ok so explain to me why republicans say schools teach sex to first graders

[bongsaway]

Cease stating falsehoods, that it's a non issue, as if it's not happening. There ARE teachers teaching 5 and 6 year old children deviant sexual lifestyles, hell even taking them to events to watch drag queens strip in front of them, having them tip the loons money.......sick, twisted people and even worse are those who turn a blind eye and permit it to occur out of politics.....a sick bunch weirdo's.

And of course you have proof of your statement?

 

[AGENT J]

GRRRRRR GROOMING!!
GRRRRRR 5 and 6 year olds!!
GRRRRRR Sick Twisted people!!
GRRRRRR CRT!!!!!!!
GRRRRRR BLINDERS!!!!
GRRRRRR Gay propaganda!!!!
GRRRRRR Deviant sexual lifetsyles!!
GRRRRRR Drage Queens
GRRRRRR bunch weirdos!!!
GRRRRRR Gay Agenda!!!!


watching these unhinged triggered vile bigoted meltdown posts is awesome! LMAO

 

[Captain Adverse]

two points

1. it is widely reported that CRT is something that is taught to people after they have attained a BA/BS degree. it is not something that was intended to be lesson plan material for those in public schools.

One would be correct in pointing out that "Critical Race Theory" as a "class" or college level "course material" is not being taught in public schools.

However, it's "bastardized materials" based on things like the "1619 Project" are. Along with all sorts of other Critical Theory based ideals. Like "Equity" instead of equality of opportunity, "Diversity" instead of most experienced/qualified for the job, and "Inclusion" instead of meeting actual skills and capabilities.

Now once upon a time pre-civil rights laws (which I also lived in), there were many examples of racism around the nation. As a child I experienced "separate but equal" even when it was supposedly illegal. But times change, and people change with the times.

Nowadays, I don't see any "systemic racism," and I find it amazing that so many peers complain about it...when we mostly live in Democrat controlled cities. Often controlled by Black mayors and city council members.

2. some of the minority kids in school have already felt the sting of the double standard that is bigotry and racism. many of them know about their parents' and grandparents' personal experiences under jim crow
our nation is not protecting those students from the remaining visages of bigotry and racism, because our government cannot control the actions of bigotted, racist individuals. but it has made great strides in eliminating it from our government entities and most business enterprises. it is not the same today as when i was shocked as a sheltered 9 year old boy who first saw "no colored allowed" and "whites only" signs at rest rooms and water fountains. or hearing my klukkker grandfather bark at the older black man who dared walk on our side of the downtown street "get where you belong nigger!"

That is some long statement of virtue signaling.

Now I recognize that there will always be individuals and groups of same who will hold all sorts of views; racist, sexist, etc. I also recognize that this is NOT limited to "white people." I have encountered Blacks, Asians, Hispanic, Native Americans, and of course White Americans who have exhibited a hatred for others of a different race. People are people, and some will have views based on their personal experiences.

But I do not buy into the idea of "institutional racism" holding minorities back. Once upon a time? Yes.

Today? NO!

IMO today it is more a mental state, inculcated over the years by various race grifters, socialist ideologues, and educators who've themselves been indoctrinated in CRT.

so, while things have gotten better, there is no genuine equality. there remains white privilege, just as there are those who hate seeing it dissipate; bet you can understand first-hand what i am posting about there

Nope. There are still individuals who are racist, as I describe above. But there is no "white privilege." Nothing has held me, nor any of my peers back, other than our own lack of effort.

...and it is not right that there are those able to prevent our schools from teaching about the injustice that was heaped upon people of color who are still resident

Yes, there are many of us "elders" who have experienced the Civil Rights Era, and the gradual transition to where we are today. We also remember how it was for our elders back then.

But today? Sorry, while there is still racism and small pockets of racist groups, there is literally nothing holding anyone back from achieving anything they seek. Nothing that is except their own fears, anger, lack of efforts, and sadly a growing sense of absolute entitlement. Entitlement which makes them think they are OWED a place, without any need for personal effort.

 

[American]

One would be correct in pointing out that "Critical Race Theory" as a "class" or college level "course material" is not being taught in public schools.

However, it's "bastardized materials" based on things like the "1619 Project" are. Along with all sorts of other Critical Theory based ideals. Like "Equity" instead of equality of opportunity, "Diversity" instead of most experienced/qualified for the job, and "Inclusion" instead of meeting actual skills and capabilities.

Now once upon a time pre-civil rights laws (which I also lived in), there were many examples of racism around the nation. As a child I experienced "separate but equal" even when it was supposedly illegal. But times change, and people change with the times.

Nowadays, I don't see any "systemic racism," and I find it amazing that so many peers complain about it...when we mostly live in Democrat controlled cities. Often controlled by Black mayors and city council members.



