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So your argument is that we shouldn't take your evidence as evidence because it is incomplete and not representative of what you wanted to represent?
Washington is nothing if not tit-for-tat. Each is as bad as the other.I'll admit the Dems didn't discuss some suggested options that were potentially beneficial. They're not above partisan crappery. But just because the Dems were obstructionists doesn't justify the GOP for doing it.
Politically they are going to pound away at it all summer and fall. The Republican campaign commercials will be starring Obama, Pelosi and Reid.I bet the Republicans better hope it's a flop, the way they've continually damned it. I'll use Fox News as my gauge of how poorly it's doing, since they rail day and night about it, but if they suddenly drop coverage....oooops.
I'll agree that there are provisions that are not fair to those who make more. And I don't agree with it but the less fortunate, literally, can't pay more. It's not just healthcare that's too high, it's the insurance paid for coverage. This bill addressed certain aspects of insurance companies denying preexisting conditions, capping limits and dropping coverage, so it's not all bad.
I seriously don't think it matters if the GOP or Dems control the gov, because it's the same bunch of malfunctioning idealism and bureaucracy.
Obamacare tops 6 million signups - Mar. 27, 2014
Funny, no mention of this on Fox? Shocking I tell you. Shocking.
Boo hoo. Now Americans won't go broke, lose their homes, lose their retirement and everything they've worked for their entire lives if they get sick. How horrible for the American people.
Washington is nothing if not tit-for-tat. Each is as bad as the other.
Politically they are going to pound away at it all summer and fall. The Republican campaign commercials will be starring Obama, Pelosi and Reid.
Does it really matter to you? Let's say all of them have paid, would you call Obamacare a success?
No...my insurance went bye bye.
No, you should take evidence as evidence. But because it's incomplete, it's inconclusive.
I hope you didn't like it.
No, you should take evidence as evidence. But because it's incomplete, it's inconclusive.
It had served it purpose....but was told it wasn't enough funds to pay for others healthcare.
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No, you should take evidence as evidence. But because it's incomplete, it's inconclusive.
I think the government planned it that way. At least, they didn't try to hide it.Horrible in what way, that the current law is hurting over twice as many as it is helping? That the number of people going on medicaid is growing while the number of doctors who accept medicaid patients is dropping and that having insurance for a lot of these people means absolutely nothing.
Medicaid was the reason that the health care system needed an over haul. I don't know how putting more people on medicaid will help solve that problem...but the CBO office predicts the ACA will help reduce the nations debt. So perhaps the real reason for the ACA isn't to save the consumers money...it's to save the government money that it pays on the national debt. Apparently, medicaid costs were becoming a bottomless money pit and ACA is the plug.But it does makes some people feel good. Like it or not, this law didn't address healthcare for the poor, it addressed insurance. It is a law the majority didn't want because 80% of Americans were happy with what they had. Instead of taking care of the 20% and that is a high number if we are talking about only getting the poor who didn't have health insurance insurance, not those who could afford it but choose not to get it. We give most of those an insurance policy that is getting more and more worthless.
I think your doom and gloom is a bit premature considering the law has only been in effect for a few months and way too soon to draw such unsubstantiated conclusions. I don't like paying for insurance anymore than next person, but I'm glad that social safety net is there now....and not because of poor folks...but because who knows, me and mine might need it, too. Anyway, as time goes on the law will undoubtedly get "tweaked"...just as other laws of such magnitude have in the past. And in no time at all, people will just take health insurance for granted...just like they do social security.Pat yourself on the back if you must, but I think it would have been better to address those poor folks who didn't have health care instead of this monster which hurts more than it helps and gives a lot of people a piece of paper that is just that, a piece of paper. but hey, they have that piece of paper.
You do know they signed up right?
Their is no statics of those that picked a plan let alone paid for it. And let's not mention that 6 million people lost their healthcare plan.
But go ahead and light another candle.....
Obamacare tops 6 million signups - Mar. 27, 2014
Funny, no mention of this on Fox? Shocking I tell you. Shocking.
I heard it on Fox. Since you don't watch Fox it would make sense you didn't hear it there. ?
Web site.
I agree that there are some provisions in the ACA that can broadly be applied as something good for every American, including the things you listed specifically. You're correct that the ACA isn't all bad. But it's also very very far from all good.
And bureaucracy will kill any idea that will have a positive impact on the majority of Americans. I think you are a realist as I am.
I'm a conservative and I'd love to see people get helped. But all people, not just the poor. Healthcare costs are way too high for most of us and it's eating up a substantial portions of our incomes. This bill didn't fix that problem.
The GOP isn't going to sweep anything. They will retain control of the House and probably pick up a few seats in the Senate. POTUS is too far away to consider.
I respectfully disagree. My prediction is that there will end up being a 50-50 split in the Senate, but am open to the possibility that the GOP will end up with 51. In non-presidential year elections, Democrats just don't turn out.
I respectfully disagree. My prediction is that there will end up being a 50-50 split in the Senate, but am open to the possibility that the GOP will end up with 51. In non-presidential year elections, Democrats just don't turn out.
and if democrats do turn out?
I think the government planned it that way. At least, they didn't try to hide it.
Medicaid was the reason that the health care system needed an over haul. I don't know how putting more people on medicaid will help solve that problem...but the CBO office predicts the ACA will help reduce the nations debt. So perhaps the real reason for the ACA isn't to save the consumers money...it's to save the government money that it pays on the national debt. Apparently, medicaid costs were becoming a bottomless money pit and ACA is the plug.
I think your doom and gloom is a bit premature considering the law has only been in effect for a few months and way too soon to draw such unsubstantiated conclusions. I don't like paying for insurance anymore than next person, but I'm glad that social safety net is there now....and not because of poor folks...but because who knows, me and mine might need it, too. Anyway, as time goes on the law will undoubtedly get "tweaked"...just as other laws of such magnitude have in the past. And in no time at all, people will just take health insurance for granted...just like they do social security.
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