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The president has said he keeps a check list of promises he made during the campaign in his pocket. Last fall Mr. Obama told "Rolling Stone" he figured his administration had "probably accomplished 70 percent of the things that we said we were going to do."
The watchdog organization Politifact.com* has been keeping track and puts candidate Obama's list of promises at a staggering 506, of those they say the president has kept 122, or 24 percent. Coincidentally, of the 25 selected as the most significant promises, politifact.com says Obama has followed through on six, for a 'promise-kept percentage' of 24 percent.
That's an increase of 1.8 million. With a smaller population and a smaller work force, Bush saw that number increase by more than 2 million when you voted to give him another 4 years.Is this really the record you are proud of?
Unemployed + Discouraged
2008 8095 7831 8194 8043 8797 8980 9356 9890 10036 10656 11225 12042
2009 12653 13445 13995 14556 15310 15514 15330 15751 15865 16420 16201 16196
2010 15902 16075 15999 16457 16056 15830 15784 15970 15976 16062 16401 15803
2011 14856 14693 14463
14.463 million people unemployed in March 2011 vs 12.653 unemployed on January 2009 when Obama took over. Now you can post percentage change all day long but when you ignore discouraged workers who have dropped out of the labor force you are being disengenuous and a typical Obama supporter who will do anything to prop up the empty suit.
That's an increase of 1.8 million. With a smaller population and a smaller work force, Bush saw that number increase by more than 2 million when you voted to give him another 4 years.
I hope you can understand the implication of that against the background of your complaints.
If Obama were the person who was responsibe for this, I wouldn't be. However, he is not nor is any president. You want to make it rellivant, because you don't like him. You say the same things over and over and over and over. I can Google the numbers you post and you posts show up first on the list. Don't you get ****ing tired of doing this? Jesus H. Christ give it a rest man!!!Is this really the record you are proud of?
Unemployed + Discouraged
2008 8095 7831 8194 8043 8797 8980 9356 9890 10036 10656 11225 12042
2009 12653 13445 13995 14556 15310 15514 15330 15751 15865 16420 16201 16196
2010 15902 16075 15999 16457 16056 15830 15784 15970 15976 16062 16401 15803
2011 14856 14693 14463
14.463 million people unemployed in March 2011 vs 12.653 unemployed on January 2009 when Obama took over. Now you can post percentage change all day long but when you ignore discouraged workers who have dropped out of the labor force you are being disengenuous and a typical Obama supporter who will do anything to prop up the empty suit.
awwww..how cute....and this proves what exactly?.......
If Obama were the person who was responsibe for this, I wouldn't be. However, he is not nor is any president. You want to make it rellivant, because you don't like him. You say the same things over and over and over and over. I can Google the numbers you post and you posts show up first on the list. Don't you get ****ing tired of doing this? Jesus H. Christ give it a rest man!!!
you seem to lack the ability to see anything past the end of your nose....you speak of 'logic and common sense', but you have shown neither, you post raw data from your government sites, without understanding the 'how' or 'why' those numbers are what they are...you see 'obama bad', and run with it....you post vids from youtube, as if somehow they mean something, or prove your point...congrats, you found 2 people who think like you do, way to go!!!:roll: you don't like obama because he is a democrat, and you, as a far right republican, have been conditioned to see the term 'democrat' as equal to 'evil'...you spout republican 'talking points' straight from the republican playbook, terms or phrases such as ' intentions of the founding fathers' (as if you have a phone line to the hereafter, and can speak to the founding fathers) 'foundation this country was built on', 'liberalism is destroying the country'...'socialist'... you say alot, without really saying anything at all.Seems that I have to say the same thing over and over again as many here don't seem to have the logic and common sense to comprehend that results matter, not rhetoric. You are wrong, I like him personally, a good family man but a man with a leftwing agenda that is trying to destroy the foundation upon which this country was built. His economic results are terrible based upon the amount he has thrown at the problem. You seem to lack the ability to see that.
you seem to lack the ability to see anything past the end of your nose....you speak of 'logic and common sense', but you have shown neither, you post raw data from your government sites, without understanding the 'how' or 'why' those numbers are what they are...you see 'obama bad', and run with it....you post vids from youtube, as if somehow they mean something, or prove your point...congrats, you found 2 people who think like you do, way to go!!!:roll: you don't like obama because he is a democrat, and you, as a far right republican, have been conditioned to see the term 'democrat' as equal to 'evil'...you spout republican 'talking points' straight from the republican playbook, terms or phrases such as ' intentions of the founding fathers' (as if you have a phone line to the hereafter, and can speak to the founding fathers) 'foundation this country was built on', 'liberalism is destroying the country'...'socialist'... you say alot, without really saying anything at all.
Tell me these costs are a phony number
Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2010 will give you the debt by fiscal year. Raising the debt over 4 trillion dollars obviously is a phony number to you.
