I love how this triggers the usualy suspects again.
I dont know what people THINK or MAKE up what white privileged is bt that wont stop it from existing in reality.
Its not an excuse, its not an answer to all things wrong, it doesn't mean there arent any successful non whites, it doesnt mean that all whites have it awesome, it doesnt mean people should feel guilty. Those are retarded things people say from both sides that has ZERO impact on the reality it exists. :shrug:
like i said early
take 100 white men and 100 black men. Make them identical in every way . . no difference and let them grow p in this country.
ON AVERAGE the white men will fair better based on society structure perceptions stereotypes and prejudice that unfortunately still lingers from the past. This is just basic common sense.
Does that mean none of the blacks will succeed? of course not
does that mean all of the whites will succeed? of course not
its just realty the avg of the whites will be better.
No honest conversation can be had without acknowledging that and leaving the retarded straw man claims at the door. It simply exists, that all
1.) LMAO of course it is, its pure reality in this country and denying it is simply intellectually dishonest.
in this country if you take 100 white men and 100 black men and make them identical in every way but race . . money, family . . etc etc identical . .one avg whites will have it easier. Thats plain reality. Does that mean that every white person gets magical treatment and every black person gets nothing . . of course not, that would also be nonsense. But the reality is on avg the white group will fair better individually and over all. Ig a person cant see that, thats their own ignorance of reality to over come.
2.) Its "existence" is not an argument nor is acknowledging it a flaw in anyway. Now if you would like to discuss the depths of it and how it actually impacts things and etc etc of course that is debatable but not its existence
3.) where did i apply it to every white person? see, very quickly the only flaws exposed are your false assumptions about what it is, just like i said thats just topical ignorance. Please dont make stuff up ecause it will make it harder for you to grasp reality of this topic
4.) there actually nothing racist about acknowledging the fact it exists at all, it intellectual honesty is what it is
5.) again the only thing flawed and you just proved it is your made up definitions of what you claim doesn't exist. I would agree what you seem to be saying does not exist, but white privileged does,
6.) yes it is i agree 100% and that still doesnt change the fact that white privileged exists. I dont know what you falsely think it is but that is your issue not mine. sorry :shrug:
Yeah, something like that. It's been referred to as the "social contract" but I have never seen this contract in writing. Stuff like, responsibility, obedience to law, family values, work ethic, etc. All that 'white people' stuff. :roll:
Why wasn't Black Chester offered that deal?
Rioting over sports victories is absolutely moronic.White people never riot..
Oh, wait!
...unless they win the SuperBowl.
Then we just rename rioting to "overly exuberant celebration" :lol:
Other factors are not relevant to majority advantage (white privelege) being a factor. To suggest so is absurd.
Also, unfortunately for you, race is related to what culture/family you will be born into. How can you not know these obvious things?
The field of mathematics deals in "proven facts". Science as related to sociological factors, does not deal in "proven facts". You need understand that to move on.
This says father's education level is the strongest (office for national statistics)
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/sep/23/fathers-education-child-success-school
So much for your "proof"
Words don't even describe how absurd this is.
All of which is influenced in part by minority disadvantage. So much for you isolating the real issues to "disprove" majority advantage.
The only thing that went out the window are your seemingly ignorant arguments. You still appear to know nothing of the actual term, keep up the good fight, your advantage can't overcome your defects, that's quite clear.
When white students at the Keene State College Pumpkin Festival threw rocks, glass, bottles, and even skateboards at police, set multiple fires, and forced police to respond with riot gear, rubber bullets, and tear gas, they were never declared “thugs.” When white people riot because their baseball team won, no one throws around the word “thugs.” But when black people respond to physical violence with protests against inanimate objects, that word is all you hear.
...White Riots explores the biased language so often employed by media to describe black Americans exercising their first amendment rights. And contrasts it with the kiddie-gloves treatment of everything from violent students to biker gang shootouts.
...take the word, “gang.” Black people wearing the blue of their sorority, Zeta Phi Beta, were reported to be in a gang. Groups of white men can wear matching jackets and murder nine people and injure 18 more in broad daylight, and the media will still describe them as a “social club.”
What Do You Call White Rioters? Anything But Thugs | HuffPost
lol...watch any show on court TV, count the number of Black judges, prosecutors and defense attorneys. Then get back to me.
Check out any list of fortune 500 CEO's and VP's. Count the number of people who are not white. Then get back to me.
Stop at a bar on the side of the road in, let's say, Kansas. Count the number of white people, Asians and Blacks. Then get back to me.
White privilege is not being called a thug, even when you are being a thug.
