think you know, I really don't want to have my kids seeing a bunch of addicts smoking heroin or shooting up out on the street in front of god and everyone. The average voter is going to think that they don't like homeless addicts turning their neighborhood parks into a combination of an open sewer and a landfill.Its actually pretty on point considering the point made.
No, it isn't. It may make you uncomfortable, but you should interrogate that emotional response. If rapid population growth is meant to be a sign of the greatness of a city, why is it that all the most rapidly growing cities are absolute shitholes?Making comparisons to the developing world is absurd.
Moreover, if you think KC is a dump, I can't imagine you have spent much time in the city.
You seem very pissy today. These calls to scale back the harshness of policing in new york and other states didnt come out of the ether. I invite you to step into my worldThe fact is, you can rationalize it all you want, but the average voter is going to think that not prosecuting shoplifting is ridiculous. The average voter is going to think you know, I really don't want to have my kids seeing a bunch of addicts smoking heroin or shooting up out on the street in front of god and everyone. The average voter is going to think that they don't like homeless addicts turning their neighborhood parks into a combination of an open sewer and a landfill.
If you don't think that kind of stuff will hurt Democrats at the polls this November, then you are delusional. Go to San Francisco or Seattle and I will kiss your ass and mine twice if you can walk 3 blocks without seeing someone smoking heroin. Now you can talk "drug war" and "mass incarceration" all you want, but the average person visiting those cities sees that and thinks no ****ing way do I want this where I live.
The reason why your comparing cities in the developing world to American cities is absurd is because in the developing world, people are moving from extreme poverty to relative poverty. The slum in New Delhi is better than facing starvation in a small village.No, it isn't. It may make you uncomfortable, but you should interrogate that emotional response. If rapid population growth is meant to be a sign of the greatness of a city, why is it that all the most rapidly growing cities are absolute shitholes?
I see. So, that's based not on the price to live in a place (which is a reflection of how high people have bid that cost of admission), but rather that price relative to local incomes (which are relatively low in Florida). Florida is an odd case, since it's a retirement destination. Retirees tend to have fairly low incomes, but also low expenses (since they don't commute, don't typically have kids to support, generally aren't nursing mortgage payments and student loans, etc.) I'd expect affordability, in terms of ratios of local costs to local incomes, would tend to be low in most retirement areas.
It wasn't much time. But, again, whether you spent a day or a decade there, your personal experience is never going to be a representative sampling. Mostly you'll just see the neighborhoods where you live and work, and the people who run in similar social circles, all of which could be very atypical. That's why we do better to look at stats, which can be verifiable and representative. We know, in that sense, that KC is a horribly crime-plagued city, given its high murder rate, and not a very good place to find a high-paying job, judging by low per capita income (relative to other big MSA's), and that the market has judged it a lousy place to live, based on the low home values there.
Have you seen the mayor that NYC elected, it seems that the residents there wanted some of the policing back again.You seem very pissy today. These calls to scale back the harshness of policing in new york and other states didnt come out of the ether. I invite you to step into my world. Ill hold you to that bet lol!
Stop and frisk was abolished derp derp. You have no solutions but locking people up then act all surprised when people are less trusting of police.Have you seen the mayor that NYC elected, it seems that the residents there wanted some of the policing back again.. It is a balance. On one hand, people do not want an abusive police force. On the other hand, communities want law and order, it's a balance.
[/QUOTE]The reason why your comparing cities in the developing world to American cities is absurd is because in the developing world, people are moving from extreme poverty to relative poverty.
It's cheap and it's geographically fairly convenient for people moving from still poorer areas..... much as is the case for those third-world cities.Now, why would KC be growing despite its hot summers and cold winters
That is an article from 2016, and when it comes to voters, perception is all the matters. Pointing out to someone that is concerned with crime in their neighborhood that there was a time when it was even more dangerous is as dumb as telling someone concerned about wages and working conditions that there was a time when we had sweatshops.Voters’ perceptions of crime continue to conflict with reality
Despite double-digit decreases in U.S. violent and property crime rates since 2008, most voters say crime has gotten worse during that span.www.pewresearch.org
Now you wanna bullshit me with this notion that policing has not ever been disproportionate to the actual crime rate? Lol
Perceptions are what got us this over incarceration problem in the supposed “land of the free” tm in fact i bet those very same asshats joke about prison rape all the time.That is an article from 2016, and when it comes to voters, perception is all the matters. Pointing out to someone that is concerned with crime in their neighborhood that there was a time when it was even more dangerous is as dumb as telling someone concerned about wages and working conditions that there was a time when we had sweatshops.
Again, perceptions are all the matter when it comes to voters. If we refuse to recognize that, then we may as well give the keys to the country to the GOP, because they definitely get it.Perceptions are what got us this over incarceration problem in the supposed 0land of the free” tm in fact i bet those very same asshats joke about prison rape all the time.
Compared to Bloomberg style policing you might as well have a republican. I dont see much difference between tough on crime democrats and tough on crime republicans.Again, perceptions are all the matter when it comes to voters. If we refuse to recognize that, then we may as well give the keys to the country to the GOP, because they definitely get it.
Yeah, there is no difference at all between Mike Bloomberg and Greg Abbott or Ron DeSantis...Compared to Bloomberg style you might as well have a republican.
There really isnt. Bloomberg fought against welfare and minimum wage raises and pretty much acted like a republican for most of his career., fought to harass and single out black folks with police as per his admission. The same daily harassment of minorities happens.Yeah, there is no difference at all between Mike Bloomberg and Greg Abbott or Ron DeSantis...
The ultimate white privilege is impracticality. There is a mile of difference him and those 2. Did Mike Bloomberg create a Stasi with bounties on women that seeking abortion care? Did Mike Bloomberg ban teachers from even discussing families with same sex parents? Would Mike Bloomberg banned businesses from having vaccine requirements for their employees during a deadly pandemic? I mean come on.There really isnt. Bloomberg fought against welfare and minimum wage raises, fought to harass and single out black folks with police as per his admission.
Bloomberg created a stasi for minorities. You call it white privilege but actually i got most of my info on bloomberg from black progressives including BenjaminThe ultimate white privilege is impracticality. There is a mile of difference him and those 2. Did Mike Bloomberg create a Stasi with bounties on women that seeking abortion care? Did Mike Bloomberg ban teachers from even discussing families with same sex parents? Would Mike Bloomberg banned businesses from having vaccine requirements for their employees during a deadly pandemic? I mean come on.
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