NYT: We Were Badly Misled About the Event That Changed Our Lives

[NOLA Dude]

 

[Threegoofs]

Aged better than your thread, which aged about as well as an unvaccinated child.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Aged better than your thread, which aged about as well as an unvaccinated child.

Why risk a child getting myocarditis while there is no longer a pandemic?

 

[jaeger19]

Utter nonsense response. The government does not mandate that we buy a car.

It mandates that we buy the seatbelts and airbags in that car

Cherry picked studies, not evidence.

Nope. Nothing cherry-picked. If it’s cherry picked then you could provide studies that refute it, but you can’t

You still have not explained "vaccinate ate".

I voice dictated vaccinate and my phone produced two different words
Vaccinate and vaccinate ate.

Got it? lol.

 

[Fledermaus]

Why risk a child getting myocarditis while there is no longer a pandemic?

The risk of 'myocarditis' is greater from COVID than from the vaccine.

 

[MAGAnificent]

The risk of 'myocarditis' is greater from COVID than from the vaccine.

When the first two and very deadly variants of covid were rampant, you would have a point. Not now. At this point in time, for children, the greater risk is with the vaccine.

 

[Fledermaus]

When the first two and very deadly variants of covid were rampant, you would have a point. Not now. At this point in time, for children, the greater risk is with the vaccine.

Your OPINION is noted.....

Where do you get information that for children the greater risk is with the vaccine?

 

[MAGAnificent]

Your OPINION is noted.....

Where do you get information that for children the greater risk is with the vaccine?

You libruls really miss the pandemic, huh?

 

[MAGAnificent]

It mandates that we buy the seatbelts and airbags in that car

However, it does not mandate that we buy automobiles. Understand?

Nope. Nothing cherry-picked. If it’s cherry picked then you could provide studies that refute it, but you can’t

Cherry picked.

I voice dictated vaccinate and my phone produced two different words

Blaming it on your phone? Ever heard of proof reading?

 

[Fledermaus]

You libruls really miss the pandemic, huh?

Where do you get information that for children the greater risk is with the vaccine?

 

[Fledermaus]

However, it does not mandate that we buy automobiles. Understand?

Cherry picked.

Blaming it on your phone? Ever heard of proof reading?

Where do you get information that for children the greater risk is with the vaccine?

 

[MAGAnificent]

Where do you get information that for children the greater risk is with the vaccine?

Common sense, myocarditis has always been a risk with the Covid vaccine during and since the pandemic. Why take what's now an unnecessary risk?

 

[Threegoofs]

Why risk a child getting myocarditis while there is no longer a pandemic?

Because there still is risk of a COVID infection.

And the rate of myocarditis for vaccines is about one in 5 million - those cases being mild. The risk of myocarditis from COVID is more than TENFOLD, and those cases are sometimes quite serious.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Because there still is risk of a COVID infection.

You libruls need to let go of the pandemic era. It's over. Covid has mutated down to the point that for most, it's no worse than the common cold and the rest, usually no worse than the flu.

 

[Threegoofs]

You libruls need to let go of the pandemic era. It's over. Covid has mutated down to the point that for most, it's no worse than the common cold and the rest, usually no worse than the flu.

Except when it’s not, and it causes myocarditis.

And that seems to elude your intellect.

Now this is more complicated, so you might want to abandon reading here as this is for others….. myocarditis seems to be directly related to a reaction to the spike protein, and it no real surprise that fulminant infection would result in high spike load, causing much worse myocarditis. But given that most people have had some exposure to covid already, the current rates of myositis from vaccines are probably much lower than 5/1,000,000.

But the immunocompromised kids who get covid can still have spikes, so the disparity between active infection myocarditis and vaccinated myocarditis is probably even greater than 10:1.

 

[jaeger19]

However, it does not mandate that we buy automobiles. Understand?

So what? It does mandate that you purchase air bags and seat buckles.
They ain’t optional.
If you want to take your little grandson with n the car you have to buy a car seat or obtain one.
If you put a boat on the water you have to purchase life jackets, fire extinguishers a signaling device.
If you have a FHA loan in your house you are required to purchase mortgage insurance.
The list goes on and on of the stuff you are mandated to buy.

Cherry picked.

You are lying.

Blaming it on your phone? Ever heard of proof reading?

Yep.

 

[Fledermaus]

Common sense, myocarditis has always been a risk with the Covid vaccine during and since the pandemic. Why take what's now an unnecessary risk?

THAT ISN'T A WHERE.

WHERE do you get information that for children the greater risk is with the vaccine?

 

[MAGAnificent]

Except when it’s not, and it causes myocarditis.

The point is that the pandemic is long over. Myocarditis from the covid shots is an unnecessary risk. The average child even during the pandemic shook off Covid easily.

And that seems to elude your intellect.

Again, I think you really miss the pandemic

Now this is more complicated, so you might want to abandon reading here as this is for others

I recommend that you abandon attempting to appear intellectual. It's not working.

But the immunocompromised kids who get covid can still have spikes, so the disparity between active infection myocarditis and vaccinated myocarditis is probably even greater than 10:1.

Immunocompromised individuals are a different matter. If I were a parent of an immunocompromised child, I would go with a pediatrician's recommendation. However, the average child is not immunocompromised,

 

[MAGAnificent]

So what? It does mandate that you purchase air bags and seat buckles.
They ain’t optional.

I think you are a bit confused. Nobody buys air bags. They come with the car. The manufacturers are required to include them. However my point is that the government does not mandate that you buy a car. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

If you want to take your little grandson with n the car you have to buy a car seat or obtain one.
If you put a boat on the water you have to purchase life jackets, fire extinguishers a signaling device.

As we should be, however again, the government does not mandate that you buy a car or boat.

If you have a FHA loan in your house you are required to purchase mortgage insurance.

The government does not mandate that you buy a house.

The list goes on and on of the stuff you are mandated to buy.

Again, you are confused. Nothing that you have brought up violates the Commerce Clause. Mandating that you buy health insurance does. That's why the individual mandate was repealed.

 

[MAGAnificent]

WHERE do you get information that for children the greater risk is with the vaccine?

Again, common sense. Myocarditis is a known risk to children taking the Covid vaccine. During the pandemic, that risk may or may not have been worth it, however since the end of the pandemic, it's an unnecessary risk, no matter how small you think the risk is. You are just deeply in love with mandates.

 

[NOLA Dude]

 

[NOLA Dude]

Aged better than your thread, which aged about as well as an unvaccinated child.

I know you work in big pharma so you are probably very upset that the gravy train is over.

 

[BirdinHand]

Common sense, myocarditis has always been a risk with the Covid vaccine during and since the pandemic. Why take what's now an unnecessary risk?

The people making that determination should be the child’s parent and pediatrician - taking into account the child’s medical history.

Not some idiot on Twitter.

 

[MAGAnificent]

The people making that determination should be the child’s parent and pediatrician - taking into account the child’s medical history.

I absolutely agree. However, my point still stands.

 

[BirdinHand]

I absolutely agree. However, my point still stands.

It’s going to depend on the kid

My son hasn’t had the Covid vaccine.

My best friend’s son has - because he’s VERY susceptible to bad outcomes when he gets sick. He gets very bad pneumonia, has wound up hospitalized several times, etc. The kid just doesn’t have the ability to fight things off without getting taken down. Seriously - a cold is almost never JUST a cold with him - it always turns into something more.