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Will be interesting to see if the proposed solution to keep poor people from claiming government assistance will in the end just have them claiming more government assistance since they don't really make any more money, and the costs of things they buy on a daily basis are now increased.
Will be interesting to see if the proposed solution to keep poor people from claiming government assistance will in the end just have them claiming more government assistance since they don't really make any more money, and the costs of things they buy on a daily basis are now increased.
For better or worse at least we will learn a lot from these little experiments happening around the country.
This is a nonsense story. Right now, heart of the NY winter, is the slowest season for restaurants which open and close faster than most people change to fresh underwear. Come spring, quality restaurants that don't provide service will wither on the vine. With the financial chaos people are also dining out less. Restauranteurs who are complaining about the wage hike aren't being honest about why they are suffering. All the truly hot restaurants are busy come the weekends, dead during the week.
Last Friday evening we waited 2 hours at the bar, with a reservation, before we got our table. One of the city's finest Italian restaurants. Others waited longer. 60 tables and packed despite the deep freeze.
I personally know many restauranteurs. It is the weak who are complaining. And the fast food joints.
The studies that came out near the end of 2018 show that the Seattle minimum wage increase worked out well for people. The early naysayers were wrong. What data have you seen that supports your assumptions?We saw this in Seattle as well......what happens is the best of the best can take on the added workload as restaurants cut staff and they make out like bandits because they are serving a lot of people and because the standard Seattle tip/Service Charge is 20% even though staff gets paid $15 at least plus benefits often times at the best establishments. Everywhere else the service is increasingly lacking as staff buckles under the loads.
The studies that came out near the end of 2018 show that the Seattle minimum wage increase worked out well for people. The early naysayers were wrong. What data have you seen that supports your assumptions?
I made no comment on how the high min wage works "For people" other than that the best labor make out like bandits and that customers at mid and lower quality places tend to suffer service decline....my claim is based upon personal experience and general expertise in the field, not data.
Why do you believe that your gut is a better predictor of reality than reality?
For better or worse at least we will learn a lot from these little experiments happening around the country.
.....That would be nice, but, I think, a bit unrealistically optimistic. Those who don't want this result to occur will, I think, have little problem insisting that it hasn't, or insisting that it doesn't count because [insert whatever post-facto justification allows them to say so].
The studies that came out near the end of 2018 show that the Seattle minimum wage increase worked out well for people. The early naysayers were wrong. What data have you seen that supports your assumptions?
You are certainly right about that. But what I said does apply to me. I am honestly in the fence over whether or not minimum wage hikes have an aggregate positive or negative on the unemployed and low income earners.
Study: Young, new workers struggling amid Seattle $15 minimum wageWe start out with about 14,000 people who we observe in our data working the lowest-paid jobs in Seattle at the beginning of 2015, before the minimum wage started going up,” Vigdor said. “There is a big distinction between the workers putting in more hours on the job and workers putting less hours on the job.”
Workers who put in more hours saw an increase in pay of about $20 a week. Those same workers also saw their hours go down slightly, but not enough to chip away at the minor pay bump.
“The less experienced workers, they more or less broke even,” Vigdor said. “They did see their hourly wages go up, but their hours were cut back enough that, basically, they are making the same amount of money; they are working fewer hours to make that money.”
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