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I will admit my memory is not flawless, but I don't appreciate that what you are doing, is effectively calling me a liar.I did not think you could prove it. I love watching you guys making **** up, and then getting outrages at the **** you make up, and by god it is all Obama's fault you are outraged....
It is hilarious in this thread watching documented facts getting put forward, and then just ignored in favor of blaming Obama. Facts, context, reality, none of those things are important to some of the conservative posters in this thread, because they have to bitch about Obama. Where it gets hilariously sad is that there are so many things that are completely legit that you all could blame Obama for, things that matter, and yet you all go for lies.
Did Obama give me IBS too! That socialist prick!
I started looking for it, but didn't find it yet.
I'm pretty sure, just like promising to pull troops out of Iraq by the end of 2010, or when ever it was, he also promised free cell phones
Yes, I was a victim. On top of the storm, some asshole decided to back into the side of my car in a parking lot that day, and then take off. Love those kinds of people. I should've started rice patties this year instead of gardens. Rain every day, and lots of it. The bugs are eating my egg plant, and I can't address the problem because of the rain. Weeds everywhere. It's global wetting. Then again, there's that drought you're caught in down there...My area of NE Ohio has already received more rain this year than we got all last year, according to reports I am receiving! Were you a victim of that large storm system? Is that why you were without power? I'm in Texas, as you know, and they really would like some rain here... :shrug:
Politicians make unfulfilled campaign promises all the time. They also promise things they already know will happen, and take credit for them if they are elected.
Did Obama take credit for getting us out of Iraq, or did he say that Bush got us out by sugning the SOFA in 2008.
Think about that.
I'm rather certain, that while campaigning, Obama also said he would make cell phone usage free for the poor. My point is he did not do it since it was already law passed during the Bush administration. Since then, he hasn't tried to claim it like he claimed on getting us out of Iraq, but both have equal merit.
Do you follow my point?
Says the guy starting an OP baswd on a video from master liar O'Keefe.
LOL...
O'Keefe may spin right, but there ar so many more that spin faster and harder to the left.
What did O'Keefe lie about
Was it the part where the guy in the video says " I don't judge" as he is willing to hand over a phone at someone else's expense so they can buy heroin?
You're attacking the messenger because you can't debate the facts
O'Keefe generally lies by ommission. Or editing.
We've been debating the facts of the program.
Judging from his track record of blatant deceit, a discerning person must reject the contents of the video. Must assume its staged or deceptively edited.
Because that is all O'Keefe does.
There is no track record of blatant deceit. I understand Daily Kos told you that, but that doesn't make it true. You keep bleeting the same talking point so consider this the last response.
O'Keefe didn't make the people in that video push phones on people after they were told those phones would be used to buy heroin. You can whine, stomp your feet and call O'Keefe a liar all you want. Doesn't change the FACTS.
There is no track record of blatant deceit. I understand Daily Kos told you that, but that doesn't make it true. You keep bleeting the same talking point so consider this the last response.
O'Keefe didn't make the people in that video push phones on people after they were told those phones would be used to buy heroin. You can whine, stomp your feet and call O'Keefe a liar all you want. Doesn't change the FACTS.
I will admit my memory is not flawless, but I don't appreciate that what you are doing, is effectively calling me a liar.
Politicians make unfulfilled campaign promises all the time. They also promise things they already know will happen, and take credit for them if they are elected.
Did Obama take credit for getting us out of Iraq, or did he say that Bush got us out by sugning the SOFA in 2008.
Think about that.
I'm rather certain, that while campaigning, Obama also said he would make cell phone usage free for the poor. My point is he did not do it since it was already law passed during the Bush administration. Since then, he hasn't tried to claim it like he claimed on getting us out of Iraq, but both have equal merit.
Do you follow my point?
And you have none that it was.
You don't get it.Did the right give credit to Obama for following the SAME timeline of Bush in getting out of Iraq? No, they didn't. Think about that.
Tell that to the Right WingersYou don't get it.
It was already the law between our two nations. For him not to have pulled the troops out by that timeline could effectively be considered declaring war, against the new Iraq.
Politics as usual. They do it on both sides.Tell that to the Right Wingers
Iraq war: Obama under GOP fire for decision to pull US troops out by end of 2011 | Mail Online
Politics as usual. They do it on both sides.
When the voters realize just how much these people lie to us, we might actually start getting some good ones voted in.
You don't get it.
It was already the law between our two nations. For him not to have pulled the troops out by that timeline could effectively be considered declaring war, against the new Iraq.
Perhaps it's time we learn that the neo-conservatives have no capacity to understand anything that isn't clear cut and therefore disregard anything akin to a complexity. Using Mathematics as an analogy... they get simple math; adding, subtracting, some even manage multiplication and division, but algebra, or heavens forbid trigonometry or calculus...yeah, not happening (which is what most reality is built upon if not even more complicated maths), anyway, anything beyond elementary news/opinion/perception is beyond their ability or willingness to comprehend....Which ignores that negotiations where under way to extend troop commitment. It is not nearly so clear cut as you try and make it out to be. Obama could have kept troops in Iraq, and fairly easily.
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