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What facts? :doh You have yet to provide ONE fact - pertaining to ANYTHING. :doh1.) nice try but the facts disagree with you. try again
Deflecting [supposed] Deflection? :doh Are you sure it's not... dare I say... a "strawman?"2.) deflection noted
As are [unfortunately] all of yours.3.) your meaningless opinion noted
Again, no attempt whatsoever to backup your own claims. CONSISTENTLY refusing any attempt to do so either - which can only be interpreted one way - that you know you got nothing so you do the only thing you know how to do well which is say repeatedly "you got nothing" (projection) and / or assert "strawman!" demonstrating anew your lack of understanding there as well.4.) another failed deflection noted
Again, an appeal for facts does not constitute providing facts yourself. You have nothing. You've provided nothing, save for a host of meaningless opinions about supposed.... "stuff."again let us know when you have anything factual to back up your false claims and failed strawman . . . . ANYTHING factual . . . . .
1.)What facts? :doh You have yet to provide ONE fact - pertaining to ANYTHING. :dohHHeck, I can't even play with your saying "nice try" all the time because you have yet to "try" posting anything factual.
And still no attempt whatsoever to demonstrate you know what a strawman is despite the wealth of obvious evidence you don't (reference all your posts where you incorrectly assert "strawman!"). I guess I CAN say "nice try" there, but honestly, who cares and why bother anyway?
2.)Deflecting [supposed] Deflection? :doh Are you sure it's not... dare I say... a "strawman?"
3.)As are [unfortunately] all of yours.
Again, no attempt whatsoever to backup your own claims. CONSISTENTLY refusing any attempt to do so either - which can only be interpreted one way - that you know you got nothing so you do the only thing you know how to do well which is say repeatedly "you got nothing" (projection) and / or assert "strawman!" demonstrating anew your lack of understanding there as well.
4.)Again, an appeal for facts does not constitute providing facts yourself. You have nothing. You've provided nothing, save for a host of meaningless opinions about supposed.... "stuff."
5.) You've repeatedly, and ad-nauseum asserted nothing except "you've got nothing." That pretty much sums up the definition of projection there.
Repeating the same thing over and over again, deflecting and projecting while in the process stubbornly asserting some special right not to have to provide one shred of anything factual yourself does not in itself remotely constitute "facts."1.) actually i did see previous posts, you dodged them, nothing changes that fact, keep trying to sell this lie though its very entertaining
2.) double down on your deflection noted
3.) another failed deflection
4.) a triple down on your deflection and lie. SOrry post history proves you wrong
5.) its cute you think this works on honest posters, it doesnt, it fails every time and its why we are laughing at your failed posts. Keep trying its hilarious.
again let us know when you have anything factual to back up your false claims and failed strawman . . . . ANYTHING factual . . . . .
Repeating the same thing over and over again, deflecting and projecting while in the process stubbornly asserting some special right not to have to provide one shred of anything factual yourself does not in itself remotely constitute "facts."
Merely SAYING "deflection," "you got nothing," "it's hilarious" etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. ad-nauseum means nothing. Squat - which is evidence itself that that's all you got. Moreover, I think we're seeing the formal genesis here of a new logical fallacy being defined in the exercise of this nonsense. I haven't a name for it yet, but rest assured when I do, you'll get the credit you deserve.
Anyway, until such a time as someone can demonstrate (rhetorically, please) how two grown adult men lustfully gorging themselves on one another, or sexually sating one another via any of their orifices, or romantically kissing or showing any other form of romantic affection is "normal" behavior, my assertions that such behavior is deviant, perverse, and grossly self-indulgent stand as correct and factual - as do the assertions that two such individuals who seek the special benefits society confers on the marriage of a man and a woman are just as deviant, perverse, and grossly self-indulgent as their behaviors in beds, baths, arcades, clubs or wherever.
And that, my friend, like it or not, agree with it or not, believe it or not, is fact.