That is some long statement of virtue signaling.

Now I recognize that there will always be individuals and groups of same who will hold all sorts of views; racist, sexist, etc. I also recognize that this is NOT limited to "white people." I have encountered Blacks, Asians, Hispanic, Native Americans, and of course White Americans who have exhibited a hatred for others of a different race. People are people, and some will have views based on their personal experiences.

But I do not buy into the idea of "institutional racism" holding minorities back. Once upon a time? Yes.

Today? NO!

IMO today it is more a mental state, inculcated over the years by various race grifters, socialist ideologues, and educators who've themselves been indoctrinated in CRT.



Nope. There are still individuals who are racist, as I describe above. But there is no "white privilege." Nothing has held me, nor any of my peers back, other than our own lack of effort.


Yes, there are many of us "elders" who have experienced the Civil Rights Era, and the gradual transition to where we are today. We also remember how it was for our elders back then.

But today? Sorry, while there is still racism and small pockets of racist groups, there is literally nothing holding anyone back from achieving anything they seek. Nothing that is except their own fears, anger, lack of efforts, and sadly a growing sense of absolute entitlement. Entitlement which makes them think they are OWED a place, without any need for personal effort.

Opponents consider this "whitespainage". You're wasting your time, the people challenging you WANT CRT taught to little kids, even toddlers. Toddlers need to know that America is filled with oppressors. I'm sure they'd try to turn fetuses, but they're going to be terminated anyway, so why bother. And BTW, virtue signaling is....is virtuous.

 

[justabubba]

page 1 of 2 pages

your presentation came off as that of a white man comfortable living in a white mans' world:

One would be correct in pointing out that "Critical Race Theory" as a "class" or college level "course material" is not being taught in public schools.

However, it's "bastardized materials" based on things like the "1619 Project" are. Along with all sorts of other Critical Theory based ideals. Like "Equity" instead of equality of opportunity, "Diversity" instead of most experienced/qualified for the job, and "Inclusion" instead of meeting actual skills and capabilities.

let's schedule a 100 yard dash in a competition for deeds on your respective homes, your significant real property equity
a race between you and a black man
but with your accrued white privilege, you are entitled to start at the 40 yard line, 60 yards from the finish
the black guy, with no such privilege starts at the goal line 100 yards from the finish
the generational wealth you acquired by being a white guy is - on average - going to be substantially more than that available to the black contestant - on average - whose generational wealth will be nominal as centuries of white advantage have not been available to his family to enable their accrual of wealth
they were not legally able to learn to read and write until after the civil war, a further generational disparity
you gained an advantage your black opponent did not
yet you believe it would be a fair race to the finish, even tho you received the head start
it's not! because there is no equity to the black competitors who lack the advantages their generationally accrued equity bought for the white competitors

let's go next to "Diversity" instead of most experienced/qualified for the job. you post that as if the diverse person cannot be the most experienced/qualified applicant. in the federal EEOC program, the minority candidate who meets the qualification criteria for the announced position is to be the hiree. they might not be the MOST experienced or the BEST qualified of all applicants, but they will have been fully qualified to meet the job description criteria
to achieve diversity, the qualified minority applicant should gain the job. not most qualified/experienced person, unless it is also the minority candidate
the presumption is the white applicants did not have to face the adversity that the minority candidates did in order to become fully qualified
to fill the job
that is why fully qualified minority candidates are not passed over by the presence of better/best qualified white candidates. it is recognized the disadvantaged minority candidate was found able to fill the position, so they receive the job

now, let's look at ""Inclusion" instead of meeting actual skills and capabilities"
doesn't happen. not at the federal level, anyway
inclusion is including minorities who DO meet the position description and thus are found capable of performing the job
if the minority candidate is lacking, in that they do not meet the knowledge, skills, and abilities criteria imposed to qualify for the position, then their application is rejected. again, as it should be because they do not meet the established qualifications

 

[justabubba]

page 2 of 2 pages:

Now once upon a time pre-civil rights laws (which I also lived in), there were many examples of racism around the nation. As a child I experienced "separate but equal" even when it was supposedly illegal. But times change, and people change with the times.

Nowadays, I don't see any "systemic racism," and I find it amazing that so many peers complain about it...when we mostly live in Democrat controlled cities. Often controlled by Black mayors and city council members.

the gold fish does not recognize that he is swimming in water. it is just the environment in which he has always operated and thinks nothing of it
as a white guy, you are like that gold fish relative to its watery environment
that minority person who did not live swimming in the water of white privilege would disagree with your statement that their is no longer systemic racism
hell, you don't even want students to be taught about current systemic racism
i believe you know it exists, otherwise 1619 just be another number to you

That is some long statement of virtue signaling.

