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It's a good bet that they won't do it again while they're locked up in prison, eh?
bet they won't do it again no matter what happens
Please provide a citation for that evidence.
You're the one with the claim, so the burden of proof is on you. You want to say that a gun in the home increases risk, so prove the gun which caused the injury is the same gun which was kept in the home. That's a cornerstone of their claims so it should be very easy to find. I looked and didn't find it. Prove me wrong by quoting that potion of the study.Please provide a citation for that evidence.
Causes of suicide:
Owning a firearm doesn't increase the chance of suicide, and no owning a firearm doesn't lower the chance of suicide.
I'm sorry you feel having a shotgun at home makes you less safe.
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I wonder why "People will be held accountable for this tragedy", while other tragedies are just considered "accidents".
Accident:
Accident:
Seeking to arrest:
The word accident doesn't even appear in the OPs article or headline.
One of these things is not like the others :thinking
OK, that's good, but in almost all cases, a baseball bat or frying pan would work just as well, because few burglars are also cold blooded killers. .
I did. The research doesn't prove that the gun which caused the death is the same gun which was kept in the home. The research claimed they were the same but nowhere in that study do yo find their proof. That's the fault, they made a claim without proof.
You want me to quote something, but that there's no proof to be quoted is the very thing which is faulty.
I dont get that. I wouldnt have my house gun if it didnt make me feel safer. I have examined the pros and cons, and received training and worked out scenarios and a safety plan.
I dont have any other people in my household but there are plenty of safety plans and even alternatives to a gun if you dont want to commit properly to the responsibilities of gun ownership.
They are full of ****.
Firearm deaths don't make the top ten causes of death for children and adolescents.
Common Causes of Death for Children
1 2 and 3 are car accidents, drowning and fires.
You can't legislate personal responsibility. If you can't trust a person with a gun, then you can't trust them with a child, or a car, or any meaningful job, or even a box cutter.
I've already posted multiple studies that show otherwise. Here are more
Gun access tied to greater suicide, murder risk: study | Reuters
Access to Guns Increases Risk of Suicide, Homicide | UC San Francisco
Guns & Suicide: The Hidden Toll | Magazine Features | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health Magazine Features
A gun in the home trebles the risk of a successful suicide attempt
Dr Ellis might need to take that up that discrepancy with your American Academy of Pediatrics then
This is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. The study cited did not reach the conclusion the news article is presenting. Here is that study, here is it's conclusion:I've already posted multiple studies that show otherwise. Here are more
Gun access tied to greater suicide, murder risk: study | Reuters
Hospitalization for a firearm-related injury is associated with a heightened risk for subsequent violent victimization or crime perpetration. Further research at the intersection of clinical care, the criminal justice system, and public health to evaluate the effectiveness of interventions delivered to survivors of firearm-related injury is warranted.
Again, should we not have enacted seat belt laws and chalked it up to failure to be responsible?
6 years old means they're irrelevant right? After all nothing that happened more than 6 years ago matters.
I didn't say you didn't have some excuse why not. I just said you ignored them as irrelevant, because you don't WANT to consider stats that don't support your position.
"I'm still ignoring your studies in favor of my own, since mine are correct and yours are not."
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Same should happen to the parents that leave their kids to die in hot cars right?
How about the parents whose kid drowns in their pool?
This thread is about kids killed by guns.
If you want to start threads about those other topics, get after it. :roll:
This is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. The study cited did not reach the conclusion the news article is presenting. Here is that study, here is it's conclusion:
The study is saying if you were a victim of a gunshot then you're likely going to be a victim of violence again. This study said nothing about suicide other than suicide by gun is more likely to succeed. My source did not contradict this. My source said if you're denied a gun you'll just find some other way to kill yourself.
Ditto.
This thread is about kids killed by guns.
If you want to start threads about those other topics, get after it. :roll:
Another perfect example. From your link:I've already posted multiple studies that show otherwise. Here are more...
Access to Guns Increases Risk of Suicide, Homicide | UC San Francisco....
Since not all of the studies assessed whether victims had firearms in their homes, the meta-analysis does not draw conclusions about the associations between suicide or homicide and the location of the firearms, but merely whether victims had access to them.
Or maybe the AAP's study is biased. Or they've assembled their data in a manner that supports the conclusions they preferred. Wouldn't be the first time.
"There are lies; there are damned lies; and then there are statistics..."
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