Well I have to give you credit, you are anything if not consistent. Your posts are completely vacuous, but you are consistent.wired another long post that changes nothing, you strawman is still a complete failure as pointed out by me and others with facts.
and NO nothign you said above is a fact, nobody is honest and educated on the topic is fooled by it, keep trying though we love it
the only fact is, your strawman is a complete failure. Post 1106 proves that among others.
again let us know when you have anything factual to back up your false claims and failed strawman . . . . ANYTHING factual . . . . .
Well I have to give you credit, you are anything if not consistent. Your posts are completely vacuous, but you are consistent.
Regardless, until such a time as someone - anyone - even (dare I suggest) you Agent J can demonstrate (rhetorically, please) how two grown adult men lustfully gorging themselves on one another, or sexually sating one another via any of their orifices, or romantically kissing or showing any other form of romantic affection is "normal" behavior, my assertions that such behavior is deviant, perverse, and grossly self-indulgent stand as correct and factual - as do the assertions that two such individuals who seek the special benefits society confers on the marriage of a man and a woman are just as deviant, perverse, and grossly self-indulgent as their behaviors in beds, baths, arcades, clubs or wherever.
And that, my friend, like it or not, agree with it or not, believe it or not, is fact. It's no "strawman." It's FACT. Moreover, and more persuasively, it's simple, everyday, basic common sense.
Now, since you claim you are "honest and educated" on the topic - perhaps you'll regale us with evidence of such honesty and education and answer the question above?
I'll be here....
AGENT J;1062348802; Post #1106 said:and yet there is still no force :shrug:
Canada doesnt matter to the US and those photographers still dont "accept" homosexuality.
the force acceptance argument is and has always been a failuer.
why the law then? to protect peoples rights.
do all people accept that minorities are equal? women are equal? other religions are equal? interracial marriages are ok? etc etc? NOPE. but wait how is that possible since theres laws protecting those rights. Oh i know how because laws arent forcing acceptance. A fact that wont change. You are still free to think what ever you want.
Your strawman fails.
Look, I know you're trying. I know you'd like to think your "arguments" are somehow convincing, somehow logical, somehow packed with intellectual meat. But the simple, unfortunate fact is they aren't. To be honest, they're barely decipherable, even after the ad-nauseum repetition.translation: you still have ZERO facts to support your failed and destroyed strawman that acceptance is being forced. THanks, we all knew that already.
I notived you dodged post 1106 AGAIN
Thanks for playing but facts destroy your post again and you back peddling and trying to reframe doesnt fool anybody either, eventhough your reframe is also 100% false and a complete failure which is even more comical. AT best its meaningless opinin BUT please let me know if you want me to address your new failed argument because i will gladly destroy it too.
ANd i hope you are being honest with your "ill be here" statement, i actually hope you never leave we need the entertainment.
again let us know when you have anything factual to back up your false claims and failed strawman . . . . ANYTHING factual . . . . .
Post #1106? The one above? Unintelligible. Intellectually indecipherable, and most importantly --> factually void.
Look, I know you're trying. I know you'd like to think your "arguments" are somehow convincing, somehow logical, somehow packed with intellectual meat. But the simple, unfortunate fact is they aren't. To be honest, they're barely decipherable, even after the ad-nauseum repetition.
Now from the sounds of it, you're deriving a lot of entertainment having that pointed out. Most would shrink off in embarrassment having been so soundly rebuffed, but then I'm forced to remember that this is a discussion about homosexuality too, where shame and embarrassment are inherently anathema. So there it is. We can continue this charade - me posting facts, you denying them. Or, we can discuss the facts I'm posting.
Let me know.
I really only need one fact - the same one you keep dodging - the fact of how two grown adult men lustfully gorging themselves on one another, or sexually sating one another via any of their orifices, or romantically kissing or showing any other form of romantic affection is deviant, perverse, and grossly self-indulgent behavior. That, and the fact that two such men might seek to justify, rationalize, or otherwise seek approval of such behavior, let alone via the route of marriage is itself deviant, perverse, and self-indulgent. These are incontrovertible, undeniable facts. Proof of that isn't necessary, however your inability and stubborn unwillingness to even make an attempt to disprove them only strengthens the assertion.Dodge noted, you havent posted any facts that support your failed claims. ZERO. VERY telling you didnt bring them up when i said we can talk about them and ill destory them.
