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If you claim to be Christian, but don't believe Jesus is God, are you really Christian?
If you claim to be a follower of Judism, but you don't observe the sabbath, are you really a follower of Judism?
If you claim to be Buddist, but you don't believe in karma or reincarnation, are you Buddist?
I think that's what Obama was saying. If you claim to be a follower of Islam, but you kill innocent children, are you really a follower of Islam? Obama is saying that ISIL is not because they do not actually follow important Islamic teachings.
Now you jump from a few thousand to a few hundred million.
This is as blatant of a misstatement as one can make.
You have just indicted a quarter of the Muslim population as supporting violence against children,
with no evidence since you know that no evidence exists for such an outrageous claim .
Most terrorists have been quite well educated yet hat doesn't seem to have made a difference. And many who deflect from the dangers of ISL may be quite well educated also but, unfortunately, an education cannot always cure stupid.The people are poorly educated in these areas and easily swayed (brain washed) by superstitious beliefs and supercilious, morality based governing.
ISIS is to Islam as Westboro is to Christianity.
The majority of posters in this thread support violence on civilians. What's your point?When the majority of them support violence against civilians, and you have a few hundred million of them that are willing to carry it out... Sort of a cause for alarm don't you think?
I'd like to see some support for these claims you're making.I don't want to say that anything is inherently good or bad, I don't think that's true, but magical thinking, especially the kind of magical thinking held by the adamantly religious, doesn't lead to intelligent, rational, critical thinking, based on evidence and real-world goals. We see that with radical, evangelical Christians today, people who say to cut down all the forests, pollute the environment, destroy everything because Jesus is coming back anyhow, why not? These people are dangerous idiots.
Absolutely, if you're speaking about their relation to the more common "moderate" sect of said religion within the world as opposed to directly comparing them (Westboro is disgusting...I'll take 1000 protests outside of funerals and ignorant claims of what god hates over one beheading for being an infidel of some sort)
And it would be ridiculous to say that Westboro Baptist Church isn't Christian.
It's a fundamentalist, skewed, hateful brand of Christian followers, but they're Christian. Acknowledging that doesn't speak negatively about Christianity or condemn all Christians, it simply recognizes the reality of what they consider themselves.
The majority of posters in this thread support violence on civilians. What's your point?
Good point! But they did not participate, or film them for political gain.And how many beheadings and acts of barbaric terrorism has Westboro "indirectly" incited ?
Most terrorists have been quite well educated yet hat doesn't seem to have made a difference. And many who deflect from the dangers of ISL may be quite well educated also but, unfortunately, an education cannot always cure stupid.
I would say 'many', at least on this thread. There seems to be quite a few deflecting from the topic of "ISIL Is Not Islamic" to the subject of Christianity. Why would that be?Many? I doubt that very seriously, maybe a handful of leaders and technicians. Education doesn't cure the type of stupid rampart in that part of the world, but enough people with some desire for prosperity and knowledge would help.
I would say 'many', at least on this thread. There seems to be quite a few deflecting from the topic of "ISIL Is Not Islamic" to the subject of Christianity. Why would that be?
Yet at the funerals of our fallen soldiers,Good point! But they did not participate, or film them for political gain.
Some of their other tactics are almost as distasteful.
Without Christianity, Westboro Baptist Church wouldn't exist.
If only ISIS were as dangerous as the Westboro Baptist Church...
When you can prove that large numbers of people of Christian faiths support the actions/efforts of the KKK just as large numbers of people of Islamic and Muslim faiths support the actions/efforts of ISIL/ISIS/IS then you might have a point.
Well it is at least clear that you wish to wage war on the entire religion of 1.6 billion followers. That is just nuts.
What? You think this thread is full of islamic fundies? :lamo
But he's so eloquent....
It's amazing that he has such a hard time saying what he really means.
Any of them advocating attacks against ISIL.Which posters support violence on civilians?
Oh, did you ever read the Qur'an? All over the world it's MUSLIMS killing their neighbors be they Jewish, Christian or other Muslims. People like you like keep defending the savages until your bowing to the east. Wake up. They want us all dead.
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Who said that? Don't you even try to appear intelligent?
Are ISL 'civilians'?Any of them advocating attacks against ISIL.
Didn't you say that, which doesn't really question my intellect.
You said "most terrorists have been quite well educated."
I said, "Many? I doubt that very seriously, maybe a handful of leaders and technicians."
Then you said "I would say 'many', at least on this thread."
You think this thread has many terrorists?
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