Obamacare Navigators Counsel Applicants TO LIE and DEFRAUD

[Middleground]

Re: It's ACORN all over again... This time with Obamacare

Then why did you try and use that to imply that content of the videos had been altered or manipulated?

I didn't. I used facts instead. Like the fact that the guy called the cops as soon as they left the office.

Tell me Grim... when you watch the video that O'Keefe put out, is that the impression you're left with of this guy? Or did O'Keefe make him look like a criminal?

 

[mak2]

Re: Project Veratas does it Again

Heck, I really like this post. :lamo

Yes, suckered!!! What does the video prove about Obamacare Navagators??? Nada

 

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Re: Project Veratas does it Again

Does that change what those people said?

I think not... any comment on their words?

When a nuthob goes on a shooting spree does it mean all gunowners are going to go on shooting sprees?

No it doesn't.

An individuals acts do not define the group to which they belong.

Y'all claim that every time one of your guys ****s up.

But find a couple people on the other side ****ing up and ALL liberals are ****ups. One shady individual and the whole group is shady in your eyes.

And you completely ignore that for every shady individual he finds there are a number who shut his ass down, even called the cops.

 

[Fenton]

Re: Project Veratas does it Again

James O'Keefe is a known liar who used doctored video to take down ACORN. He is a proven fraud. He has zero credibility.

LOL !!!

He just produces video that exposes the outright corruption that IS the Democrat party. You folks really have no place to talk when it comes to credibility.

 

[Middleground]

Re: It's ACORN all over again... This time with Obamacare

We're about to hit 150 posts, and still not one person on the left has denounced or had as much as a harsh word for the people who were hired by the government, who were telling people how to defraud the government.

The video is a fraud.

 

[Middleground]

Re: Project Veratas does it Again

LOL !!!

He just produces video that exposes the outright corruption that IS the Democrat party. You folks really have no place to talk when it comes to credibility.

 

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Re: Project Veratas does it Again

do you have to prove everyone in an organization committed a fraud before you can say an organization is guilty of fraud ?

So if a clerk steals your identity, is the store or the clerk at fault?

 

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Re: It's ACORN all over again... This time with Obamacare

I know.

Now did you know the guy called the police after O'Keefe left the office? Was it not deceiving? (and please don't let the bliders affect your judgement)

IIRC, he called while they were still there and was stalling them.

 

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Re: It's ACORN all over again... This time with Obamacare

Then why did you try and use that to imply that content of the videos had been altered or manipulated?

Why didn't he show the videos where they threw his ass out?

If he's all objective and everything.

 

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Re: Project Veratas does it Again

But the guy showed himself entering an ACORN office with pimp clothes on, when he really wore a business suite, which as you know means those ACORN workers were all victims of edited and manipulated videos and never really said any of that stuff... Good lord man, common sense is not welcome here, so shooo, shoooo.

<sarcasm off>

He also told them he was trying to set up a rescue for illegal alien prostitutes, NOT a whorehouse.

So while inappropriate, nowhere near as "evil" as portrayed.

If you were a.social.worker genuinely concerned with the plight of illegal alien sex slaves, might you fudge the rules a bit to actually help them rather than throwing them in the immigration system?

Bet you still believe they were helping him set up an underage whorehouse don't you?

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Re: It's ACORN all over again... This time with Obamacare

O'Keefe is similar to Michael Moore. Any video or information he produces, I assume is nothing more than partisan hack entertainment, so I respond accordingly... by giving it no credibility.

 

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Re: It's ACORN all over again... This time with Obamacare

Oh yes, when he showed himself walking into the office wearing pimp clothes... That sure did change everything all of those ACORN people said.

LMMFAO

See my latest post.

Then explain away his deception to the workers in question.

(You'll NEVER see me defending Michael Moore the way y'all defend O'Keefe. Which says something)

 

[trfjr]

Re: Project Veratas does it Again

The point is this.

O'Keefe has a history of editing videos to make false claims.

Until we know more, I think some of us will suspend our disbelief as O'Keefe is known for using this tactic.

You can run away from that all you want, and if it turns out that the video is indeed in full context and legitimate you'll hear me call for action.

But unlike you I don't take known liars claims at face value just because he's conservative and is attacking something you don't like.

After all.