Translation: you cant refute any of it
Facts: your strawman is still a proven failure
let us know when you have anything factual to back up your false claims and failed strawman . . . . ANYTHING factual . . . . .
I really only need one fact - the same one you keep dodging - the fact of how two grown adult men lustfully gorging themselves on one another, or sexually sating one another via any of their orifices, or romantically kissing or showing any other form of romantic affection is deviant, perverse, and grossly self-indulgent behavior. That, and the fact that two such men might seek to justify, rationalize, or otherwise seek approval of such behavior, let alone via the route of marriage is itself deviant, perverse, and self-indulgent. These are incontrovertible, undeniable facts. Proof of that isn't necessary, however your inability and stubborn unwillingness to even make an attempt to disprove them only strengthens the assertion.
Furthermore, allowing such deviance, perversion, and gross self-indulgence to spread in a society, whether by legal measures or indoctrination or other duplicitous methods is terminally damaging to society - as damaging as it is to the individuals who engage in such behaviors. Fact.
Sorry, but it just is.
"Mentally void?" :lamo I guess it was only a matter of time before you had to resort to flames to bolster your inability to otherwise refute even ONE fact I've put forth.those are not "facts" its your meaningless opinion and some of it is factually wrong :shrug: You couldnt get one educated honest and objective person to agree with you, not one. Nor could you provide one shred of factual proof. But pleae keep posting so any new readers know how mentally void you are on this specific topic.
good move trying a different lie instead of sticking with the previously destroyed one even though this failed strawman is just as failed.
also no need to apologize for you being factually wrong, most times when people are severely uneducated about a topic they simply dont know it, I dont blame you for that, it just is.
AGAIN, let know when you have anything factual to back up your false claims and failed strawman . . . . ANYTHING factual . . . . .
"Mentally void?" :lamo I guess it was only a matter of time before you had to resort to flames to bolster your inability to otherwise refute even ONE fact I've put forth.
Regardless, it's not opinion at all. It's fact. Two, or three, or more grown adult men lustfully gorging themselves on one another, or sexually sating one another via any of their orifices, or romantically kissing or showing any other form of romantic affection is deviant, perverse, and grossly self-indulgent behavior; moreover, it is a self-evident fact. It needs no "proof."
Additionally, your insistence that two, or three, or more grown adult men lustfully gorging themselves on one another, or sexually sating one another via any of their orifices, or romantically kissing or showing any other form of romantic affection is somehow not deviant, perverse, and grossly self-indulgent behavior - or that two, or three, or more grown adult men lustfully gorging themselves on one another, or sexually sating one another via any of their orifices, or romantically kissing or showing any other form of romantic affection is somehow "normal" behavior is an assertion you have yet to prove. Heck, you have yet to even dare to address it.
And I'll tell you why you can't/won't address it. Despite your denials, you know I'm right.
Did or did not the Canadian supreme court rule that Biblical speech opposing homosexual behavior, including in written form, is essentially a hate crime (see post 1105 above)?
:doh :doh Can you say "distinction without a difference??"No. The court ruled that speech promoting hate will not be tolerated as per our hate speech laws.
Ok - now you're calling me a liar. Prove it. Show me where I lied.translation: you still have zero FACTS to support your posted lies and opinions, zero
AGAIN, let us know when you have anything factual to back up your false claims and failed strawman . . . . ANYTHING factual . . . . .we'll be waiting
Yeah, that's why I removed it. The one looking foolish is you in trying some "gotcha" game. Removed it in less than one minute and it took you 6 minutes to try and write a gotcha post. Pathetic on your part.
the burden of proof is on you lolOk - now you're calling me a liar. Prove it. Show me where I lied.
While you're at it - demonstrate how what I posted is a strawman.
While you're at that - prove such behaviors as we're discussing are "normal."
Or, prove my assertions that such behaviors are deviant, perverse, and grossly self-indulgent are otherwise.
Prove it. Prove something, anything beyond your ability to embolden and copy/paste text.
LOL. This is a perfect example of a liberal in motion.
