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I kept hearing how dumb Bush was and how poorly he spoke so what Bush rhetoric? I prefer bea.gov, bls.gov, and the U.S. Treasury Dept. actual numbers to rhetoric. When I go to those sites I see a different picture of what was accomplished vs. what the media sold you. Those same sites show Obama to be a disaster so as badly as you want to divert to Clinton or Bush, results matter over rhetoric.
I"ve already said mulitple times that I'm not voting for Obama again unless his opponent is utterly useless. How much more can I look at results? I'M NOT VOTING FOR HIM. So stop telling me that I buy his rhetoric over his results, because I'm not supporting his re-election.
I think Obama's gift to America should be him losing the election :mrgreen:
Here is Bush's record in his last year in office:Vs. Obama, you bet!! Bush didn't have a net job loss, didn't have 25 million unemployed and under employed, didn't have a credit downgrade, and didn't oversee 4 trillion added to the debt in 3 years.
Year | Jan | Feb | Mar | Apr | May | Jun | Jul | Aug | Sep | Oct | Nov | Dec | Losses |
2008 | 137996 | 137913 | 137841 | 137656 | 137423 | 137245 | 137014 | 136747 | 136313 | 135804 | 135002 | 134383 | |
Job losses | -13 | -83 | -72 | -185 | -233 | -178 | -231 | -267 | -434 | -509 | -802 | -619 | -3626 |
Here is Bush's record in his last year in office:
Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Losses 2008 137996 137913 137841 137656 137423 137245 137014 136747 136313 135804 135002 134383 Job losses -13 -83 -72 -185 -233 -178 -231 -267 -434 -509 -802 -619 -3626
That argument fails when you realize that Obama had his economic policy implemented almost day one and was sold on the basis of shovel ready jobs.
He lied to you then and his Administration officials lied when they said passing the stimulus would keep unemployment at 8% so how did that "Hope and Change" work out for you.
You do realize that with the terrible 2008 numbers that Bushs still had a net job gain? As of today there are more unemployed, declining labor force as more and more drop out of the labor market due to dispair. This is 2 1/2 years later.
False. To say that Obama's economic policy began to be implemented on January 20, 2009 is, to put it nicely, complete BS.
PolitiFact | Obama says most job losses occurred before his economic policies took hold
I see, so Bush never "lied" about WMD's, but it's "lying" when Christine Romer and pretty much the whole economist community at large comes up with an inaccurate prediction.
Rather irrelevant, considering Bush was handed a relatively stable economy when he took office, whereas Obama was handed a steaming pile of **** from day one.
Your supreme addiction to causation vs. correlation logical fallacies remain unchanged, apparently.
Clinton was a better President than the last 2 clowns put together.
Here is Bush's record in his last year in office:
Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Losses 2008 137996 137913 137841 137656 137423 137245 137014 136747 136313 135804 135002 134383 Job losses -13 -83 -72 -185 -233 -178 -231 -267 -434 -509 -802 -619 -3626
Correct, the numbers you quoted from me were in 2008 when Bush was President.you all voted the dems into power not us
Correct, the numbers you quoted from me were in 2008 when Bush was President.
The stimulus didn't cause job loss, the Great Bush Recession did. Funny you haven't realized that its your rhetoric many of aren't buying.When was the stimulus passed? What was the prediction with that stimulus plan? stop buying the rhetoric as it is making you look foolish.
Do they teach civics in Oregon?
First of all, I am a native New Yorker - born, raised when to school there. Migrated to Oregon in 1972. Next, I don't believe anyone taught me that Congress controlled employment. For you to suggest that, make you look silly.:lamoDo they teach civics in Oregon? Democrats controlled the Congress which is the legislative process and purse strings. Seems you don't understand how our govt. works
The stimulus didn't cause job loss, the Great Bush Recession did. Funny you haven't realized that its your rhetoric many of aren't buying.
First of all, I am a native New Yorker - born, raised when to school there. Migrated to Oregon in 1972. Next, I don't believe anyone taught me that Congress controlled employment. For you to suggest that, make you look silly.:lamo
The finance meltdown/recession were caused by Bush's "hands off -get out of the way" policy. This was evident in the Deepwater disaster as well.Keep buying the Obama rhetoric while ignoring the Obama results. How about all those shovel ready jobs that were going to keep unemployment from exceeding 8%? Yep, seems like a lot of incompetence in this Administration that many still support. Seems that so called "Great Bush Recession" which started with a Democrat control of Congress still is in place today 2 1/2 years after Obama took office. Explain how Bush got back into the WH and created the numbers we see today?
The finance meltdown/recession were caused by Bush's "hands off -get out of the way" policy. This was evident in the Deepwater disaster as well.
Personally, I find it in bad taste that the President has a sense of humor in this time of global and domestic turmoil.
yeah that 4.9% unemployment rate looks pretty good right now
The seasonally adjusted unemployment rate rose from 4.2% in January 2001, peaking at 6.3% in June 2003 and reaching a trough of 4.4% in March 2007. After an economic slowdown, the rate rose again to 6.1% in August 2008 and up to 7.2% in December 2008. From December 2007 when the recession started to December 2008, an additional 3.6 million people became unemployed. And, as of January 1, 2009, his last month in office, the nation lost 655,000 jobs, raising the unemployment rate to 7.8%, the highest level in more than 15 years.
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