Obama calls for mandatory voting in U.S. [W:166, W:190]

[Kobie]

Oh it was proposed alright. Obama through out a trial balloon and of course your totally on board. All liberal loyalist are on board, yeah Obama make all those that don't want to vote to vote. He'll get all those dead beats out of bed to vote for the Dems and then go back to sleep until 3 in the afternoon. Don't vote for those Pubs they will want you to work, we don't want that, we have entitlements and free stuff for you.

And Obama was leading up to this when he got hammered in the last election where he lost more of the house and the senate. He mentioned then not everyone voted.

Here is what he said at a press conference, he hinted at it then as an excuse for losing the senate and more of the house. So he as been looking at this, exactly as he said it.

Part of what I also think we’ve got to look at is the two-thirds of people who were eligible to vote and just didn’t vote. You know, one of the things that I’m very proud of in 2008 and 2012, when I ran for office, was we got people involved who hadn’t been involved before. We got folks to vote who hadn’t voted before: particularly young people. And -- and that was part of the promise.

Transcript: President Obama

What Obama is doing is no surprise after he got hammered again. Now he is looking at trying to make those tow-thirds of voters who were eligible to vote and just didn't vote, to force them to vote. Once again the liberal way, if we don't get what we want, force them into submission. And of course you liberals love big government power over the people.

Yeah, I'm totally on board! That's why I voted "no" in the poll thread.

 

[Born Free]

Yeah, I'm totally on board! That's why I voted "no" in the poll thread.

Kobie as hard as you try to through people off, you are as far left a liberal there is. You love government power over the people.

 

[Kobie]

Kobie as hard as you try to through people off, you are as far left a liberal there is. You love government power over the people.

Continuing to repeat it doesn't make it any more true. But it is entertaining watching you attempt to tell me what I believe. Please, keep trying.

 

[Hatuey]

You have anchored your argument on semantics. "did he straight up say...". This is the last refuge of someone deep in denial and incapable of admitting the truth. So please, by all means keep it up. Flailing is fun to watch.

Your mind reading really is impressive. Can you tell us what else Obama was really saying that he didn't actually say?

 

[Hatuey]

Chosen with a low voter turn out. Almost meaningless.

... as opposed to the 2014 elections, where voter turnout was a whopping 36%.

 

[Renae]

Your mind reading really is impressive. Can you tell us what else Obama was really saying that he didn't actually say?

What we hear, and you hear is different. You hear hope and change, we hear lies and deceit. We see numerous instances of this behavior, you see "order and goodness". You and those like you are why tyrants arise, you excuse the lies, the bs as long as it meets your political dogma.

Obama has been secretive, outright dishonest, believes in dictating peoples behavior through government mandates, outrageous claims to support his rhetoric and ignoring history.

You, get a thrill up your leg and beg for more.

Get out of here with your fawning bs.

 

[Hatuey]

What we hear, and you hear is different.

I didn't actually hear him. I read his words. You didn't hear him either. Now, I don't care what you think you read. I care about what he actually said. Did he or did he not call for mandatory voting? If so, show the exact quotation where he did that. If you can't do it, admit that you can't, and move along. It will save you the embarrassment.

 

[Renae]

I didn't actually hear him. I read his words. You didn't hear him either. Now, I don't care what you think you read. I care about what he actually said. Did he or did he not call for mandatory voting? If so, show the exact quotation where he did that. If you can't do it, admit that you can't, and move along. It will save you the embarrassment.

No no, you heard his words, in a bubble, like so many apologist, there is no statement Obama makes that doesn't fill you with wonder and make your legs tingle.

If Obama had said this, in his first year, chances are at most... it would have raised some eyebrows and garner a headline on WND.

Today, it's part of a long string of actions, deeds and "commentary" from the man that show someone who has a real disdain for what this country is, and what his vision for a better America would be. Control, commands from the elite dictating the lives of the "lesser people" for the "greater good. That's the REAL Obama vision, and you baa baa to his tune.

 

[Hatuey]

No no, you heard his words

I didn't hear them as I wasn't actually there. I'm asking you for the last time to show us the exact quotation where he calls for mandatory voting in the US. If you can't, admit that you can't. It will save you a lot of pain. You're already on your second post trying to avoid showing the exact quote. It's not looking good.

 

[Kobie]

I didn't hear them as I wasn't actually there. I'm asking you for the last time to show us the exact quotation where he calls for mandatory voting in the US. If you can't, admit that you can't. It will save you a lot of pain. You're already on your second post trying to avoid showing the exact quote. It's not looking good.

I've been asking for that for what, three days?

 

[Hatuey]

I've been asking for that for what, three days?

Oh, it's called the Stinger Shuffle. There once was a poster on this board named Stinger. He would make claims about what he'd read, and then when he was asked to present them, the posters would spend weeks avoiding have to answer the question. You'd ask a normal question concerning what the thread is all about and he'd get on these long rants about how you're partisan and he sees right through you. This was all an attempt to avoid having to answer the question. We'll see how long MrVicchio can last. My guess? He'll probably write more posts about how partisan we are for asking him to provide evidence of what he's claiming and then he'll disappear from the thread. A more likely possibility is that he'll drag this on for at least 2 weeks, never answer and claim some sort of victory.

 

[Renae]

I didn't hear them as I wasn't actually there. I'm asking you for the last time to show us the exact quotation where he calls for mandatory voting in the US. If you can't, admit that you can't. It will save you a lot of pain. You're already on your second post trying to avoid showing the exact quote. It's not looking good.

Oh, the goal posts, they move, if he didn't specifically call for it, we can just ignore it!