Current Debt Held by the Public Intragovernmental Holdings Total Public Debt Outstanding
04/04/2011 9,650,003,952,066.04 4,593,927,612,150.53 14,243,931,564,216.57
Why do you always try and change the subject when facts get brought up?
you can't explain or teach anything to someone(you in this case) who is unwilling to learnAnxiously await for you to explain the results to me then since obviously I am getting them wrong. Apparently this is totally partisan and doesn't matter that I grew up a Democrat and was a Democrat until the party left me. Now when you address the results I posted then we can discuss them and you can explain to me where I am wrong. If not then just continue on with your diversions, distortions and non responses.
you can't explain or teach anything to someone(you in this case) who is unwilling to learn
Did you read the post I was responding to. where are the phony numbers that were claimed that I made here? I suggest you act like a moderator and stop focusing on my posts and doing the baiting.
you can't explain or teach anything to someone(you in this case) who is unwilling to learn
Yes, you responded to my post with something completely unrelated to what I said.
the teachers have been up to the task, but, when the student is so hard headed, and refuses to do their homework, there is only so much the teacher can do.Sometimes learning isn't the issue, perhaps it's an inadequate teacher.
Sometimes learning isn't the issue, perhaps it's an inadequate teacher.
the teachers have been up to the task, but, when the student is so hard headed, and refuses to do their homework, there is only so much the teacher can do.
Did you read the post I was responding to. where are the phony numbers that were claimed that I made here? I suggest you act like a moderator and stop focusing on my posts and doing the baiting.
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if he did tell you that you were missing something, you wouldnt believe him...lolLet me know if I am missing something here with randel because I have yet to see any effort to teach anyone anything from him.
How the hell do you think I believe the population hasn't grown based upon what I said?? Do you need new reading glasses or is your problem more cerebral?That's an increase of 1.8 million. With a smaller population and a smaller work force, Bush saw that number increase by more than 2 million when you voted to give him another 4 years.
I hope you can understand the implication of that against the background of your complaints.
Increase over what? So you believe population hasn't grown?
Why did you? At this point in Bush's first term, he lost 2.7 million jobs, when adding unemployment numbers with discouraged workers, yet you voted for him anyway. Compared to Obama who lost 1.7 million. And unlike Obama, Bush did not inherit the Great Recession. Now you say Obama doesn't deserve 4 more years even though you voted to give Bush 4 more years.Tell me why you support someone who has less employment today than when he took office and it remains down with a growing population and after spending over a trillion dollars?
Based on that, I guess you must think Conservatism is a failure because Bush's numbers were far worse, and during his first 26 months, he had a Republican House the entire time and a Republican Senate for 1/3 of that period. And by the way, the 2.7 million jobs Bush lost during his first 26 months came after he cut taxes twice. Once in 2001 and then again in 2002. Employing your logic, Conservatism is a failure.I understand that nothing is going to change your mind and that you look at having 1.8 million less employed today than when he took office is a victory for liberalism but really is a failure
How the hell do you think I believe the population hasn't grown based upon what I said?? Do you need new reading glasses or is your problem more cerebral?
Why did you? At this point in Bush's first term, he lost 2.7 million jobs, when adding unemployment numbers with discouraged workers, yet you voted for him anyway. Compared to Obama who lost 1.7 million. And unlike Obama, Bush did not inherit the Great Recession. Now you say Obama doesn't deserve 4 more years even though you voted to give Bush 4 more years.
Based on that, I guess you must think Conservatism is a failure because Bush's numbers were far worse, and during his first 26 months, he had a Republican House the entire time and a Republican Senate for 1/3 of that period. And by the way, the 2.7 million jobs Bush lost during his first 26 months came after he cut taxes twice. Once in 2001 and then again in 2002. Employing your logic, Conservatism is a failure.
Where do you get that Bush's numbers were far worse, here are the employment numbers for Bush's first term which show more employed at the end of his first term than when he took office. Can you say the same about Obama? Looks to me like you are the one confused, 140.1 million in December 2004 is higher than 137.8 when he took office. Guess math isn't a strong subject for you.
2001 137778 137612 137783 137299 137092 136873 137071 136241 136846 136392 136238 136047
2002 135701 136438 136177 136126 136539 136415 136413 136705 137302 137008 136521 136426
2003 137417 137482 137434 137633 137544 137790 137474 137549 137609 137984 138424 138411
2004 138472 138542 138453 138680 138852 139174 139556 139573 139487 139732 140231 140125
Apparently success in your world is spending over a trillion dollars to get less employment than when a liberal takes office?
you seem to lack the ability to see anything past the end of your nose....you speak of 'logic and common sense', but you have shown neither, you post raw data from your government sites, without understanding the 'how' or 'why' those numbers are what they are...you see 'obama bad', and run with it....you post vids from youtube, as if somehow they mean something, or prove your point...congrats, you found 2 people who think like you do, way to go!!!:roll: you don't like obama because he is a democrat, and you, as a far right republican, have been conditioned to see the term 'democrat' as equal to 'evil'...you spout republican 'talking points' straight from the republican playbook, terms or phrases such as ' intentions of the founding fathers' (as if you have a phone line to the hereafter, and can speak to the founding fathers) 'foundation this country was built on', 'liberalism is destroying the country'...'socialist'... you say alot, without really saying anything at all.
awwww..how special, someone showed you how to highlight a word....so proud of youLOL!
what was the topic again?
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