Todd Kohlhepp, an admitted Serial Killer, established a successful Real Estate Business in South Carolina. Upon discovery last year of a chained woman inside a storage container on Todd's 95 acre estate, Todd admitted to repeatedly sexually abusing the woman and to the murder of multiple people over a period of more than ten years.
Did 'White Privilege" help Todd become a successful Real Estate Broker and elude arrest for so many years? Can you identify a similar case involving a Black Person?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Kohlhepp
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White people never riot..
Oh, wait!
...unless they win the SuperBowl.
Then we just rename rioting to "overly exuberant celebration" :lol:
1.)White privilege only exists in comparison. It's not so much that whites 'have privileges', but all other ethnic groups have disadvantages.
2.) In a true equitable society, those disadvantages would exist. That is why you have a perception that 'white privilege does not exist'. If you have two people starting off at the same level , theoretically, they should have equal opportunity to improve themselves. The white privilege comes in effect where the non-white has to work much harder to get half the result.
i see you can't refute actual facts
nope my arguments are solid based on facts.
If you pull your head out for a sec, you'll see multiple places throughout the two threads you and I have been...chatting...where I said guilt need not be a part of this whatsoever. Sorry that doesn't fit your copy and paste rhetoric, but it is what it is.
I have also posted my proof re: the existence of privilege as demonstrated by the disparity statistics readily available for anyone with an internet account and a brain.
The one thing I've suddenly realized is that, while you have spouted off incessantly across two threads for a couple days now, I'm not sure you've posted a single thing to support any of your claims. Are we supposed to accept that your rhetoric trumps statistics? Do you actually have a point, or are you here just to blabber and insult and generally make a nuisance of yourself? You've said a whole lot without really saying anything, so I thought I'd check.
Stop being so damn right and logical, will you? You're gonna trigger someone...........plus, you're being racist.
Yup, I felt about as dumb saying that as I thought I would.
You are right, of course.
Ok, I acknowledge I have "white privilege". Now what?
What am I supposed to do with that little piece of knowledge?
Am I supposed to be ashamed? Am I supposed to just shrug and move on with my life like I always have, only slightly more 'enlightened'? Something else?
White privilege only exists in comparison. It's not so much that whites 'have privileges', but all other ethnic groups have disadvantages. In a true equitable society, those disadvantages would exist. That is why you have a perception that 'white privilege does not exist'. If you have two people starting off at the same level , theoretically, they should have equal opportunity to improve themselves. The white privilege comes in effect where the non-white has to work much harder to get half the result.
White privilege is not being called a thug, even when you are being a thug.
Upon further investigation, Chester rejected a plea deal that would have probably resulted in Life Sentences instead of the Death Penalty. I concede your point that White Privilege probably did not factor into their sentence disparity in any major way. I think Todd has an IQ edge over Chester.
By "similar case" do you mean black serial killers who are also real estate agents?
Or are you focused on how long the serial killer evaded arrest? If so, I'm thinking of Chester Turner, the LA "Southside Killer," who, despite being arrested for other crimes several times, wasn't connected to the killings for seven years and until a sample of his DNA was obtained.
And then there is Coral Eugene Watts, who killed women from Michigan to Texas from 1974 until 1982. (He was a schizophrenic, and somebody I knew taught him in prison and said that when he was one his meds, he was a nice person.) Carl Eugene Watts | Murderpedia, the encyclopedia of murderers
I don't know that it's so much race as it is occupation that matters here. And killing pattern. Some serial killers are spree killers.
then why say I am privileged when I am not. the only reason to try an assign that to someone is a poor attempt at blame. that I am somehow more special because of the color of my skin.
that is the same rhetoric that white militants use. not a good logic road to go down.
I have proved that culture has more to do with those statistics than does the color of their skin.
I have posted plenty to support my claims the fact you ignore them is not my issue. you on the other hand have not.
yes you have spouted a bunch of rhetoric for the past couple of days.
you might try to actual read something and stop projecting SJ rhetoric at people.
facts are facts. cultural attitude has more of an impact than skin color.
more so family conditions have more of an impact than skin color.
the facts don't lie.
also these things don't apply to just blacks it applies to all colors of skin.
you want to close the gap fix the family unit first. skin color won't fix that.
"Thug" not not part of my normal vocabulary. The only person I recall calling a thug in recent years is Vladimir Putin. I've called him a thug many times. That's how I view him.White privilege is not being called a thug, even when you are being a thug.
Yes.
I would add, that's what ALL privilege is. The definition:
priv·i·lege
/ˈpriv(ə)lij/
noun
noun: privilege; plural noun: privileges
1. a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group of people.
It's not just about rights, but also immunities and advantages. So the fact that disparity exists at all points to immunities and advantages for those in the non-marginalized demographic. This is pretty basic.
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