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Orders from the Boss

Mycroft said:
I wish people would make up their minds.

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But a source familiar with the investigation pointed Fox News Digital, specifically, to Trump’s “Statement of Financial Condition,” which reports an entity’s assets, liabilities and abilities to raise and use funds.​
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The source told Fox News Digital that Trump did not inflate his financial statements, as prosecutors had anticipated, but instead, undervalued his assets. ​
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Well then, this will be a slam dunk for Trump. AMIRITE?? The DA going walk into court with nothing. She should have thought this through. How embarrassing for her! Perhaps she should have gone to law school or consulted someone who had before she decided to charge Trump with this BS. I'll bet the judge is going to be mighty pissed at her. Might even dress her down right there in court.
 
Mycroft said:
yawn...

You heard a buzzword and now you think it applies to everything.

Bye.
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I heard that "buzzword" a very long time ago.

But I accept your abject surrender.
 
ASHES said:
It's a bit of an audio illusion. I believe he's saying "you otta go after this attorney general".
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It doesn't really matter exactly how it sounded. It's coded for his violent supporters to use violence in any way possible to get the prosecutor. We all know what he's doing. For some ungodly reason, the courts are exercising restraint with Trump.

He ought to be in jail. Any other person would have been put there months ago.
 
ASHES said:
It's not helping him so he can keep talking. It's also not great for him that something captured in HD from 10 angles requires a detailed analysis to decipher, and no matter which answer you go with its not good. I think the "you're to" is the worst, as it implies a new directive. Also think it's the least likely, as the audio sounds more like otta or had to.
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It's coded for his cult. We all know what he's doing. He's threatening the lives of those who choose to prosecute him. He needs to be locked up.
 
Integrityrespec said:
Trump didn't borrow from them. He borrowed from banks and lending institutions who are experts in assessing real estate value and if they disagree with the value declared they can order an appraisal to verify. Not a single one of the lenders, did so. Not any complained or questioned any of the loans and all were repaid and some repaid early. So tell me again who besides Letitia James butt hurt is an offended party.
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The citizens of NY have been defrauded. Trump has lied to advance his businesses. Rather than spending all your useful time defending the fraud, you might try listening to experts on the matter. Trump committed fraud, period. And in doing so, he also violated tax laws. If you devalue a property to cause a lower tax assessment, you're cheating the people of NY and breaking the law.
 
jnug said:
Listen to the audio. He says "You're to go after this attorney general"

Oh and there is not a pubic hair's practical difference between "you oughta go after this attorney general" and "You're to go after this attorney general".

Besides, you wouldn't want to accuse the Wharton grad of not being able to speak proper American English would you!
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He said you ought to go after.

Still bad though.
 
jnug said:
No the case concerns overvaluing properties for one purpose, Insurance policies and collateral for bank loans and undervaluing the same properties for tax purposes thus committing all sorts of different types of fraud.

Its a document's case and NY State already has the documents which is why the Judge already gave Summary Judgement for the Plaintiff (Tish James) for the main claim in the case. Trump ruled liable. What remains for that part of the case is the penalty for the liability. The rest of the case as to the claims (charges) are 6 more in total. Tish James is asking $250M. It has been offered that she could end up getting closer to $750M if Trump losses on all claims.
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In the vernacular it was once called keeping two sets of books, but he seems to have at least half a dozen different sets. ;)

He and his supporters think that is perfectly okay not realizing it's illegal.
 
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Integrityrespec said:
Trump didn't borrow from them. He borrowed from banks and lending institutions who are experts in assessing real estate value and if they disagree with the value declared they can order an appraisal to verify. Not a single one of the lenders, did so. Not any complained or questioned any of the loans and all were repaid and some repaid early. So tell me again who besides Letitia James butt hurt is an offended party.
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This keeps being brought up despite the what the law actually states, which means the state can bring these charges regardless of whether those affected make claims or not. In the case of undervaluing his properties to reduce what he owes in property taxes, it is the state and its people who are defrauded.
 
jnug said:
Trump from outside of the courtroom in NY at the start of what remains of his fraud case regarding Tish James:
"You're to go after this Attorney General"

More orders from private citizen Trump regarding what he wants people including elected officials to do.

Much like ordering his minions in the U.S. Congress to open an Impeachment Inquiry though probably without enough of a following within NY government to go anywhere
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Its ok though for the AG to campaign on 'going after trump.' Right?
 
Integrityrespec said:
But my understanding is there is no aggrieved victim. The case was brought by the AG and there is no single victim who has lodged a complaint. Nobody was defrauded, nobody lost any money, no loan failed to be repaid, no bank complained. In fact if the AG handed filed the case it would not exist.
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That’s your understanding sure but it’s been covered dozens of times already.

"No bank was affected. No bank was hurt," he said moments before the start of the trial, noting that all his loans were paid back on time.

Under this New York statute, however, the attorney general did not have to show that there were victims, only that Mr Trump committed ongoing fraud.
 
The dude has been a mobbed up hideously corrupt criminal his entire life always with minions and thugs to do his biddings. Being president once won't change that. It's who he is.
 
Anyone remember this?


And, no it's not fake. It's from an actual 50's Western called Trackdown.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0732741/
The End of the World
Episode aired May 9, 1958
Hoby (Robert Culp) has to deal with a snake oil salesman selling the end of the world to a town filled with gullible people.
 
CaughtInThe said:
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I notice that the chyron in FOX's video says TFG "decries corruption" . . . That means, to me, that FOX is saying that there is corruption and TFG is criticizing it. Shows how biased FOX is, taking words and bending them to state a falsity.
 
jnug said:
You're to go after this Attorney General sounds like an order to me.
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Since he was addressing a bunch of reporters, it sounded to me as if Trump was suggesting the press begin shining a spotlight on her and digging up the dirt.
 
Integrityrespec said:
So explain the fraud case. Isn't that where they say he overvalued property? I wasn't aware that was a crime. My thought has always been it's worth whatever you say it is and whatever someone will agree to pay for it. If I say my house is worth $1 million and somebody pays that to get it, because I will not sale if for less, then it's worth that. Right? Just looking at properties around Mar A Lago there appear to be much smaller properties with less impressive structures for much more than the 18 million the judge says it's worth. BTW, I didn't know the judge was a real estate appraiser. Sounds like prejudice by a democrat.
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He overvalued his property for loan purposes and undervalued them for tax purposes.
 
ClaraD said:
he undervalued them for TAXES and overvalued them for loans. Mar a Lago is no where near worth 1 billion dollars. The Disney Resort Wyndham Grand sold for $120 million. Mar a Lago only has 126 rooms...it is not near as large as the hotel I just mentioned and is no where near worth what The Wyndham Grande Orlando is.
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But there's all that (fake) gold at MAL. Isn't that worth something besides being in bad taste?
 
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