Obama's Exit Interview : I Could've Won Again...

[radcen]

I think its possible he would have won again, but it is fairly pompous of him to make such a claim. I think he would have likely gotten more black support, but the counties in Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin switched to Trump because of Obama so its likely he would have help those places that Hillary lost. But yes, he is a far superior candidate to Hillary and his claim that he would have won is more a swipe at her than at Trump.

I'm sure Obama didn't intend it that way, but that is a good point and probably correct.

 

[trouble13]

Obama won a bigger percentage of the "American Voter" than Trump did. Hell even Romney won a bigger percentage of the American voters than Trump did. Trump didn't win because a majority of Americans wanted him, he won because he was lucky enough to be running against Hillary.

Teump would of beaten obama too

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[Socrates1]

Obama's exit interview: I could've won again

" Arguing that Americans still subscribe to his vision of progressive change, President Barack Obama asserted in an interview recently he could have succeeded in this year's election if he was eligible to run.

"I am confident in this vision because I'm confident that if I had run again and articulated it, I think I could've mobilized a majority of the American people to rally behind it," Obama told his former senior adviser David Axelrod in an interview for the "The Axe Files" podcast, produced by the University of Chicago Institute of Politics and CNN."

:roll:
Honestly, how deluded is Obama ? First, lets count the number of seats the Democrats have lost since 2010. As of November 4th, the Democrats have lost 14 Senate seats, 69 House seats. 12 Governorships and 910 State Legislator seats on the Presidency
Republicans are now in control of a record 67 (68 percent) of the 98 partisan state legislative chambers in the nation and as of As of Nov. 7, 2016, there are just 823 Democratic state senators out of a total of 1,972 seats nationwide. Republicans have increased their ranks to 1,089.

Likewise, of the 5,411 state House seats, there are now 3,029 Republicans compared to 2,340 Democrats – a mirror image of both parties’ status in 2009.
http://www.ncsl.org/research/about-state-legislatures/partisan-composition.aspx

Obama was pretty clear when he stated that his policies were on the ballot both in 2014 and this election cycle but for some reason he still thinks he would prevailed.

If that ever were true then surely WE ALL would lose HOPE ! :lol:

 

[JackA]

Razor thin ? Lol ! Trump flipped 6 States and beat a Candidate that out spent him by 200 million dollars and a candidate that had the MSM working as a arm of her campaign.

Trump won 30 States to Clintons 20, and won 2623 Counties to Clintons 489.

Obama's approval ratings didn't help Hillary who ran on extending Obama's policies and agenda.

Obama said his policies and legacy was on the ballot and look who won. Looks like " approval ratings " dont mean ****

Obviously, Obama's approval rating didn't help Hillary. Hers was in the 30's. The point is his rating would have helped him.

Trump won by the skin of his teeth. Aside from losing the national vote by an embarrassing margin and his EC victory being the tenth closest (of 46), he was elected because he carried three blue states, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, by a "razor thin" margin of one percent. The nearly 3 million national vote loss will be forever thrown in his face, and is a drag on his mandate he won't be able to shake.

 

[Lovebug]

Prez Obama puzzles me. No, not just Obama, but all that back and forth about election fraud, the Russian influence and Hillary's merits, all for nothing.
If what he says is true, than the election fraud claims are lies (and Stein is a paranoid bitch), we had no meddling by foreign powers, and Hillary is a dud, just like most of us thought she is.
Either that, or the man is full of you know what. Many of us wondered if he is a narcissist. Makes you wonder if we were right, doesn't it?
What worries me is that the man is vindictive, and he is still in office.

 

[radcen]

Side note: Yes, Obama would have beaten Trump, regardless what the easily-led Trumpbots would like to think.

However, Obama stating so was undignified. Not as undignified as Trump has been since Day One, but undignified nonetheless.

 

[AliHajiSheik]

I fear that we won't have an opportunity to miss Mr. Obama because he is never going away.

 

[trouble13]

Now they are all "BUT BUT BUT the data was right".....who cares, the story that their product sold was wrong, and if the story the "journalists" were selling was not what the polls actually said and they said nothing then they are guilty of lying just as much as if they had said the words themselves.

These assholes are all clintonesque, like Slick Willie trying to argue that he is fine because we are too stupid to know what "is" means.

Bingo, the media bent the truth to fit their agenda. They wanted clinton to win and used the interuptations of data that favored her the most. They weighted the results to give her an edge that she never had but, that they wanted her to have. Notice too they kept most of their numbers within the margin of error as a fall back position in case it blew up in their faces. Anyone with common sens knew this election could go either way.

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[Fenton]

Trump won by the skin of his teeth. Aside from losing the national vote by an embarrassing margin and his EC victory being the tenth closest (of 46), he was elected because he carried three blue states, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, by a "razor thin" margin of one percent. The 3 million national vote loss will be forever thrown in his face, and is a drag on his mandate he won't be able to shake.