We know you would never associate yourself with liars would you Grim?

he is guilty of condensing editing to emphasize the narrative like every news organization does. most people don't want to watch hours of tape to get to the point of the vid
but he post the whole vid on the web site to show he isn't doctoring the vids and taking things out of context

 

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Re: It's ACORN all over again... This time with Obamacare

We're about to hit 150 posts, and still not one person on the left has denounced or had as much as a harsh word for the people who were hired by the government, who were telling people how to defraud the government.

Fool me once...

 

[trfjr]

Re: It's ACORN all over again... This time with Obamacare

See my latest post.

Then explain away his deception to the workers in question.

(You'll NEVER see me defending Michael Moore the way y'all defend O'Keefe. Which says something)

and would have those Acorn employees acted or said anything different if O'Keefe dressed as a priest?

 

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Re: It's ACORN all over again... This time with Obamacare

and would have those Acorn employees acted or said anything different if O'Keefe dressed as a priest?

More probably would have believed his lies and tried to help him fudge the rules.

If he dressed as a priest and tried to get them to help him set up an underage whorehouse?

Probably would have ended up in jail.

 

[ocean515]

Re: It's ACORN all over again... This time with Obamacare

No. The implication is that the guy is still guilty of what-the-****-ever, in your mind and other partisans, that indeed he did do something illegal. In your mind and others who choose to have less vision than Stevie Wonder are using the "but.. but... but... the payout was because he was filmed illegally!1!111!!," angle as a way to diminish O'Keefe deceptive practices. Which, by the way, is incredibly asinine, IMO.

Gee whiz. Ummm. Putting you're hyperbolic rant aside, I mearly posted the facts behind the $100,000 O'Keefe paid for illegally video taping someone in California.

I cast no judgement what-so-ever about anything else.

The only implication here is what you're over the top post is providing in this thread.

Congratulations :applaud

 

[Fenton]

Re: Project Veratas does it Again

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Seriously ?

You people have devolved to posting photograph's with out literary context ? Anyone who can expose the corruption at Democratic Political action groups is doing this Nation a huge favor.

 

[Grim17]

Re: Project Veratas does it Again

When a nuthob goes on a shooting spree does it mean all gunowners are going to go on shooting sprees?

No it doesn't.

An individuals acts do not define the group to which they belong.

Y'all claim that every time one of your guys ****s up.

But find a couple people on the other side ****ing up and ALL liberals are ****ups. One shady individual and the whole group is shady in your eyes.

And you completely ignore that for every shady individual he finds there are a number who shut his ass down, even called the cops.

I'm going to take that as a "no" on whether you're going to comment on what those people said.

 

[Grim17]

Re: It's ACORN all over again... This time with Obamacare

The video is a fraud.

Really... Got a link?

 

[Grim17]

Re: It's ACORN all over again... This time with Obamacare

I've never seen so many liberals, dish out so many excuses to avoid discussing a topic in my life... You've been trained well, but unfortunately that training isn't fooling anyone but yourselves.

I guess that people hired by the government, who are advising the public how to defraud the government, is just standard operating procedure to you all, as long as the head of the government has that all important "D" after his name.

Move along people... Nothing to see here.

 

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Re: Project Veratas does it Again

I'm going to take that as a "no" on whether you're going to comment on what those people said.

I'll wait until somebody else debunks it for me as all the others have been.

Or its verified as true by reliable sources.

Your boy made his bed.

I wouldn't put it past him to use bribes/plants.

 

[Grim17]

Re: Project Veratas does it Again

I'll wait until somebody else debunks it for me as all the others have been.

As all the other have been... ROFLMMFAO

Those ACORN workers were framed I tell ya... FRAMED!

Good Lord... lol

 

[rocket88]

Re: It's ACORN all over again... This time with Obamacare

and would have those Acorn employees acted or said anything different if O'Keefe dressed as a priest?

Why would it matter? He's not a priest as far as I know, so if he did so that would be a bit dishonest. Unless you can prove that he is a priest.

 

[rocket88]

Re: It's ACORN all over again... This time with Obamacare

I've never seen so many liberals, dish out so many excuses to avoid discussing a topic in my life... You've been trained well, but unfortunately that training isn't fooling anyone but yourselves.

I guess that people hired by the government, who are advising the public how to defraud the government, is just standard operating procedure to you all, as long as the head of the government has that all important "D" after his name.

Move along people... Nothing to see here.

Well no, Bill O'Reilly showed this video by a filmaker who's an (R) on Fox News. So of course, you believe it 100%.