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It's hard to see how these M1 rifles could be considered risky when they already are offered for sale by the U.S. government through the Civilian Marksmanship Program. In fact, the federally sponsored CMP puts on summer camps that teach boys and girls how to handle the Garand properly and safely. In the past seven years, there hasn't been a single accident. Many of the participants go on to serve their country or take part in shooting sports at the collegiate and Olympic level.
The emals and calls keep pouring in to CMP asking about the Korean rifles and carbines. The following is our reply:
The rumors, reports, articles about Korea have been circulating for at least five years. A few months ago a Korean newspaper once again reported that they would selling Garands and carbines to a US importer. The CMP is not a firearms importer and we do not have any involvement of any kind in anything that may happen with these Korean rifles and carbines.
The only way any rifle or carbine from any country can find its way to the CMP is if the country returns loaned rifles back to the US Army. When that happens, the CMP "may" possibly receive some of those rifles. According to the recent articles, Korea will not be returning anything to the US Army, but will be "selling" these rifles to an importer. If, in fact, these rifles are sold to an importer, the CMP will not see even one of them. We do not have any additional information on this subject. Thanks for understanding.
Orest Michaels
Chief Operating Officer
The Korean Government knows exaclty why the deal was not approved.
The Koreans cannot prove that they ever paid for all of those M1's with their own money.
In the absence of such proof, the U.S. Government takes the position that the material was given to the Korea and therefore the U.S. Government is not going to allow them to sell the rifles and keep the money.
MAP grants are not "loans." The Koreans own the rifles - Lock stock and barrel. They can keep them until the end of time if they wish and your congressman cannot compel them to return them to the US. The only problem is when the Koreans decide they don't want to keep them anymore. They can either sell them and give the money, less packing costs, directly to the US government or they can return the rifles and bill the U.S. Government for the packing cost. This is unlikely to happen as the Koreans know these things are worth $500 - $1000 each on the US retail market and they want the money in their pocket, not the CMP's.
But, Obama wants to come to your house and take your guns away! You know that is so, because he is a Democrat, and Democrats are anti gun.
So, keep the rumors flowing. Rumors help to sell guns and so help keep the economy going.
tell me what party sponsored and passed
1) the 1934 NFA
2) the GCA of 1968
3 ) The Hughes Amendment
4) the Brady Bill
5) the Clinton AWB
other than reagan signing the Firearm Ownwer protection act which contained the poison pill hughes amendment because the NRA thought the ban would be overturned while the benefits of the MV FOPA was more important, every major federal restriction on gun rights has been sponsored by and signed into law by dems.
every major attempt to expand gun bans federally have come from dems
other than reagan signing the Firearm Ownwer protection act which contained the poison pill hughes amendment because the NRA thought the ban would be overturned while the benefits of the MV FOPA was more important, every major federal restriction on gun rights has been sponsored by and signed into law by dems.
from Turtledude
and despite those measures you still can have your guns. Your rights are intact and strong.
The militia is to be well regulated. It does not necessarily refer to firearms.Exactly. reasonable controls (you know, well regulated) do not equal taking our guns away. Unless some is paranoid, reasonable restrictions can be supported without supporting banning all weapons.
The militia is to be well regulated. It does not necessarily refer to firearms.
Up for debate. A poorly written amendment is why we have this debate so often. But don't skip the point. You can support reasonable regulation without supporting banning all guns.
Neither are the gun grabbers.Restricting the sale of antique M1 rifles is not reasonable, by any means.
Shall not be infringed was infringed making the above claim total, complete and absolute bull****.from Turtledude
and despite those measures you still can have your guns. Your rights are intact and strong.
That depends upon one's definition of reasonable.Up for debate. A poorly written amendment is why we have this debate so often. But don't skip the point. You can support reasonable regulation without supporting banning all guns.
That depends upon one's definition of reasonable.
I do agree that the Second Amendment is poorly worded. I wish the Founders had known just how much parsing would be done of the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Restricting the sale of antique M1 rifles is not reasonable, by any means.
from Turtledude
and despite those measures you still can have your guns. Your rights are intact and strong.
Restricting the sale of antique M1 rifles is not reasonable, by any means.
Unless the seller doesn't really own them.
Unless the seller doesn't really own them.
Actually, I'd love to see what the ownership statute on that is myself. Seems to me that this many years after the Korean war if there hasn't been a claimant on the rifles then it would default to the holder(S.Korea) and that would make them a legit seller. Of course we know that federal law is ALWAYS made much more complicated than it has to be with more loopholes than necessary.If the U.S. government hasn't claimed them by now, they no longer own them.
Actually, I'd love to see what the ownership statute on that is myself. Seems to me that this many years after the Korean war if there hasn't been a claimant on the rifles then it would default to the holder(S.Korea) and that would make them a legit seller. Of course we know that federal law is ALWAYS made much more complicated than it has to be with more loopholes than necessary.
As well, I have no clue how the idiots in Washington can think a semi-automatic carbine rifle could be any more dangerous than a similar hunting rifle on the market today. Oh, I know........because it was used as a military weapon right? Ugh, we have a massive stupidity problem at the federal level right now.
I agree, I think it's 10 years for the La. squatter rule(which is total bull****!) but point taken. That's the other thing, how in the hell can someone lay claim on property they trespassed on to begin with? At least the S.Korean government can claim the weapons due to storage costs.If you can lose your land property in 7 years to squatters, these guns should be long gone from the ownership of the U.S. gov.
that appears to be a reasonable ground for debate. About 20 years ago a company called Blue Sky or something like that procurred a bunch of MI carbines that have Korean arsenal/armory marks on the stocks (I tend to be up on this stuff). I bought a couple-gave one away to a guy who does WWII reenactments thinking its bore sucked-turns out the koreans had put a new barrel on this Inland gun (Inland is the most common carbine and has little collector value but were very well made-better than the rarer Pedersen or Winchesters ) and it shot well but the stock was awful. Apparently that importer had purchased a warehouse full of cached carbines from Seoul. The guns were obviously originally uS WWII issue.
I was under the impression we gave that stuff to Korea-whether it was a LOAN or a GIFT would be relevant
If you can lose your land property in 7 years to squatters, these guns should be long gone from the ownership of the U.S. gov.
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