Neither of those governors is seeking to take collective bargaining away - only wage concessions.
Republicans were in charge of the Congress, and more precisely, in charge of the committees that Frank and Dodd sat on. Republicans were in charge, why are you blaming two members of the minority party for not passing legislation when it was Republicans who were in control?
If you don't know what led to the recession, I really can't help you. But the damage was from the mortgage crisis, of which the majority of damage occurred before Democrats took over in 2007. That's like you lending me your car and then blaming me for a flat tire after you put 50,000 miles on it and it wore out while I'm driving on it.
Who gave it to Clinton? Now while I hold Clinton responsible for signing it, I also hold the Republican-led Congress responsible for giving it to him to sign. All you're doing is exactly what CaptainCourtesy pointed out you're doing. You're blaming the Democrats and not the Republicans and you're seeking out which branch of government they control at any given time to assign your blame. You couldn't be more transparent if you were Barack Obama.
LOL!
who's talking about collective bargaining
we were discussing budgets
and have you SEEN california and new york?
ouch!
it's a lot more than wage concessions, too, i'm afraid
it's gonna add up to a couple hundred thousand jobs, once you factor in illinois, michigan, ohio, wisconsin, jersey, indiana...
While Republicans were in charge, there was no bill that even made to the point it could have been filibuster. What a lame-ass excuse.No, it takes 60 votes to get most legislation through the Senate and the Republicans did not have what Obama had last in 2009-2010, overwhelming numbers and 60 votes in the Senate
OK. So, then you would agree that the problems with the economy prior to 2008 are the fault of Bush and the problems with the economy after 2008 are the fault of Obama. Glad we have that straight.
While Republicans were in charge, there was no bill that even made to the point it could have been filibuster. What a lame-ass excuse.
Republicans were in charge, why are you blaming two members of the minority party?
straight?
LOL!
it doesn't look like it
it's a little more complicated, friend
maybe we should start here:
Obama’s 2012 Budget: $1.65 Trillion Deficit -- Daily Intel
GOP Budget Proposal Seeks To Make $4 Trillion-Plus In Cuts
Republicans were in charge of the Congress, and more precisely, in charge of the committees that Frank and Dodd sat on. Republicans were in charge, why are you blaming two members of the minority party for not passing legislation when it was Republicans who were in control?
If you don't know what led to the recession, I really can't help you. But the damage was from the mortgage crisis, of which the majority of damage occurred before Democrats took over in 2007. That's like you lending me your car and then blaming me for a flat tire after you put 50,000 miles on it and it wore out while I'm driving on it.
Who gave it to Clinton? Now while I hold Clinton responsible for signing it, I also hold the Republican-led Congress responsible for giving it to him to sign. All you're doing is exactly what CaptainCourtesy pointed out you're doing. You're blaming the Democrats and not the Republicans and you're seeking out which branch of government they control at any given time to assign your blame. You couldn't be more transparent if you were Barack Obama.
Its pointless with him Sheik Yerbuti he seem to be blinded by his hackish self. I will admit, when I'm wrong, however he will not admit it when he is wrong.
What reforms were drafted and where did the Democrats filibuster reform?
Wait... so now you are saying that Congress has a hand in the economy?
Btw... as to the actual topic of the thread... I want to see who the GOP presents. If it is one of the idiots (Palin, Bachman, or Gingrich) Obama will have my vote. Anyone reasonable I will give consideration to. And by reasonable, I don't mean Paul.
Do you remember when Phil Gramm said we are a nation of whiners???
you STILL have to ask?
LOL!
This is true... but it's fun pointing it out.
lol I agree it is fun CC but it does get a hell of a lot of time when I could be debating with reasonable people like yourself CC.
Its pointless with him Sheik Yerbuti he seem to be blinded by his hackish self. I will admit, when I'm wrong, however he will not admit it when he is wrong.
lol I agree it is fun CC but it does get a hell of a lot of time when I could be debating with reasonable people like yourself CC.
Well, which is it?
I'm aware of that and have experienced it first hand. Just the other day he made the fallacious claim that Bush created 6.5 million jobs. Even after I proved him wrong, he refused to acknowledge it.Its pointless with him Sheik Yerbuti he seem to be blinded by his hackish self. I will admit, when I'm wrong, however he will not admit it when he is wrong.
True. I gotta get back to work, anyway. Keep 'em on the ropes, RH.
Sure do. Seems it's solely Clinton's fault that he signed Gramm's bill.Do you remember when Phil Gramm said we are a nation of whiners???
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