Now I recognize that there will always be individuals and groups of same who will hold all sorts of views; racist, sexist, etc. I also recognize that this is NOT limited to "white people." I have encountered Blacks, Asians, Hispanic, Native Americans, and of course White Americans who have exhibited a hatred for others of a different race. People are people, and some will have views based on their personal experiences.

But I do not buy into the idea of "institutional racism" holding minorities back. Once upon a time? Yes.

Today? NO!

IMO today it is more a mental state, inculcated over the years by various race grifters, socialist ideologues, and educators who've themselves been indoctrinated in CRT.



Nope. There are still individuals who are racist, as I describe above. But there is no "white privilege." Nothing has held me, nor any of my peers back, other than our own lack of effort.


Yes, there are many of us "elders" who have experienced the Civil Rights Era, and the gradual transition to where we are today. We also remember how it was for our elders back then.

But today? Sorry, while there is still racism and small pockets of racist groups, there is literally nothing holding anyone back from achieving anything they seek. Nothing that is except their own fears, anger, lack of efforts, and sadly a growing sense of absolute entitlement. Entitlement which makes them think they are OWED a place, without any need for personal effort.

again ^ spoken like a white guy who has spent a lifetime enjoying white privilege

 

[Captain Adverse]

your presentation came off as that of a white man comfortable living in a white mans' world:

Except I am not a "white man." Which I believe you've been aware of throughout my tenure in this Forum.

Since your response starts off with an (intentional?) misidentification, the rest of your response is irrelevant.

As are you from this point forward as far as I am concerned.

Tagline time.

 

[NatMorton]

You could have Googled that answer,

One chart shows why an official recession call isn't coming anytime soon

The NBER officially calls U.S. recessions, and data from Bank of America shows why this group won't be in a rush to declare the U.S. economy in recession.

finance.yahoo.com

Try answering the question (in your own words).

 

[Lisa]

Try answering the question (in your own words).

I never much liked economics. You?

 

[NatMorton]

I never much liked economics.

It shows.

 

[Lisa]

It shows.

Don't edit my posts.

 

[NatMorton]

Don't edit my posts.

I'll do whatever I like, thank you. I'm not obligated to quote everything you write. I quoted the relevant part for clarity, and I did not alter the meaning or context of what you said. So you can stop whining.

 

[redbeer]

And of course you have proof of your statement?

videos of teachers taking young children to a dragqueen strip show at DuckDuckGo

DuckDuckGo. Privacy, Simplified.

duckduckgo.com

 

[Lisa]

I'll do whatever I like, thank you. I'm not obligated to quote everything you write. I quoted the relevant part for clarity, and I did not alter the meaning or context of what you said. So you can stop whining.

You seem to be feeling very passive-aggressive tonight. Did something that I say offend you?

 

[NatMorton]

You seem to be feeling very passive-aggressive tonight. Did something that I say offend you?

I'm not being passive aggressive. I'm telling you what I think and saying it directly.

 

[justabubba]

Except I am not a "white man." Which I believe you've been aware of throughout my tenure in this Forum.

Since your response starts off with an (intentional?) misidentification, the rest of your response is irrelevant.

As are you from this point forward as far as I am concerned.

Tagline time.

something for you to ponder as you depart the debate:

 

[Hamish Howl]

I am so upset by republicans saying that first graders are learning about sex and dildos
first they say they learn about sex then they say they learn about gender so which is it
name a school where this is happening why dont parents just go to the school and
see what they are learning instead of just hearing about what they learn from the tv.

When you make a law like the dont say gay law people are learning what gay is
your bringing attention to it the opposite of what you want if you dont
want people to know what gay is then dont make a law about it it also causes
people to think that being gay is bad because a law is made against it so
it causes more bullying.

Is the argument that teachers are talking about sex or is that kids are talking about sex and being gay?
what if the kid is already gay why do people assume anyone taught them to be like that?
why do people talk as if trans people are breaking into schools and chasing people?
if your against people breaking into schools what about mass shooters?

But so whats the argument is this about trans people brain washing people
and if they are how is this about teachers is the teacher trans?

Calling every gay person a groomer is messed up being against these laws
doesnt mean that your a groomer we all agree thats bad the point is
they make these laws to discriminate against people.

This isnt about if a teacher talks about sex a kid could be punished if he said he has 2 dads for example.

Is their a epidemic of trans people breaking into schools or is it teachers that are already in the school?

What is the argument is this about trans people is this about gay people is this about teachers what is this about?

I heard someone tell me that gays and trans people have abortions i said how do they get pregnant?
he said gays and trans are groomers he just lumps everything together in one sentence to smear
the people that he doesnt like.

This is easily explained.

The MAGA freaks lie. They lie all the time. This is just another lie.

