Way to Change, Obama!
....as predicted.
The Association of American Medical Colleges' Center for Workforce Studies released new estimates that showed shortages would be 50 percent worse in 2015 than forecast.
"While previous projections showed a baseline shortage of 39,600 doctors in 2015, current estimates bring that number closer to 63,000, with a worsening of shortages through 2025," the group said in a statement...
The AAMC projected a shortage of 33,100 physicians in specialties such as cardiology, oncology and emergency medicine in 2015... Other groups, such as the nonprofit Rand Corporation and the Institute of Medicine, have also projected various physician shortages.
as we pointed out at the beginning of his whole thing; price controls always backlash. and you can't increase demand, decrease supply, and expect prices to go down.
Oh well. Plenty of fine Indian, Chinese, and Middle Eastern doctors chomping at the bit to come to the US and replace them.
Blame the A.M.A. for that.Their re-certification on U.S. soil is not cheap. Fewer will come if the payoff is not worth it afterward.
The U.S. system has been a cash cow for private doctors for a long time now. It has been the bane of the Canadian medical system... students graduate using Canadian tuition fees, then go down to the U.S. and make big bucks.
This is good news for us.
Damn straight! Every Canadian health care professional who is good enough to compete comes down here to practice, and every Canadian wealthy enough to afford it comes down here for care.It has been the bane of the Canadian medical system... students graduate using Canadian tuition fees, then go down to the U.S. and make big bucks.
This is good news for us.
Damn straight! Every Canadian health care professional who is good enough to compete comes down here to practice, and every Canadian wealthy enough to afford it comes down here for care.
And sometimes even the Canadian government sends them down here. Last year a woman in Calgary who had been taking fertility treatments came down with a case of quadruplets. Multiples are generally premature, and preemies need incubators. Calgary (pop. 1,000,000) did not have four incubators, so the Canadian health authorities sent her to Great Falls, MT (pop. 50,000) which did have the necessary equipment. I have also heard that the hospitals in Detroit and Buffalo do a booming business as subcontractors to the Canadian health system.
Gee, if only there were some way to match the increase in demand for doctors. Like, some way for there to be more doctors. A supply of doctors, if you will.
Damn straight! Every Canadian health care professional who is good enough to compete comes down here to practice, and every Canadian wealthy enough to afford it comes down here for care.
And sometimes even the Canadian government sends them down here. Last year a woman in Calgary who had been taking fertility treatments came down with a case of quadruplets. Multiples are generally premature, and preemies need incubators. Calgary (pop. 1,000,000) did not have four incubators, so the Canadian health authorities sent her to Great Falls, MT (pop. 50,000) which did have the necessary equipment. I have also heard that the hospitals in Detroit and Buffalo do a booming business as subcontractors to the Canadian health system.
It's not just spending, it's government monopoly control that's the problem. No government - anywhere on the planet, at any time in history - has ever demonstrated the slightest competence in delivering retail consumer goods and services.Maybe the problem isn't that we pay too much - maybe it's that Canada doesn't pay enough, then?
Ding ding ding
It's crazy that I would even have to mention this. People are talking about an increase in demand for doctors as if that were a bad thing. What, like the solution to doctor shortages and long waits is to have people just not go to the doctor? Pretty sure we want that trend to go the other way, America!
Oh well. Plenty of fine Indian, Chinese, and Middle Eastern doctors chomping at the bit to come to the US and replace them.
Gee, if only there were some way to match the increase in demand for doctors. Like, some way for there to be more doctors. A supply of doctors, if you will.
The myth that Canadians flock to the U.S. for proper care has been thoroughly debunked, although the American right-wing continues to perpetuate this lie. It's true that Canadians always have the choice to go south if they want, but they don't do it because of lack of facilities up here.
Just because wealthy people have money to travel and see the best of the best, that doesn't mean they always do. People who decide to stay in Canada can still get good treatment. It's not like the care isn't available.
It's simpler to just call it socialism and move on.
Seriously... the number of medical schools in the U.S. has dropped by something like 75% in the past 80 years. The other way to decrease costs is to create more doctors, thus driving down the cost of care. There are many parts of the world where being a doctor is not a rich person's job. Iran is one example. The medical field has reached saturation. I don't see why we can't do that here.
because our medical field is a guild; you could call it partial unionization, if you will. the number of doctors entering the system is controlled by the medical field, which seeks deliberately to keep a shortage of supply in order to keep price high.
cpwill said:only problem; those medical schools don't always insist on the same standards and demanding curriculum as our own.
It's not just spending, it's government monopoly control that's the problem. No government - anywhere on the planet, at any time in history - has ever demonstrated the slightest competence in delivering retail consumer goods and services.
In the production sector, governments are way too conservative, and spend their time protecting last year's jobs at the expense of next year's products. In the service sector (medicine, for example, or the DMV) the service providers work for a bureaucrat supervisor, *not* for the customer, and without the competition of a free market there is no way for the customer to hold the service provider accountable.
Government enterprises have no incentive to become efficient and they all respond to pressure the same way: hand over more money, or we'll cut back the service.
In the US we're privatized. The government does not cut the Dr's paycheck and the government has no right or control over anyone's pay *unless* they're government. The government can try to dictate (regulate, reform) - but they can't cap salaries unless there's a significant stake in the company (like - having given massive bailouts)
The myth that Canadians flock to the U.S. for proper care has been thoroughly debunked, although the American right-wing continues to perpetuate this lie. It's true that Canadians always have the choice to go south if they want, but they don't do it because of lack of facilities up here. The U.S. may have some of the most experienced doctors in the world in certain procedures, so people go to seek the best of the best. Canada also has doctors in specific fields who are considered the best at what they do, and Canadian hospitals host many foreigners who come from far and wide to get procedures done by the best doctors.
Just because wealthy people have money to travel and see the best of the best, that doesn't mean they always do. People who decide to stay in Canada can still get good treatment. It's not like the care isn't available.
As for the subcontractor comment... I would like to see proof of that.
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