do you seriously believe all of that? If you do, you would have to explain to me how that would even remotely be a viable political or economic strategy. I think you have bought into an absurd carricature of your political opposition that has no real relationship to reality.In normal times it would be a no brainer...today however, with the Grover Norquist and the Paul Ryans and the teaparty in general, anything more than tax cuts for just the rich are filthy treasonous unconstitutional words. The name of the far right game is take pensions and health benefits from private and public workers, lower their pay...cut social security and medicare, repeal obamacare and give huge tax breaks to the rich individuals and corporations that do not pay anywhere near what they are supposed to anyway an in alot of cases pay NOTHING...all while they outsource every middleclass job they can...and
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I would think middle class tax cuts would be something both sides could agree with.
It's hard to take you seriously when you employ so much hyperbole...
Just sayin...
In normal times it would be a no brainer...today however, with the Grover Norquist and the Paul Ryans and the teaparty in general, anything more than tax cuts for just the rich are filthy treasonous unconstitutional words. The name of the far right game is take pensions and health benefits from private and public workers, lower their pay...cut social security and medicare, repeal obamacare and give huge tax breaks to the rich individuals and corporations that do not pay anywhere near what they are supposed to anyway an in alot of cases pay NOTHING...all while they outsource every middleclass job they can...and
Thats the reason Romny isnt 10 full points ahead of obama with the economy in the toilet like it is....Recent Rasmussen poll shows the teaparty is viewed unfavorably by most of the country...Gallup Poll shows the teaparty even LESS popular. The new far right teaparty house of representatives are at the lowest approval rating of any congress session ever....they have not only accomplished NOTHING....they have caused more harm
all or nothing is the proper strategy
if the dems want to keep the current tax rates intact its for everyone
the one group that already pays far too much taxes is targeted for massive tax hikes by the dems
I don't believe in half measures and I don't believe in pitting one group of people against another. It appears, with this news, that Obama doesn't agree with me. So be it...and I'm not surprised.
My recommendation to both Parties: Either end the tax cuts for everyone or extend it for everyone. Have the courage and integrity to take a position one way or the other and accept the consequences (good or bad) for your position.
For some reason, I don't think either Party will consider my recommendation.
The rich fully realize that - outside of themselves and their paid sycophants and toadies - there is precious little support for tax cuts for the wealthy. So they want to use the idea of tax cuts for the middle class as blackmail to keep their own taxes low as well. They are more than willing to put a gun to the head of the working class and use it to get what they want for themselves.
Turtle is a very good barometer of this. If he had his way we would let the middle class tax cuts expire while cutting taxes on the wealthy even more.
On the other hand, I feel that all these tax rates should be allowed to expire and raise taxes across the board.
you make more you pay more, not sure why this is so hard for you to understand...and as has been shown, your tax rate is the lowest it has been in over a half century.all or nothing is the proper strategy
if the dems want to keep the current tax rates intact its for everyone
the one group that already pays far too much taxes is targeted for massive tax hikes by the dems
you think that the rich should pay more and more and more
you believe that the government spending level is proper and the government needs more money
I do not
easier to lie about it than debate you on it...Lord knows that I have corrected you so many times on what my position is that it causes one to wonder why you continue to lie about it?
I am in favor of
1- increasing taxes across the board for ALL Americans earning dollar one at a full five points
2- decreasing current federal government spending by at least $300 billion right now
easier to lie about it than debate you on it...
Finally Someone trying to do something for the class that carries this country, in WARS and economically by doing the LABOR and actual WORK...that produces our economy.
Its refreshing to have someone care about those that really need a break and not just slobbering all over themselves sniveling about how very bad the 1% that has 99% has it....
President Obama returns to the tax issue today, with plans to call for a one-year extension of George W. Bush-era tax cuts for the middle class.Obama will again call for letting the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy to expire at the end of the year, saying the revenue can be used to help reduce debt and finance middle class programs like education.
"President Obama today will push for extension of middle class tax cuts," tweeted White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer. "Will the GOP join him to provide certainty for 98% of Americans?"
Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension
I was under the impression that tax cuts encouraged job creation.Tax cut don't mean much if you don't have a job. If Obama wanted to help the misdle class, then he should start by encouraging job creation rather than stifiling it.
Tax cut don't mean much if you don't have a job. If Obama wanted to help the misdle class, then he should start by encouraging job creation rather than stifiling it.
I was under the impression that tax cuts encouraged job creation.
Ah, so tax cuts for the business owner themselves stimulate spur economic activity and job creation, but the principle doesn't apply for the vast majority of said business owners consumer base. Interesting world view you have.Middle class worker don't create jobs.
that is no longer true, as we move closer and closer to the dates of actual implementation. For ten years of actual Obamacare the costs are a shade under three times that, and the deficit explodes.
Middle class worker don't create jobs.
perhaps it is you who is underpaid, and not us, who are overpaid.....Obama needs to inform blue collar union workers that they are overpaid.
If blue collar workers would accept more reasonable pay rates, we could put them to work instead of sending those jobs to China.
Ah, so tax cuts for the business owner themselves stimulate spur economic activity and job creation, but the principle doesn't apply for the vast majority of said business owners consumer base. Interesting world view you have.
perhaps it is you who is underpaid, and not us, who are overpaid.....
AH, that's it...now explain how you are not overpaid on a global scale...and how your 'overpayment' does not support offshoring...
Every job held by a Democrat should be sent offshore.
i find it simply amazing, that some people actually support the race to the bottom in this country, and actually support those who ship jobs out so they only have to pay pennies an hour... and even more amazing that there are those who continue to speak about things of which they have no clue....you labor under the assumption that all unionized workers make 50 dollars an hour and have gold plated benefits....since you seem to have no clue, i'm gonna be nice, and give ya one....no, not all of us, not even a majority of us, not even a significant percentage of us, make that kind of wage...and honestly, do you expect people in this country to work for pennies a day? i'll be nice and give you 2 for 1 special on clues today....alot of the jobs lost to outsourcing, were not unionized....7,8,9 dollar an hour jobs shipped overseas .....are those that lost these jobs overpaid in your book? exactly at what level do you consider someone to be overpaid? 7 dollars? 8.50? 9.00? or is 9.01 your breaking point?AH, that's it...now explain how you are not overpaid on a global scale...and how your 'overpayment' does not support offshoring...
i find it simply amazing, that some people actually support the race to the bottom in this country, and actually support those who ship jobs out so they only have to pay pennies an hour... and even more amazing that there are those who continue to speak about things of which they have no clue....you labor under the assumption that all unionized workers make 50 dollars an hour and have gold plated benefits....since you seem to have no clue, i'm gonna be nice, and give ya one....no, not all of us, not even a majority of us, not even a significant percentage of us, make that kind of wage...and honestly, do you expect people in this country to work for pennies a day? i'll be nice and give you 2 for 1 special on clues today....alot of the jobs lost to outsourcing, were not unionized....7,8,9 dollar an hour jobs shipped overseas .....are those that lost these jobs overpaid in your book? exactly at what level do you consider someone to be overpaid? 7 dollars? 8.50? 9.00? or is 9.01 your breaking point?
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