This corrupt piece of legislative dung should be flushed.Lawyers for President Barack Obama go to court on Tuesday to try to save the cornerstone of his healthcare overhaul, arguing that the requirement for Americans to buy insurance is constitutional.
U.S. District Judge Henry Hudson in Virginia last year ruled that Congress exceeded its authority by forcing Americans to buy health insurance...
Two federal judges have struck it down, including one who found the entire law unconstitutional in a challenge by 26 states...
Obama administration fights to save healthcare law | Reuters
Anyone opposing AffordableCare is either a stooge for the plutocrats or a dupe. We need this law. It is the only way America can prosper. Without it, American companies will continue to export jobs and that means economic devastation for all Americans.
Anyone opposing AffordableCare is either a stooge for the plutocrats or a dupe. We need this law. It is the only way America can prosper. Without it, American companies will continue to export jobs and that means economic devastation for all Americans.
Anyone opposing AffordableCare is either a stooge for the plutocrats or a dupe. We need this law. It is the only way America can prosper. Without it, American companies will continue to export jobs and that means economic devastation for all Americans.
OMG DUDE FOR REAL, 15 GLASSES OF KOOLAID IS ENOUGH FOR ONE MORNING. :shock:
Noone is able to "get out" of the law. They are only able to postpone having to follow it for a short time. It was smart of the Obama admin to have this waiver process for anyone that needs more time to comply. It's a common process with many laws. At the end of the day it will apply to unions also so i don't know why any honest person would complain that it favors unions when there are businesses that are receiving the exact same waiver.The only people allowed to get out of this disaster are those that want everyone else locked into it with no way out.....Nice.
j-mac
Noone is able to "get out" of the law. They are only able to postpone having to follow it for a short time. It was smart of the Obama admin to have this waiver process for anyone that needs more time to comply. It's a common process with many laws. At the end of the day it will apply to unions also so i don't know why any honest person would complain that it favors unions when there are businesses that are receiving the exact same waiver.
If this law is everything liberals say it is, and that it should go further, then why are businesses, and unions opting for waivers in the first place?
j-mac
You realize he already answered your question, right?
Because they need more time to search for plans that would qualify under the law.If this law is everything liberals say it is, and that it should go further, then why are businesses, and unions opting for waivers in the first place?
j-mac
Appearently not. If he had I wouldn't be asking. He said this is normal to allow Business time to adjust to the law, I understand that, but my question is that if this law was to do what Obama said it would in lowering the cost for these businesses, then why would you need time to adjust? Adjust to what? Increasing profit?
See that is just one area where they are lying to you.
j-mac
Appearently not. If he had I wouldn't be asking. He said this is normal to allow Business time to adjust to the law, I understand that, but my question is that if this law was to do what Obama said it would in lowering the cost for these businesses, then why would you need time to adjust? Adjust to what? Increasing profit?
See that is just one area where they are lying to you.
j-mac
There are plenty of other procedures that could have been taken to help eliminate excessive costs of health care, what we are stuck with today is merely an insurance reform, not health care.Anyone opposing AffordableCare is either a stooge for the plutocrats or a dupe. We need this law. It is the only way America can prosper. Without it, American companies will continue to export jobs and that means economic devastation for all Americans.
Where did anyone claim that the healthcare bill would instantly save businesses lots of money? Maybe someone argued that it would reduce how much healthcare costs rise over time but I haven't heard anyone claim that it would save businesses lots of money.
(CNSNews.com) – President Barack Obama claims his budget plan will achieve “well over $1 trillion” in savings by building on the cost savings found in his signature health care law. There is “little evidence,” however, that the so-called health care reforms will ever save any money, according to the Congressional Budget Office.
“Building on the Affordable Care Act, the President is proposing additional reforms to Medicare and Medicaid designed to strengthen these critical programs by reducing waste, increasing accountability, promoting efficiency, and improving the quality of care,” Obama’s budget blueprint says, without offering any specifics.
“Over the subsequent decade, the President’s proposal will save well over $1 trillion by further bending the cost curve, doubling the savings from the Affordable Care Act.”
However, CBO already has reviewed provisions in the Affordable Care Act that purport to bring down health care spending – what Obama calls “bending the cost curve” – and found little evidence they will bear fruit.
‘Little Evidence’ to Back-Up Obama’s Cost-Savings Claims | CNSnews.com
Looks like even if I give you the benefit of the doubt and say over time, as you say that isn't true either....
Awwwww....Too bad. maybe its time to strong arm Elmendorf some more....Sounds like he is straying from the reservation again....
hahahahaha!
j-mac
Appearently not. If he had I wouldn't be asking. He said this is normal to allow Business time to adjust to the law, I understand that, but my question is that if this law was to do what Obama said it would in lowering the cost for these businesses, then why would you need time to adjust? Adjust to what? Increasing profit?
See that is just one area where they are lying to you.
j-mac
Noone is able to "get out" of the law. They are only able to postpone having to follow it for a short time. It was smart of the Obama admin to have this waiver process for anyone that needs more time to comply. It's a common process with many laws. At the end of the day it will apply to unions also so i don't know why any honest person would complain that it favors unions when there are businesses that are receiving the exact same waiver.
There are plenty of other procedures that could have been taken to help eliminate excessive costs of health care, what we are stuck with today is merely an insurance reform, not health care.
What would be smart is to get government out of the healthkare business. It's a Communist System with Communist results.
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Speaking of extreme hyperbole . . . . :coffeepap
MF: Yes, in the field of medical care. We have a socialist-communist system of distributing medical care. Instead of letting people hire their own physicians and pay them, no one pays his or her own medical bills. Instead, there's a third party payment system. It is a communist system and it has a communist result. Despite this, we've had numerous miracles in medical science. From the discovery of penicillin, to new surgical techniques, to MRIs and CAT scans, the last 30 or 40 years have been a period of miraculous change in medical science. On the other hand, we've seen costs skyrocket. Nobody is happy: physicians don't like it, patients don't like it. Why? Because none of them are responsible for themselves. You no longer have a situation in which a patient chooses a physician, receives a service, gets charged, and pays for it. There is no direct relation between the patient and the physician. The physician is an employee of an insurance company or an employee of the government. Today, a third party pays the bills. As a result, no one who visits the doctor asks what the charge is going to be—somebody else is going to take care of that. The end result is third party payment and, worst of all, third party treatment.
Hillsdale College - Imprimis Issue
He was talking about insurance companies, not government.ROTFLOL... I merely paraphrased Milton Friedman (see below), and he and his Chicago School and Austrian School of Economics have a pretty good record, and Milton Friedman calls the system Socialist-Communist and Communist. It is what it is.
Would you like to try again?
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He was talking about insurance companies, not government.
Seriously, is it that hard to read your own source? Lord.
Do you understand the difference between the countries budget and deficit and a businesses budget and profits?Obama links his health care plan to budget, and deficit constantly, now you want them seperated at will, which highlights the dishonesty of his, and liberal arguments on the subject...Much like taxing the rich more will solve all problems.
j-mac
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