Trump didn't " LOSE " anything, and Hillary certainly didn't WIN anything.

The WINNER is picking his cabinet members and making life miserable for liberals like yourself.

You know whats embarrasing ? The fact that SO many people including many in the media thought she was guaranteed to win.
She was so sure she was going to win she was running adds in Texas right before the election, she was trying to influence down ballot races instead of campaigning in States Trump wound up flipping.

THATS embarssing....and hillarious. Couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of people, amiright ??

You people need to get it through your head that the popular is irrelevent.
Candidates dont camapign based on a popular vote result, the camapign on our 200 year old EC process.

 

[Ikari]

Obama's exit interview: I could've won again

" Arguing that Americans still subscribe to his vision of progressive change, President Barack Obama asserted in an interview recently he could have succeeded in this year's election if he was eligible to run.

"I am confident in this vision because I'm confident that if I had run again and articulated it, I think I could've mobilized a majority of the American people to rally behind it," Obama told his former senior adviser David Axelrod in an interview for the "The Axe Files" podcast, produced by the University of Chicago Institute of Politics and CNN."

:roll:
Honestly, how deluded is Obama ? First, lets count the number of seats the Democrats have lost since 2010. As of November 4th, the Democrats have lost 14 Senate seats, 69 House seats. 12 Governorships and 910 State Legislator seats on the Presidency
Republicans are now in control of a record 67 (68 percent) of the 98 partisan state legislative chambers in the nation and as of As of Nov. 7, 2016, there are just 823 Democratic state senators out of a total of 1,972 seats nationwide. Republicans have increased their ranks to 1,089.

Likewise, of the 5,411 state House seats, there are now 3,029 Republicans compared to 2,340 Democrats – a mirror image of both parties’ status in 2009.
http://www.ncsl.org/research/about-state-legislatures/partisan-composition.aspx

Obama was pretty clear when he stated that his policies were on the ballot both in 2014 and this election cycle but for some reason he still thinks he would prevailed.

I don't think he was deluded in that statement. If he could have run again, and it was Obama v Trump, I really do think he would have won again. I mean, I would have not voted for him for a third time, but I don't think he could have lost to Trump. Only Hillary could lose to Trump.

 

[trouble13]

You should be embaresed by your vote. I have yet to personally meet anyone who will admit, in the flesh, to have voted for the man. Then again, most my friends are educated, and do not fly the Confederate flag.

The pre-election shaming tactic backfired once already, what makes you think the post-election shaming will yield different results?

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[JackA]

Trump didn't " LOSE " anything, and Hillary certainly didn't WIN anything.

The WINNER is picking his cabinet members and making life miserable for liberals like yourself.

You know whats embarrasing ? The fact that SO many people including many in the media thought she was guaranteed to win.
She was so sure she was going to win she was running adds in Texas right before the election, she was trying to influence down ballot races instead of campaigning in States Trump wound up flipping.

THATS embarssing....and hillarious. Couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of people, amiright ??

You people need to get it through your head that the popular is irrelevent.
Candidates dont camapign based on a popular vote result, the camapign on our 200 year old EC process.

I see. He didn't lose the nonexistent popular vote but he won the nonexistent county vote, as you pointed out. I love the county vote comparison Trumpites have discovered. It puts Los Angeles County with a population in excess of ten million on a par with counties having populations of less than one thousand, e.g., Loving County, Texas, which has a population of barely one hundred. The national vote of citizens has always been relevant. It is why it is widely publicized every election. It is why George Bush felt vindicated when he won it the second time around. It is why Republicans are scurrying like crazy to downplay it this time.

What you mean is that the popular vote is not determinative. It is relevant, however, because the election of a President is seen as "the peoples' choice', as it is often called. It is viewed as a national election as compared to an election by an aggregate of states. This time Hillary was the people's choice.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Considering Hillary significantly lagged in the minority vote comparative to Obama, and that pretty much was one of the largest difference on the Democrats end that helped lead to their defeat compared to the previous two elections, I'd say there's a good chance that if Obama had ran against Trump he would've won. All of which is irrelevant, because he couldn't.

I am not so sure. Obama won in 2008 based on charisma and the novelty of being the first African American nominee for president. he won in 2012 based mostly on the African American vote and the fact that the republicans nominated yet another geriatric "It's my turn" establishment candidate that did not appeal to the core conservative base. Perhaps if Obama had not gone completely off the rails after he was safely re-elected in regards to immigration, Iran, and other issues, he might have stood a chance if a third run was legal. at this point, I don't think he has any real political capital left. He would be depending primarily on getting out the African American vote for a third time.

