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NYT: We Were Badly Misled About the Event That Changed Our Lives

VanceMack said:
The fact is people were shunned, ridiculed, speech was outright banned for many things that have been proved to be factual.
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citation for the things that “ proved factual “needed.
 
Metric Mouse said:
He could have kept the deaths to at least the level of Trump.

Preferred it would be far below. Trump did awful; literally anything would have been better than how Trump handled things, and saved lives.

But Biden didn't. And more people needlessly died.
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Pooh.
You are like a monkey pooping into it’s hand and throwing its feces on the wall to see what sticks .
 
jaeger19 said:
Pooh.
You are like a monkey pooping into it’s hand and throwing its feces on the wall to see what sticks .
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For sure Biden handled covid worse than any monkey.

He might have been distracted by his dogs or an abandoned ice cream cone.

Whatever the case, hundreds of thousands of people died needlessly under his leadership. It was tragic, and upsetting.
 
Metric Mouse said:
For sure Biden handled covid worse than any monkey.

He might have been distracted by his dogs or an abandoned ice cream cone.

Whatever the case, hundreds of thousands of people died needlessly under his leadership. It was tragic, and upsetting.
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Well I look forward to your learned dissertation in EXACTLY what he should have done.
Please provide citations .

Or are you slinging poop?

Let’s see
 
jaeger19 said:
Well I look forward to your learned dissertation in EXACTLY what he should have done.
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He should have kept deaths lower than Trump (Biden's first year, obviously)

There is no argument that Trump's death rates were acceptable, and Biden's were even higher.

If he had only killed the same number of people Trump did, your argument of "oh, what can anyone do to stop covid, it's impossible!!" Would hold weight
But since Biden let more people die his first year than Trump did during his entire term, we could start with just doing whatever Trump did.

And then we could improve upon that, with Biden maybe not refusing to send hospital ships to states that didn't vote for him? Even Trump did that, and he's an asshole.

Biden ****ed up worse than Trump, and far more people died from a preventable disease.
 
Metric Mouse said:
He should have kept deaths lower than Trump (Biden's first year, obviously)

There is no argument that Trump's death rates were acceptable, and Biden's were even higher.

If he had only killed the same number of people Trump did, your argument of "oh, what can anyone do to stop covid, it's impossible!!" Would hold weight
But since Biden let more people die his first year than Trump did during his entire term, we could start with just doing whatever Trump did.

And then we could improve upon that, with Biden maybe not refusing to send hospital ships to states that didn't vote for him? Even Trump did that, and he's an asshole.

Biden ****ed up worse than Trump, and far more people died from a preventable disease.
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HOW?
 
Metric Mouse said:
He should have kept deaths lower than Trump (Biden's first year, obviously)

There is no argument that Trump's death rates were acceptable, and Biden's were even higher.

If he had only killed the same number of people Trump did, your argument of "oh, what can anyone do to stop covid, it's impossible!!" Would hold weight
But since Biden let more people die his first year than Trump did during his entire term, we could start with just doing whatever Trump did.

And then we could improve upon that, with Biden maybe not refusing to send hospital ships to states that didn't vote for him? Even Trump did that, and he's an asshole.

Biden ****ed up worse than Trump, and far more people died from a preventable disease.
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UMMM LOOKS LIKE MONKEY POO.

So try again.
Well I look forward to your learned dissertation in EXACTLY what he should have done.
Please provide citations .
 
jaeger19 said:
UMMM LOOKS LIKE MONKEY POO.

So try again.
Well I look forward to your learned dissertation in EXACTLY what he should have done.
Please provide citations .
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Biden should have sent hospital ships to states that requested them, and pushed for lock downs and travel restrictions for highly infected areas. At a minimum.

But he didn't, and hundreds of thousands of people died. How does anyone mess up and kill more people than Trump did?
 
Metric Mouse said:
For sure Trump left the door open.
Biden just opened it wider, and didn't take steps that slowed the number of horses escaping.

Neither is good, for sure.
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What are you talking about? The numbers slowed from about 1400 deaths/day under Trump to 600/day under Biden.
 
Metric Mouse said:
Biden should have sent hospital ships to states that requested them, and pushed for lock downs and travel restrictions for highly infected areas. At a minimum.
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The hospital ships would have been minimal impact.

Metric Mouse said:
But he didn't, and hundreds of thousands of people died. How does anyone mess up and kill more people than Trump did?
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Hundreds of thousands died because hospital ships didn't dock in cities?

The US Navy has two hospital ships.....
 
Jagged said:
What are you talking about? The numbers slowed from about 1400 deaths/day under Trump to 600/day under Biden.
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Yes, Biden let more people die his first year in office than Trump did his entire term.

Far more horses ran out under Biden's first year. And it's not horses... it's dead people, unfortunately.

Neither President handled the pandemic well... but one was, objectively, worse.
 
Metric Mouse said:
Yes, Biden let more people die his first year in office than Trump did his entire term.

Far more horses ran out under Biden's first year. And it's not horses... it's dead people, unfortunately.

Neither President handled the pandemic well... but one was, objectively, worse.
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Please tell us you are trolling....
 
Metric Mouse said:
Yes, Biden let more people die his first year in office than Trump did his entire term.

Far more horses ran out under Biden's first year. And it's not horses... it's dead people, unfortunately.

Neither President handled the pandemic well... but one was, objectively, worse.
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<smh>

That's not even true. Trump wasn't even president for a year with covid claiming victims. And in the first month, it had just started spreading.

Under 11 months of Trump, there were about 444K deaths. During the first 11 months Under Biden, there were about 383K deaths. ~61K more deaths under Trump.

And still, the death rate was nearly 3x higher under Trump than it was under Biden.

Here's a shovel. Keep digging.
 
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