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… Many times I have heard arguments against information "piracy" about how it costs information companies a great deal of profit and also contributes to job loss. …
… I sign no contracts when I purchase an item like a DVD or CD.
It is sufficient that the little c with the circle around it (©) with the year is present on the packaging and/or the label.
You heard that unauthorized copying costs publishers profit and contributes to job loss and … what?
Do you think that debatepolitics generates intellectual property? I thought of it more as a service. Does debatepolitics copyright its threads? I don't think so. But, do go on …
Reality presents a different story.
All you will do by restricting online file sharing, is make the bootleggers popular again.
Either way, the RIAA/MPAA isn't going to get what they want.
We can wish that little ©'s make an item protected but it doesn't.
Does debatepolitics copyright its threads? I don't think so.
... that the little c with the circle around it (©) with the year is present...
Debate Politics.com Copyright ©2004-2010
Do you think that your endorsement of unauthorized copying in contravention of the law impacts others? I do.
Do you think that your endorsement of unauthorized copying in contravention of the law impacts others? I do.
According to the Obama administration, the RIAA, and MPAA, the world economy is pretty much doomed if we don't start prosecuting pirates at home and abroad. Without such a crackdown, businesses will go bankrupt the coalition argues. Biden states, "Piracy hurts, it hurts our economy."
Interestingly, the statements seem to fly in the face of a recent Government Accountability Office study released to U.S. Congress earlier this year, which concluded that there is virtually no evidence for the claimed million dollar losses by the entertainment industry. That study suggested that piracy could even benefit the economy.
It speaks of improved "law enforcement efforts at the Federal, state and local level."
And by mentioning cut profits and job loss, I continued my argument against the principles of intellectual property aggression by addressing the possible (if not evident, which, it is) profit cuts and job loss that publishers, advertisers and individuals suffer thanks to intellectual property aggression.
I'm not talking about debatepolitics.com's intellectual property aggression being infringed upon. I'm talking about the premise where debatepolitics.com infringes on someone else's intellectual property aggression.
Now - I do side with him on this.
I don't like the idea of someone being a techy-sneaky **** and getting away with what a proper person (like me) DOES pay for because I believe in living by the law.
… Government and business shouldn't be in bed together.
Spoken like a true Libertarian. I give you credit for that. I am surprised at the total rejection of centuries old copyright law, though. I thought Libertarians were all about the law and the courts, but, hey, there you go, we all have our little blind spots.
Also, blaming the state of the world economy on piracy is probably the biggest joke I've heard the RIAA dish out so far.
Wouldn't you like the option of "try before you buy," most file sharers fall somewhere with in this category.
Unfortunately, the music and movie industry have helped congress design things so that the consumer is left holding the bag.
While they have also tricked people into believing that copying stuff, is the equivalent to stealing.
Try before you buy? How is that suppose to be applied to this issue? "Try" when applied to testing something before purchase hints at *not* keeping it forever free of charge. You can't "try" a car out around the track before you buy it - and just keep it forever - you either try it and buy it or don't buy it, but it's not yours just because you *want* it. The follow up to "try" is "purchase" or "don't purchase."
So - previews, listening to it on the radio or pandora and renting something from netflix is a "try"
And if you want to posses it forever - you "buy" it . . . just like everything else in the world that's a product or service which you purchase.
That being said - I have napster. I pay a few times a year ($15.00) and I can listen to all the music I want - and if I want to make a portable copy *then* I can use my earned credits - no extra money off the top - which is 15 credits per cycle . . . and if I want to exceed those credits I have to pay per song.
You can't convince me that somehow owning music or movies is a right - and so it's your right to take it just because you don't want to spend a little bit of money on it or you don't feel that artists who are sharing their talent and gift with you don't deserve their fair cut.
You can't convince me that somehow owning music or movies is a right - and so it's your right to take it just because you don't want to spend a little bit of money on it or you don't feel that artists who are sharing their talent and gift with you don't deserve their fair cut.
When I watch movies, I'll watch the whole thing for free, then decide whether or not I want to buy it.
Usually, I don't keep the dl'd version nor do I buy it because it's worthless, as most movies have turned out to be in the last few years.
It has saved me money because renting or buying it before I know if it's any good is a crap shoot.
I can't get a refund on a bad movie rental.
Movie reviewers don't hold my standards of good and bad.
Try before you buy? How is that suppose to be applied to this issue? "Try" when applied to testing something before purchase hints at *not* keeping it forever free of charge. You can't "try" a car out around the track before you buy it - and just keep it forever - you either try it and buy it or don't buy it, but it's not yours just because you *want* it. The follow up to "try" is "purchase" or "don't purchase."
Just rent the movies or watch with friends, for pete's sake.
The laws that the corporate powers are pushing go above and beyond simple ownership rights. Right now in Canada, the anti-piracy law being discussed in parliament - which, by the way, most Canadians oppose but the ruling party is ignoring us and listening to corporations instead - makes it illegal to jail break devices or rip from one format to another.
In other words, if I buy a music CD, it would be a punishable offense to rip that music for use in my ipod, even though I acquired the CD legally. They would instead want me to buy yet another version, the mp3 version, from an online store.
I mean, what kind of fascist crap is that? If I buy a CD, I am going to use it in any device I have, and that should be my right as a consumer. With this law, you don't own the CD, you are renting it, and rental comes with rules. That is what DMR essentially is becoming in the modern world.
The funny thing is, these kinds of draconian laws will just push more people to download illegally. Why would I go out and buy a CD if I can't own it or use it how I want like I would any of my own property? I mean, as long as I'm not sending copies to my friends, why should my activities be illegal? This has HUGE implications for how schools use content, other artists (like DJs), etc.
The level of corporate control is just too much right now. It needs to be shut down with proper democratic controls that favor MODERATE and reasonable consumer laws.
But no... instead we are deferring to crime and punishment, as usual. Create more crimes, and create more punishments. Make the jails bigger. Take away freedoms from more people for things that shouldn't be crimes in the first place.
I've watched way more movies than I would actually want to pay for.
The vast majority have not made it to "buy the dvd" status.
Renting is throwing away potentially hundreds of dollars and in the end, I'm not satisfied.
Then don't rent movies. And limit your intake. I am nowhere near sympathetic with you.
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