 

[Captain Adverse]

Opponents consider this "whitespainage"...

You've hit the nail on the head.

A self-identified White male is "whitesplaining" to a Black man what it is to be Black in America. Typical when they find out their target is a Black American who does not follow the "script" to presume they have a "hall pass" from the activists (I'm being polite) in our community to treat one as a "race traitor." The hypocrisy is laughable

I posted the movie "Uncle Tom" in the Forum. Here is the link for anyone else interested in a different take on the Black Community:

 

[American]

page 1 of 2 pages

your presentation came off as that of a white man comfortable living in a white mans' world:

let's schedule a 100 yard dash in a competition for deeds on your respective homes, your significant real property equity
a race between you and a black man
but with your accrued white privilege, you are entitled to start at the 40 yard line, 60 yards from the finish
the black guy, with no such privilege starts at the goal line 100 yards from the finish
the generational wealth you acquired by being a white guy is - on average - going to be substantially more than that available to the black contestant - on average - whose generational wealth will be nominal as centuries of white advantage have not been available to his family to enable their accrual of wealth
they were not legally able to learn to read and write until after the civil war, a further generational disparity
you gained an advantage your black opponent did not
yet you believe it would be a fair race to the finish, even tho you received the head start
it's not! because there is no equity to the black competitors who lack the advantages their generationally accrued equity bought for the white competitors

let's go next to "Diversity" instead of most experienced/qualified for the job. you post that as if the diverse person cannot be the most experienced/qualified applicant. in the federal EEOC program, the minority candidate who meets the qualification criteria for the announced position is to be the hiree. they might not be the MOST experienced or the BEST qualified of all applicants, but they will have been fully qualified to meet the job description criteria
to achieve diversity, the qualified minority applicant should gain the job. not most qualified/experienced person, unless it is also the minority candidate
the presumption is the white applicants did not have to face the adversity that the minority candidates did in order to become fully qualified
to fill the job
that is why fully qualified minority candidates are not passed over by the presence of better/best qualified white candidates. it is recognized the disadvantaged minority candidate was found able to fill the position, so they receive the job

now, let's look at ""Inclusion" instead of meeting actual skills and capabilities"
doesn't happen. not at the federal level, anyway
inclusion is including minorities who DO meet the position description and thus are found capable of performing the job
if the minority candidate is lacking, in that they do not meet the knowledge, skills, and abilities criteria imposed to qualify for the position, then their application is rejected. again, as it should be because they do not meet the established qualifications

My parents immigrated to the US with $500 in debt. So they started from 100 yards from the finish. In fact my father worked for a black man in his first job. So did many other immigrants, and btw he couldn't speak English. He did have a great work ethic, so there's that.

 

[bongsaway]

videos of teachers taking young children to a dragqueen strip show at DuckDuckGo

DuckDuckGo. Privacy, Simplified.

duckduckgo.com

How do you get this is teaching kids about sex in school? You think the kid on stage collecting money has any idea of what he's doing beside just having fun?

 

[redbeer]

How do you get this is teaching kids about sex in school? You think the kid on stage collecting money has any idea of what he's doing beside just having fun?

So far, in this thread I have posted articles proving some teachers are teaching 5 and 6 year old children about sex, deviant sex, and masturbation.....then showed articles with videos of teachers taking young children for strip shows with drag queens. Your response....."they're having fun".

There's no wonder why this country is screwed.

 

[fmw]

And when you can show me where I said anything close to that, I'll agree with you. How can you even begin to believe LGBTQ is being taught in first or second grade? Because some kid whose parents hate queers and hears it all the time comes home from school and tells mom and pop the teacher is crossdressing and waving their buttocks around for all to see?

I can't show you that because we don't do things like that out here in the country. You can find the the details on TV and on the internet. There are many kids and parents expressing the problem. Home schooling has increased almost 100% in some large cities.

 

[bongsaway]

So far, in this thread I have posted articles proving some teachers are teaching 5 and 6 year old children about sex, deviant sex, and masturbation.....then showed articles with videos of teachers taking young children for strip shows with drag queens. Your response....."they're having fun".

There's no wonder why this country is screwed.

When will folks like you finally realize that when it comes to sex, people are going to do what they want and no amount of laws by people like you will stop it. It's amazing to me why republicans/conservatives are so fascinated about suppressing a natural instinct. I refuse to allow you to dictate your morals onto me.

 

[bongsaway]

I can't show you that because we don't do things like that out here in the country. You can find the the details on TV and on the internet. There are many kids and parents expressing the problem. Home schooling has increased almost 100% in some large cities.

Out there in 'the country', do kids see animals having sex? And where do you get your home schooling info, got a link?

 

[j brown's body]

And of course you have proof of your statement?

Reminds me of the old Blood Libel claim they used to make against Jews.