He does the screw up then turns right around and attacks somebody else to deflect attention from his screw up.
You would have, could have, should have left it at this, "Yeah, that's why I removed it." That part was taking responsibility for your actions, the rest sounds like Obama typically does.
Ok - now you're calling me a liar. Prove it. Show me where I lied.
While you're at it - demonstrate how what I posted is a strawman.
While you're at that - prove such behaviors as we're discussing are "normal."
Or, prove my assertions that such behaviors are deviant, perverse, and grossly self-indulgent are otherwise.
Prove it. Prove something, anything beyond your ability to embolden and copy/paste text.
I wouldn't consider you lying, but definitely incorrect. Several times you try to list things as facts that aren't. It isn't fact that homosexuality is a perversion, it is your opinion. For instance there are some that think that sex is only for procreation and anything else is a perversion, thus an opinion. There are some that think a man going down on a woman is a perversion and not normal. Hell being left-handed isn't normal but does that make it bad? What makes you think you get to dictate perversion as fact?
You're not stating fact your stating opinion.
No, no, no - you've ducked and dodged this issue the entire thread, making a rash of baseless, asinine assertions. You can't cop out on this - the burden of proof is just as heavy upon you as it is on me - more so since I've already lifted the burden off my shoulders with FACTS.the burden of proof is on you lol
translation: you still have zero FACTS to support your posted lies and opinions, zero
AGAIN, let us know when you have anything factual to back up your false claims and failed strawman . . . . ANYTHING factual . . . . .we'll be waiting
No, no, no - you've ducked and dodged this issue the entire thread, making a rash of baseless, asinine assertions. You can't cop out on this - the burden of proof is just as heavy upon you as it is on me - more so since I've already lifted the burden off my shoulders with FACTS.
FACTS you can't refute.
FACTS you won't refute because you don't like the answers.
Man up here. PROVE yourself. Prove how two, or three, or more grown adult men lustfully gorging themselves on one another, or sexually sating one another via any of their orifices, or romantically kissing or showing any other form of romantic affection is somehow not deviant, perverse, and grossly self-indulgent behavior - or prove that two, or three, or more grown adult men lustfully gorging themselves on one another, or sexually sating one another via any of their orifices, or romantically kissing or showing any other form of romantic affection is somehow "normal" behavior.
There. I've made it ridiculously easy for you. I've given you two choices - either prove your positive or prove your negative.
But please - do something, anything besides embarrass yourself further.
That two, or three, or more grown adult men lustfully gorging themselves on one another, or sexually sating one another via any of their orifices, or romantically kissing or showing any other form of romantic affection is somehow not deviant, perverse, and grossly self-indulgent behavior - or that two, or three, or more grown adult men lustfully gorging themselves on one another, or sexually sating one another via any of their orifices, or romantically kissing or showing any other form of romantic affection is somehow "normal" behavior is what needs now to be demonstrated.I wouldn't consider you lying, but definitely incorrect. Several times you try to list things as facts that aren't. It isn't fact that homosexuality is a perversion, it is your opinion. For instance there are some that think that sex is only for procreation and anything else is a perversion, thus an opinion. There are some that think a man going down on a woman is a perversion and not normal. Hell being left-handed isn't normal but does that make it bad? What makes you think you get to dictate perversion as fact?
You're not stating fact your stating opinion.
yep you nailed it, anytime somebody says " forcing me not only to accept it, but accept it as normal behavior" everybody honest just laughs
when people have no valid arguments they just make up failed strawmen
yep, thats what it factually is and thats what we all do when we read it, we laugh
let us know when you have any facts to back up your failed strawman, we'd love to read them
translation: you still got nothing
nope facts prove thats all your argument is and its a failed one but please continue to try and deflect it only exposes your failed strawman further.
your argument is a false made up one that you argue against to feel better about your failed potion. Classicstrawman.
let us know when you have something else, something relevant and factual.
1.) nice try but the facts disagree with you. try again
2.) deflection noted
3.) your meaningless opinion noted
4.) another failed deflection noted
again let us know when you have anything factual to back up your false claims and failed strawman . . . . ANYTHING factual . . . . .
