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Of Course it was an Attempted Coup

It regularly takes a decade for Democrats to clean up GOP messes. Once gops take over all levers of our Xtry in 2025, younger generations are screwed.
 
Eriech said:
So Putin is in a weaker position now that Biden lives at 1600 than when Trump was in office?
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Well America is in a stronger position now that Biden is President, that's for sure. There was a reason Putin backed Trump and his commie loving Cult.
 
calamity said:
Is COVID still over, KLATTU?
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yep-it's been downgraded to a very mild flu.Or as many call it . The kung flu.

Over 160 million Americans are fully vaccinated, another 100 million already had and recovered from the infection, and there are tens of millions of kids who generally don’t get it or spread it. It’s over. I

It's over for the normals. Not the 'follow the science' ( smirk ) knownothing Karens ,though!. Keep wearing those masks!!!The vaccines don't work!!!!
LAFFRIOT
 
KLATTU said:
yep-it's been downgraded to a very mild flu.Or as many call it . The kung flu.

Over 160 million Americans are fully vaccinated, another 100 million already had and recovered from the infection, and there are tens of millions of kids who generally don’t get it or spread it. It’s over. I

It's over for the normals. Not the 'follow the science' ( smirk ) knownothing Karens ,though!. Keep wearing those masks!!!The vaccines don't work!!!!
LAFFRIOT
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That's it. Double on down on writing stupid posts. I know I could count on you to come through.
 
Linuxcooldude said:
U.S. Intelligence said Saddam had weapons of mass distruction as a reason for removing him from power.
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You got that wrong. American intelligence never said that. The Bush administration said that.

George John Tenet, Bush's CIA director, offered that assessment for political reasons. He was forced to resign in July 2004.

So, in your mind, it was okay for President Trump to reject American intelligence and accept Putin's word.

I'm curious. Where are you from?
 
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Sandy Shanks said:
You got that wrong. American intelligence never said that. The Bush administration said that.

George John Tenet, Bush's CIA director, offered that assessment for political reasons. He was forced to resign in July 2004.

So, in your mind, it was okay for President Trump to reject American intelligence and accept Putin's word.

I'm curious. Where are you from?
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Um, I would definitely consider a CIA Director to be part of American Intelligence. Like Central "INTELLIGENCE" Agency, it's right in the name itself.
 
Linuxcooldude said:
Um, I would definitely consider a CIA Director to be part of American Intelligence. Like Central "INTELLIGENCE" Agency, it's right in the name itself.
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You don't understand. Tenet was a politician, not an intelligence expert. He said that because the Bush administration wanted him to say that. It did not come from intelligence people. It was one of the reasons he was forced to resign.

Sandy Shanks said:
So, in your mind, it was okay for President Trump to reject American intelligence and accept Putin's word.
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Hm-m-m, that statement went unchallenged.
 
Sandy Shanks said:
You don't understand. Tenet was a politician, not an intelligence expert. He said that because the Bush administration wanted him to say that. It did not come from intelligence people. It was one of the reasons he was forced to resign.


Hm-m-m, that statement went unchallenged.
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The Intelligence community is not just the CIA, but other organizations such as the National Intelligence Council. Which is also broken down by a wide range of experts in different organizations:

NIC’s National Intelligence Officers — drawn from government, academia, and the private sector—are the Intelligence Community’s senior experts on a range of regional and functional issues.
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Not only that but even the British intelligence MI6 were saying similar things.

So just to hand it off to just Tenet as some Bush lackey is wrong. Unless you are going into a whole conspiracy theory they colluded together.

In October of 2002 the National Intelligence Council, the highest analytical body in the U.S. intelligence community, issued a classified National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq's WMD, representing the consensus of the intelligence community.
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From National Intelligence Council:

A declassified version of the 2002 NIE was released to the public in July of last year. Its principal conclusions:


  • "Iraq has continued its weapons of mass destruction (WMD) programs in defiance of UN resolutions and restrictions. Baghdad has chemical and biological weapons as well as missiles with ranges in excess of UN restrictions; if left unchecked, it probably will have a nuclear weapon during this decade." (The classified version of the NIE gave an estimate of five to seven years.)
  • "Since inspections ended in 1998, Iraq has maintained its chemical weapons effort, energized its missile program, and invested more heavily in biological weapons; most analysts assess [that] Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program."
  • "If Baghdad acquires sufficient weapons-grade fissile material from abroad, it could make a nuclear weapon within a year ... Without such material from abroad, Iraq probably would not be able to make a weapon until the last half of the decade."
  • "Baghdad has begun renewed production of chemical warfare agents, probably including mustard, sarin, cyclosarin, and VX ... Saddam probably has stocked a few hundred metric tons of CW agents."
  • "All key aspects—R&D, production, and weaponization—of Iraq's offensive BW [biological warfare] program are active and most elements are larger and more advanced than they were before the Gulf war ... Baghdad has established a large-scale, redundant, and concealed BW agent production capability, which includes mobile facilities; these facilities can evade detection, are highly survivable, and can exceed the production rates Iraq had prior to the Gulf war."




Spies, Lies, and Weapons: What Went Wrong

How could we have been so far off in our estimates of Saddam Hussein's weapons programs? A leading Iraq expert and intelligence analyst in the Clinton Administration—whose book The Threatening Storm proved deeply influential in the run-up to the war—gives a detailed account of how and why we erred
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More evidence of Trump's failed coup (or was it a Putsch?) comes to light every day.

www.cnn.com

The full picture of Trump's attempted coup is only starting to emerge

President Donald Trump -- back in the final days of his presidency -- didn't exactly make a secret of his effort to overturn the election he'd just lost and so it's very easy to get tired of thinking about it, now that he's out of office and his official powers have been clipped.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com
 
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