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It is not up to me to measure success for others, that would be presumptive and wrong.
As for the least successful person, I think back to an old Proverb: "The nail that sticks out gets hammered down."
How often do you think about the least successfull people in this world?
Why is that?
I presume you know that they starve, thirst and suffer deeply, every minute we discuss this.
What do you really think about that?
How often do you think about the least successfull people in this world?
Why is that?
I presume you know that they starve, thirst and suffer deeply, every minute we discuss this.
What do you really think about that?
How successfull are we?
I would have voted "In some respects" if that were an option. Because it's not, I stuck with 'No.'
Aspects I find pathetic include:
- The pervasive attitudes that autonomous legal adults are entitled to their needs being met by the external, as though they're still children.
- Economic policies based on a gambler's fallacy "if I blow it all now, things will be better later and THEN I'll be able to pay my bills."
- Unrestrained population growth and the visceral/emotional refusal to discuss slowing down.
- Staunch bargain shoppers who get angry that companies pursue economies of scale and cost-minimize.
- Party loyalists
Some things I find absolutely amazing, when I sit back and reflect on it, which I think we would not have invented were it not for our pathetic but advanced civilization:
- Wireless broadband internet. Do you guys realize how freaking amazing this is? It is unbelievably amazing. Revolutionary. The most profound advancement since the printing press.
- Self-fusing silicon tape. My god this stuff works amazingly well. A million times better than duct tape.
- Filson
- Chain saws
Every time I use these things I feel a sense of awe and appreciation for human intelligence and innovation.
Over the long run? "That the superior power of population is repressed, and the actual population kept equal to the means of subsistence, by misery and vice." - Thomas Malthus
True.. And yes, I prefer to keep that as vague as possible. As you can see, singing isn't a strong suit in my repertoire.I'm somewhat artsy
Especially the one with the tear.HEY! ME TOO!
Man, I miss those Velvet Elvis'es.
Hmm. I find your post quite interesting. But on the other side I think most technology is pathetic as well.
I either find it disappointing and quite primitive.
And I find that it's there only to make a profit, which is an ideology I completely disagree with.
...and why would we cut down trees if we do not absolutely have to?
Is this world not ugly enough with our huge, damaging and ugly fingerprint on it?
Unfortunately our attempts at central control have often led to even more suffering, misery and death.Our population is out of control. This planet is hugely overpopulated. It would better be managed with common sense, good organisation and quaity management, rather than suffering, misery and death.
I'll have you know that there is no greater engine for prosperity and civilization than western civilization.
So while this single idea that has liberated mankind, gave us knowledge and understanding, technology and a society of plenty and opportunity isn't good enough for you... then by all means, go for it. Make something better. I'll be waiting. Create a better model for society than western civilization.
I should also mention that I did have an original "Dogs Playing Poker" on display in my basement. Don't know what could've happened to it, but it's gone, and civilization is a little worse off for it's loss.HEY! ME TOO!
Man, I miss those Velvet Elvis'es.
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Well you sound like a spoiled brat who has never studied history then, frankly. What sorts of science fiction technology do you think SHOULD magically exist?
Are you a monk? The only reason a living thing exerts effort on its environment is to make itself better off in the near future than it is in the current moment. That is essentially the same drive as the profit-motive. Living things tend to "work" to "make a profit."
Just like thinking magic technology should exist, you also think people should not be compelled to do anything in order to meet their own needs. That is unquestionably utopian.
I absolutely have to.
Umm, now is about the time I would advise scheduling a meeting with a psychiatrist. I have a soft spot for cynicism and pessimism, but not to this wild extreme. Your bitterness at the world for not being perfect for you is not going to translate over to having coherent political, economic or social ideas.
Hey man, if you want to hate on corporations, governments, and (arguably) the most comfortable living conditions in all of recorded human history, that is ultimately your prerogative. I won't quibble with you over it.
I would, however; point out that there plenty of deserts, jungles, and taigas out there for a man to lose himself in if he is so inclined.
Go live like all of our ancestors before the modern era were forced to for a few years, and then come back and tell me how you think modern civilization stacks up.
Just an idea, of course.
Don't you think the problem may be that some people think they know what EVERYONE else thinks, wants and needs?
Any civilization that has succeeded in putting men on the moon is far from pathetic.
How often do you think about the least successfull people in this world?
Why is that?