 

[MAGAnificent]

"He has no ground game. There's no way he can win"

What the left failed to catch onto was that he did have a ground game, it was merely unconventional. Instead of knocking on doors and smooching with big donors, his ground game was drawing crowds of 10,000 to 30,000 to rallies at football stadiums and other large venues across the nation on a consistent basis. He tapped into a populist movement that establishment policians in both parties failed to take seriously.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Trump didn't " LOSE " anything, and Hillary certainly didn't WIN anything.

The WINNER is picking his cabinet members and making life miserable for liberals like yourself.

You know whats embarrasing ? The fact that SO many people including many in the media thought she was guaranteed to win.
She was so sure she was going to win she was running adds in Texas right before the election, she was trying to influence down ballot races instead of campaigning in States Trump wound up flipping.

THATS embarssing....and hillarious. Couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of people, amiright ??

You people need to get it through your head that the popular is irrelevent.
Candidates dont camapign based on a popular vote result, the camapign on our 200 year old EC process.

The libruls are especially embarrassed that the candidate that they, the msm, Obama, and Hillary mocked for over a year beat the daylights out of them.

 

[MAGAnificent]

I don't think he was deluded in that statement. If he could have run again, and it was Obama v Trump, I really do think he would have won again. I mean, I would have not voted for him for a third time, but I don't think he could have lost to Trump. Only Hillary could lose to Trump.

But then, you were pretty sure Hillary was going to win. Perhaps when the left is willing to slow down the rhetoric and reflect on the real reasons Hillary lost as well as the reasons the democrats have lost control of the house, the senate, most state legislatures, and most state governors, primarily over Obama's policies, you may at some point pick up the pieces and move forward. If the left continues to go off the rails politically, the republicans will be in charge for quite some time to come.

 

[MAGAnificent]

You should be embaresed by your vote. I have yet to personally meet anyone who will admit, in the flesh, to have voted for the man.

While there are points where I had no intention of voting for Trump, he won me over during the debates. I voted for Trump and I am not ashamed in the least. Perhaps you should be ashamed of your vote for Hillary, considering that she has been in scandal-damage control for her entire political career, not to mention her attacks against the women who her philandering husband abused.

Then again, most my friends are educated, and do not fly the Confederate flag.

Well, I happen to be educated and despite residing in the deep south, I have never flown the confederate flag. You need to get your head out of the old "Dukes of hazard" sitcoms.

 

[Born Free]

I can't speak for "they all", but I can speak for what I believe.

Yeah and you believed Hillary would win, maybe you should check your prediction credibility.

 

[Abbazorkzog]

I am delighted to see liberals finally admitting that Hillary was a flawed candidate.

I doubt you could find a single post of mine on this forum praising Hillary.
Oh, and I'm not a Liberal.

 

[Abbazorkzog]

What about this guy,

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Could he have won?

Is he eligible to run for President?

 

[Ikari]

But then, you were pretty sure Hillary was going to win.

Fair enough, I did think she was going to win (though I refused to vote for her as well). So maybe he wouldn't have won against Trump. I find it far more likely that Obama would have beaten Trump over Hillary as Obama is an incumbent, and Hillary is god awful.

 

[radcen]

Fair enough, I did think she was going to win (though I refused to vote for her as well). So maybe he wouldn't have won against Trump. I find it far more likely that Obama would have beaten Trump over Hillary as Obama is an incumbent, and Hillary is god awful.

While Hillary was the status quo candidate, status quo on steroids maybe even, I really don't think she and Obama were that intertwined in people's minds. I believe that she lost because of her own issues and baggage, not because of anything Obama did or didn't do.

 

[Lovebug]

I fear that we won't have an opportunity to miss Mr. Obama because he is never going away.

He is a classless jackass, and has proven that many times. Think of GW want you want, at least he is a gentleman and had to the dignity to just fade away.

 

[Ikari]

While Hillary was the status quo candidate, status quo on steroids maybe even, I really don't think she and Obama were that intertwined in people's minds. I believe that she lost because of her own issues and baggage, not because of anything Obama did or didn't do.

I definitely think Hillary lost because of her and nothing due to Obama. It's why I would also suggest that Obama would have beaten Trump had there not been term limits. But who knows where we'd be without term limits, perhaps the ghost of FDR would be president.

 

[AlbqOwl]

I agree with what you are expressing here, but you know with all of that, If someone like an Obama, with the charisma and the slick packaging had been running, Trump would be reporting to work at his tower after January....

I'm not so sure. It is popular to give Obama a high approval rating--I mean he is black and stayed relatively scandal free personally and he is symbolic of a historical breaking of the glass ceiling and all that--but somehow I don't think enough of all those people in all those red counties who voted for Trump were wanting a third Obama term to have made a difference. And, if he had been running, every wart and pimple of his character and track record would have constantly been front and center. And he doesn't take personal criticism any better than Trump does and might have been somewhat less lovable.

We can't know for sure. But in retrospect, this was Trump's election to lose. And he didn't.