Care to expand on that?There is no way to determine the most efficient allocation of resources without profit.
What do you think are genuine ways (if any) that a communist society could overcome the problems of inefficient generation of resources due to factors such as abolition of profit motive and abolition of diverse economic variables, e.g corporations - and to which fair distribution becomes much more of a difficulty?
Not an unreasonable request, nor is it impossible. With the development of reprogramable matter through the use of nanotechnology, our possibilities become...extensive.Unlimited resources.
Good luck with that.
Not an unreasonable request, nor is it impossible. With the development of reprogramable matter through the use of nanotechnology, our possibilities become...extensive.
What do you think are genuine ways (if any) that a communist society could overcome the problems of inefficient generation of resources due to factors such as abolition of profit motive and abolition of diverse economic variables, e.g corporations - and to which fair distribution becomes much more of a difficulty?
Democratic socialism is a description used by various socialist movements and organisations, to emphasise the democratic character of their political orientation. The term is sometimes used synonymously with 'social democracy', but many self-identified democratic socialists oppose contemporary social democracy because it is based on the capitalist mode of production
Energy's supply is great enough that it ought as well be unlimited.In other words, your economic ideas are a pipe dream. Matter only comes from matter, and to change something into something else requires energy. Energy is never unlimited.
The only method would be through smaller social units.
A version of communism works with Hutterite communities in Western Canada and US. The resources of the farming community are shared between the members (they sell there production to groups outside the colony).
The reason they work is that the people in the colony all know each other. Should a member not pull their own weight, it is known to all in the community. As such the social pressure to work hard and contribute to the colony is strong as those who dont are "shunned" and as the colony is the only social group most members have, such actions are rather devastating to the person.
When a colonies population gets to large, it splits and uses the common resources of the original one to form a new colony. Overall the Hutterites are one of the most successfull farmers/ranchers in western Canada.
Not sure on how this would work in more specialized technology industries , Consider that Fox Con a contract manufacturer has factories that employe 100 000 people in China for example
In other words, your economic ideas are a pipe dream. Matter only comes from matter, and to change something into something else requires energy. Energy is never unlimited.
So since we live in a world of scarcity, we need to determine where resources should go. That's where the profit motive comes into hand. How do we know how many potatoes should be used in french fries, sold in markets, mashed and processed, etc.? How do we know how many houses should be built and where? How do we know how many tractors we should use for the beet farm and how many should be used for the orange grove? How do we know if farm land should still be used as farm land instead of being converted to housing? You cannot answer these questions without profit.
Remember, communism is only a pipe dream on par with anarcho-capitalism.
Those are HUGELY different things. Actually they are direct opposites.
Energy's supply is great enough that it ought as well be unlimited.
This is not a pipe dream, this is hard science that is currently under development. I do agree that it is probably decades from being workable and decades further from being economically viable, but it WILL happen.
Universally Programmable Intelligent Matter Homepage
Claytronics - Carnegie Mellon University
National Nanotechnology Initiative
In a world of essentially unlimited resources, there is no need for scarcity and thus no need for profit.
This is why I refer to myself as a Transhumanistic Socialist
Grey Goo is a product of science fiction, not reality
Yes but I think anarcho-capitalism is very much plausible. It's simply the deligitimization of government.
Anarcho-capitalism has existed, and it's become a band of corruption. Law reflecting the rights of the few (rich). Services that fail to extend to an entire people. Power based on influence with disregard for human rights.
Nobody wants that, unless you're one of the few against one of the many have-nots.
And as far as economic flaws in communism, they're inherent with the structure. First of all, it violates human nature to think that wealth distributes evenly, no matter what. It's a brave man who can look you in the eye and say that the engineer has equal worth to society as the street-sweeper.
Both serve an important function to society. The engineer has a more visible profile but it would be foolish to undervalue a street-sweeper; if all the street-sweepers in the country stopped working, you'd notice.First of all, it violates human nature to think that wealth distributes evenly, no matter what. It's a brave man who can look you in the eye and say that the engineer has equal worth to society as the street-sweeper.
How is that unfair?In short, it's a guy with no apples stealing one from someone who has 2, and saying it's fair.
Both serve an important function to society. The engineer has a more visible profile but it would be foolish to undervalue a street-sweeper; if all the street-sweepers in the country stopped working, you'd notice.
How is that unfair?
So is the billionaire really as valuable to society as the common working folk? I would seriously doubt it.
But what would happen if everyone except billionaires suddenly dropped dead. It would be only a matter of hours or days before the billionaires electricity and communications systems went off. Maybe only a matter of days or weeks before their water supply was shut off, maybe a matter of months before their nearest source of gasoline ran out.
How is asking the wealthy to give back to a society what they've taken out construed as punishing them?So should we kill billionares? Hahah just kidding.
No but seriously punishing the rich is punishing success. Also that billionare's company provides millions of jobs to lower class people. If you shot all the major people in walmart then millions of their employees would be unemployed. That really isn't helping society much. (And might I add, all those sweatshops that make many of their products would be shut down, meaning all the laborers there would end up either becoming theives or prostitutes or dead)
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