• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Officer Byrd violated her civil rights (3 Viewers)

Buster Keaton said:
I have always been a supporter of civil rights.
And the point that I am making is that the Radical Left has a credibility gap on civil rights
For them it depends upon the race of the victim.
Click to expand...
Babbit's behavior got her killed. Her race was not a factor. You know that. Everyone knows that.

You're arguing that Babitt had a civil right to vandalize, break and enter, and ignore LE orders.

As others have pointed out, it is amazing that more rioters on 1/6 didn't end up just like Babbit.
 
Stealers Wheel said:
Babbit's behavior got her killed. Her race was not a factor. You know that. Everyone knows that.

You're arguing that Babitt had a civil right to vandalize, break and enter, and ignore LE orders.

As others have pointed out, it is amazing that more rioters on 1/6 didn't end up just like Babbit.
Click to expand...
no
I am saying that Officer Byrd violated her 4th Amendment right against excessive force
We both know that if Byrd was a White LEO and that if Babbitt was a Black woman, that this would be a huge racial issue, a civil rights issue and a political issue.
The point is that the Radical Left doesn't accept that everyone has the same civil rights.
 
Buster Keaton said:
no
I am saying that Officer Byrd violated her 4th Amendment right against excessive force
We both know that if Byrd was a White LEO and that if Babbitt was a Black woman, that this would be a huge racial issue, a civil rights issue and a political issue.
The point is that the Radical Left doesn't accept that everyone has the same civil rights.
Click to expand...
And I am saying Byrd's force was not excessive. Babbit, by her violent behavior, posed a threat. Byrd neutralized the threat.

You might have an argument if, say, Byrd had kneeled on Babbit's throat for nine minutes.
 
Buster Keaton said:
OK
if you don't accept that everyone has civil rights, then you don't actually believe in civil rights
Click to expand...
That is a dopey statement. If a jury finds that her civil rights were violated then so be it. Do stupid, illegal things win stupid prizes. Seems YOU are the one that wants selective civil rights.
 
Jagged said:
An angry mob of people were trying to break into the area where Byrd was in. He says he felt his life was in danger. Prove that wasn't a reasonable fear.
Click to expand...
Jagged said:
He says he felt his life was in danger.
Click to expand...
she was less than halfway thru the door/window, there were tables and chairs on his side of the door blocking further entrance. he could have used several methods to disable her crossing that barrier short of shooting her.

He took the easy, and deadly, way to stop her.

unnecessarily.
 
Jagged said:
If someone has a reasonable fear of being killed or being a victim great bodily harm, the use of lethal force is legally permitted to prevent that.
Click to expand...
as a LAST resort.

The situation hadn't reached that point.
 
WilHaftaWaite said:
she was less than halfway thru the door/window, there were tables and chairs on his side of the door blocking further entrance. he could have used several methods to disable her crossing that barrier short of shooting her.

He took the easy, and deadly, way to stop her.

unnecessarily.
Click to expand...
That's your opinion. That's not evidence his fear was unreasonable. He wasn't just in fear from her, but from an angry mob, breaking through the doors, windows & barricade. It's reasonable to fear for one's life if they were to break through. It's reasonable to resort to lethal force to keep them out.
 
I am guessing the beating of the cops on Jan. 6 was perfectly acceptable though? :rolleyes:
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 4 (members: 0, guests: 4)
Back
Top Bottom