I presume you know that they starve, thirst and suffer deeply, every minute we discuss this.
What do you really think about that?
How successfull are we?
Hmmm, if the planet is indeed overpopulated with humans that suggests we are a most successful species (in the natural milieu). Considering the US is one of those large population centers, it also makes us a prominent part of that success. So, naturally speaking, hardly pathetic at all.
Hmmm, if the planet is indeed overpopulated with humans that suggests we are a most successful species (in the natural milieu). Considering the US is one of those large population centers, it also makes us a prominent part of that success. So, naturally speaking, hardly pathetic at all.
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I think that way too many people who don't even know what all of the problems are think that they have the answers to all of them.
And a lot of those people are in Washington, D.C. wasting money.
Yup. The only "pathetic" thing about it is that we haven't managed to figure out how to start effectively exporting people off of this dirty ball of rock yet.
Time's a wastin' here and we've got places to explore and worlds to conquer. Get to it science! Chop, chop! :lol:
Do you agree with the statement (above)?
What a ridiculous world, full of ridiculous countries, and their naive peoples.
Every single person on this planet is ready to embrace a world society that makes sense. A society where we all get along and cooperate, a society where no one starves, where no one suffers. Everyone is ready to live in and contribute to a society where people do not live under horrific conditions. Everyone is ready to embrace a society where we all cooperate for a better world. Everyone is ready to embrace a society which is well organised and stable with a model that doesn't look like its made by monkeys. Everyone is ready for a society without all the lies, the deceit, manipulation and corruption. Everyone is ready to embrace a free society rather than be jailed and restricted by their governments. Everyone is ready to be free and open their mind instead of being narrow minded and controlled. Everyone is ready to embrace a society where everyone else is good and kind. Everyone is ready to live on a clean and wonderful planet. Everyone is ready to embrace useful change. Everyone wants quality. Everyone is ready for a fair economic system that make sense.Everyone wants a world of joy. Everyone wants to be safe. Everyone wants to experience fantastic and great things. Everyone wants to breathe clean air, everyone wants to drink pure water, everyone wants to eat delicious food. We all want to be happy. Everyone wants to live on a planet where everyone else is happy. Everyone wants a planet where everyone have all these things. Everyone wants to have a just society.Everyone wants everyone else to smile.
But no. We have a society full of corruption, our planet is turning into a horrible hole, we are ruining the only place we have. We fight wars AGAINST OURSELVES. We lie, we manipulate, we are cruel to each others. We live on deception. Everyone is trapped in a society with massive brainwashing, where they have no ability to think for themselves any longer. We let the governments take all power and leave only an illusion to the people. Our society look like its organised by monkeys and savages. People starve, die of thirst and suffer every single minute. Our society is completely unstable so we choose not to cooperate and rather work against each others. For anyone who is awake and not an idiot, our society doesnt make sense at all. We poison our own food, we pollute our drinking water and soil, we empty the oceans, we live in really ugly cities. The government is hugging us so hard that they are suffocating us. Our rights are taken away day by day. We only care about profit. Everything we buy is low quality junk. Most people either steal from others as a criminal act or as a legal job, most people think only of them self. Most people say cruel things to others and try to create disharmony since they have no harmony themselves. We all feel bad.
So f*** the US, they are now the worst.
...and Europe, we are on the same slippery slope.
We step on the shoulders of the poor and suffering, we abuse other nations, we wage wars against them and kill their families, we poison their minds with unsound logic, we pretend we have democracy and stand and step on freedom and choice. We do most of the above things. We suck actually. We are immoral bastards.
So, aside from the crooks in the US and Europe, how is the rest of the world? A damn slave labour camp, and those who don't do that, they suffer and die every day, from starvation or thirst or just horrid general conditions.
This is ONE planet. We are ALL responsible to look at ourselves as ONE people. If someone from outside looked at this place, YOU would be considered one of those idiots on a planet with such a pathetic civilisation.
Personally I am deeply ashamed to be a human being, being part of such a pathetic civilisation among people who do such horrendous things. I feel deeply ashamed that we let the people suffer, starve and die when we can EASILY do something about it. I feel sorry for all the dumb-asses who believe we live in good and free societies. Its probably because you only have trash to compare with.
Take your head out of the sand and vote.
The same is also true for bacteria, viruses and parasites. Hardly admirable and desireable.
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