The exact quote was, like much of Obama's rhetoric, the stuff you and the other Obama sycophants get giddy about. He opined that instead of changing the Constitution to restrict freedom of speech, it would be better to just mandate compulsory voting. Now, if you haven't figured what he's doing there, it's because you are either oblivious to reality or intentionally ignoring reality.

So far, I'm leaning towards intentionally, because you know damned well he was voicing a preferred solution, and it blew up in his face.

You and Kobie are free to fap over your attempt to frame this as "He didn't actually CALL for it, he just said it was a really good idea so..." angle, the rest of us will just mock you for it.

 

[Hatuey]

Oh, the goal posts, they move, if he didn't specifically call for it, we can just ignore it!

I asked you for the quote where he called for them. The goalposts aren't moved. They're exactly where you set them. Can you show us the exact quote where he called for mandatory voting, Mr. Vicchio?

This is now the 3rd post where you avoid having to actually post the supposed "call for mandatory voting". You'd save yourself the long posts if you simply posted the call for mandatory voting, or you admitted that he didn't actually call for them.

 

[Renae]

I asked you for the quote where he called for them. The goalposts aren't moved. They're exactly where you set them. Can you show us the exact quote where he called for mandatory voting, Mr. Vicchio?

This is now the 3rd post where you avoid having to actually post the supposed "call for mandatory voting". You'd save yourself the long posts if you simply posted the call for mandatory voting, or you admitted that he didn't actually call for them.

I didn't write the title of the article, and numerous outlets DID say that, take that up with them Hatuey. If Bush had said "You know what would bring this country together? Compulsory Christian Ministries in schools..."

I hardly think you'd be asking "Where did he CALL for" and I'd join you in mocking anyone who did.

You're hanging this on the OP Title, from the news article, that was followed along with by most of the press. Because unlike you, they realize his statement was a "trial balloon" idea he'd REALLY like to have happen.

So Go ahead, hack away at this, it's amusing.

 

[jet57]

For liberals, freedom is mandatory enforced behaviors.

And church is - what?

 

[RedAkston]

Moderator's Warning:

Knock off the personal attacks now. If you can't discuss the issue without attacking each other, you will be removed from the discussion and most likely given points as well.

 

[Hatuey]

I didn't write the title of the article

I know you didn't. You did however agree with it. So I'm asking you to show where Obama made calls for mandatory voting. This is now the 5th post where you completely refuse to show where Obama called for mandatory voting. Can you show us where he called for mandatory voting? Yes or no answer. I'm not here to read about what you think you read or what you feel Obama was really saying. I'm here to see Obama's call for mandatory voting. Can you show the quote?

 

[Kobie]

Oh, the goal posts, they move, if he didn't specifically call for it, we can just ignore it!

The exact quote was, like much of Obama's rhetoric, the stuff you and the other Obama sycophants get giddy about. He opined that instead of changing the Constitution to restrict freedom of speech, it would be better to just mandate compulsory voting. Now, if you haven't figured what he's doing there, it's because you are either oblivious to reality or intentionally ignoring reality.

So far, I'm leaning towards intentionally, because you know damned well he was voicing a preferred solution, and it blew up in his face.

You and Kobie are free to fap over your attempt to frame this as "He didn't actually CALL for it, he just said it was a really good idea so..." angle, the rest of us will just mock you for it.

He never even said it was a good idea.

 

[Kobie]

I didn't write the title of the article, and numerous outlets DID say that, take that up with them Hatuey. If Bush had said "You know what would bring this country together? Compulsory Christian Ministries in schools..."

I hardly think you'd be asking "Where did he CALL for" and I'd join you in mocking anyone who did.

You're hanging this on the OP Title, from the news article, that was followed along with by most of the press. Because unlike you, they realize his statement was a "trial balloon" idea he'd REALLY like to have happen.

So Go ahead, hack away at this, it's amusing.

I hesitate to call anything from the Moonie Times a "news article."

 

[MAGAnificent]

However he did advocate it, Kobie. Compulsive voting is an authoritarian concept.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Never did I say any such thing.

I have continually pointed out that UHC is most likely not feasible because there's no presidence for that type of nationalization.

But America did choose the uncivilized route long ago and I say that unabashedly, you're the only developed country without UHC and almost no developing country would choose your model... Because it sucks and it's too expensive.

We really do not care what healthcare models other countries choose to adopt. We do not lay awake at night wishing we could be like everyone else. Universal healthcare run or enforced by government is an incredibly stupid concept.

 

[MAGAnificent]

By the time it became mandatory, it would no longer be unconstitutional as it would be a passed law. I don't believe anywhere in the constitution does it comment on the requirements for individual voting rules or regs. That's not the problem, the problem to begin with is that there is no federal standard for voting accessibility, early voting, absentee voting, etc. That would have to be resolved first, and I doubt the stupid ass states that are trying to screw poor and non-whites out of reasonable voting options would go along with federal regulations on such. That's the first step though.

Sport....it would take a constitutional amendment to make compulsory voting stick. And that's not going to happen. And you can dispense with the "states trying to screw poor and non-whites out of voting options" nonsense. It makes you look small.

 

[Kobie]

However he did advocate it, Kobie. Compulsive voting is an authoritarian concept.

No, he did not. All he did was say it would drastically alter the electoral landscape, which is undoubtedly true.

 

[MAGAnificent]

No, he did not. All he did was say it would drastically alter the electoral landscape, which is undoubtedly true.

He advocated it.

 

[Kobie]

He advocated it.

No, he did not, unless you care to provide the exact quote in which he did. In three days, not a one of you guys has been able to do so.