1.) actually i did see previous posts, you dodged them, nothing changes that fact, keep trying to sell this lie though its very entertaining
2.) double down on your deflection noted
3.) another failed deflection
4.) a triple down on your deflection and lie. SOrry post history proves you wrong
5.) its cute you think this works on honest posters, it doesnt, it fails every time and its why we are laughing at your failed posts. Keep trying its hilarious.
again let us know when you have anything factual to back up your false claims and failed strawman . . . . ANYTHING factual . . . . .
wired another long post that changes nothing, you strawman is still a complete failure as pointed out by me and others with facts.
and NO nothign you said above is a fact, nobody is honest and educated on the topic is fooled by it, keep trying though we love it
the only fact is, your strawman is a complete failure. Post 1106 proves that among others.
again let us know when you have anything factual to back up your false claims and failed strawman . . . .ANYTHING factual. . . . .
translation: you still have ZERO facts to support your failed and destroyed strawman that acceptance is being forced. THanks, we all knew that already.
I notived you dodged post 1106 AGAIN
Thanks for playing but facts destroy your post again and you back peddling and trying to reframe doesnt fool anybody either, eventhough your reframe is also 100% false and a complete failure which is even more comical. AT best its meaningless opinin BUT please let me know if you want me to address your new failed argument because i will gladly destroy it too.
ANd i hope you are being honest with your "ill be here" statement, i actually hope you never leave we need the entertainment.
again let us know when you have anything factual to back up your false claims and failed strawman . . . ANYTHING factual . . . . .
Dodge noted, you havent posted any facts that support your failed claims. ZERO. VERY telling you didnt bring them up when i said we can talk about them and ill destory them.
Translation: you cant refute any of it
Facts: your strawman is still a proven failure
let us know when you have anything factual to back up your false claims and failed strawman . . . . ANYTHING factual . . . . .
those are not "facts" its your meaningless opinion and some of it is factually wrong :shrug: You couldnt get one educated honest and objective person to agree with you, not one. Nor could you provide one shred of factual proof. But pleae keep posting so any new readers know how mentally void you are on this specific topic.
good move trying a different lie instead of sticking with the previously destroyed one even though this failed strawman is just as failed.
also no need to apologize for you being factually wrong, most times when people are severely uneducated about a topic they simply dont know it, I dont blame you for that, it just is.
AGAIN, let know when you have anything factual to back up your false claims and failed strawman . . . . ANYTHING factual . . . . .
translation: you still have zero FACTS to support your posted lies and opinions, zero
AGAIN, let us know when you have anything factual to back up your false claims and failed strawman . . . . ANYTHING factual . . . . .we'll be waiting
the burden of proof is on you lol
translation: you still have zero FACTS to support your posted lies and opinions, zero
AGAIN, let us know when you have anything factual to back up your false claims and failed strawman . . . .ANYTHING factual . . . . .we'll be waiting
thats cute you really think this act is working? nobody is falling for it just laughing at the entertainment
the burden of proof is on you
translation: you still have zero FACTS to support your posted lies and opinions, zero
AGAIN, let us know when you have anything factual to back up your false claims and failed strawman . . . . ANYTHING factual . . . . .we'll be waiting
thats awesome you are so desperate to sell your lie and save face you wasted all that time, like i said VERY entertaining, i hope you never stop caue i wont i love it when people post lies and deny facts.
now back on topic
the burden of proof is on you
translation: you still have zero FACTS to support your posted lies and opinions, zero
AGAIN, let us know when you have anything factual to back up your false claims and failed strawman . . . . ANYTHING factual . . . . .we'll be waiting
Please show me what make's me a liberal. And be sure to use several examples and not just "gay marriage". The sad part is, we know your lean, you're just to afraid to disclose it.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah....
Where are the guts to stand up for your own assertions?
Where is the courage to assert what you believe?
Where is the spine to pop tall and explain why you believe what you do?
All you have is your inane little repetitious strawman accusation. An appeal to a doll, a child's plaything seems to be your only concrete retort.
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