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NYC Mayoral Election Discussion

Cameron

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Anybody else watch the debate last night?

I don’t think there was any breakout performance.

Mamdani seems like the clear #2 at the moment. Personally I view him as the progressive Ramaswamy: a cocky little shit with radical ideas and zero experience. But he could win in this sorry field. His refusal to answer whether Israel has the right to exist as a Jewish state will hurt him, though.

Adams (Adrienne) is not inspiring but seems like she would be the most acceptable to the broadest range of people. Seems doubtful she’ll make the final two though.

Cuomo of course got the most shots, but he’s so far beyond everyone else in administrative experience it’s not remotely funny. He looked like he thought the event was a joke, which it was. Not sure that’s an appealing look, though.

Not sure why any of the others are running. Pretty hilarious watching them all act like they weren’t all in on defund the police and bail reform a few years back. Kathryn Garcia should have run again. Ultimately, you’d think the greatest city in the country would have a lot more to offer.

The moderators were god awful.
 
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Cameron said:
Anybody else watch the debate last night?

I don’t think there was any breakout performance.

Mamdani seems like the clear #2 at the moment. Personally I view him as the progressive Ramaswarmy: a cocky little shit with radical ideas and zero experience. But he could win in this sorry field. His refusal to answer whether Israel has the right to exist as a Jewish state will hurt him though.

Adam’s (Adrienne) is not inspiring but seems like she would be the most acceptable to the broadest range of people. Seems doubtful she’ll make the final two though.

Cuomo of course got the most shots, but he’s so far beyond everyone else in administrative experience it’s not remotely funny. He looked like he thought the event was a joke, which it was. Not sure that’s an appealing look though.

Not sure why any of the others are running. Pretty hilarious watching them all act like they weren’t all in on defund the police and bail reform a few years back. Kathryn Garcia should have run again. Ultimately, you’d think the greatest city in the country would have a lot more to offer.

The moderators were god awful.
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New York voters will pick their own poison. They have a mess of a city and a state because of liberal policy and extremely high taxation. I don't see anyone who looks like they would improve any of that. More tax, more spending, less common sense, continuation of soft of crime and sanctuary policies will just keep the slide downhill going. A progressive socialist and a former governor with baggage will not fixe NYC.
 
Integrityrespec said:
New York voters will pick their own poison. They have a mess of a city and a state because of liberal policy and extremely high taxation. I don't see anyone who looks like they would improve any of that. More tax, more spending, less common sense, continuation of soft of crime and sanctuary policies will just keep the slide downhill going. A progressive socialist and a former governor with baggage will not fixe NYC.
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Just a reminder that when folks talk about the country electing a felonious demagague for President, you all say the opposition must have been worse.

So back atcha.
 
I'm rooting for the socialist Mamdani. His failures will be the most entertaining. His platform includes huge tax hikes, government-grocery stores(!), stricter rent control, and making it even harder for landlords to get rid of bad tenants.
 
I've been watching some videos of Mamdani. He is an awesome politician. His ideas are all shit, but he makes them sound wonderful. He is also very likable. I think he will beat Cuomo, or come very close.
 
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I'm on the fence as to who I'll put first - Mamdani or Lander. The other will be #2.

Adrienne Adams is #3, and no one else will be on my ballot.
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From what I understand of how your ranked choice system works, better fill out all five. Otherwise you are likely to end up with Mayor Cuomo.
 
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Cameron said:
Anybody else watch the debate last night?

I don’t think there was any breakout performance.

Mamdani seems like the clear #2 at the moment. Personally I view him as the progressive Ramaswamy: a cocky little shit with radical ideas and zero experience. But he could win in this sorry field. His refusal to answer whether Israel has the right to exist as a Jewish state will hurt him, though.
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I watched the debate. It only makes me wish my family and I lived in New York.

I do not see how you can possibly compare Mamdami to Ramaswamy in any way other than they are two young South Asian men. Ramaswamy just pretended to be scientist who became a billionaire selling vaporware and jetting off. Mamdami is just a young public legislator who is earnest and has actual public appeal of his constituents unlike Ramaswamy who appealed to well-read center-righters like I was (until I realized that all right-wing media was a mendacious grift).

And Israel should not exist as a violent Rhodesia-style ethnostate for Jews, which is what it currently is. I am with Mandami. Israel should exist as a state with equal right for all citizens, and not privilege Jews above all others.

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Adams (Adrienne) is not inspiring but seems like she would be the most acceptable to the broadest range of people. Seems doubtful she’ll make the final two though.

Cuomo of course got the most shots, but he’s so far beyond everyone else in administrative experience it’s not remotely funny. He looked like he thought the event was a joke, which it was. Not sure that’s an appealing look, though.
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Yeah, I am not sure that Cuomo's administrative experience is of any real benefit if he simply uses it to peddle influence to the highest bidder, and he has many, many wealthy patrons bidding on him.

Cameron said:
Not sure why any of the others are running. Pretty hilarious watching them all act like they weren’t all in on defund the police and bail reform a few years back. Kathryn Garcia should have run again. Ultimately, you’d think the greatest city in the country would have a lot more to offer.

The moderators were god awful.
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In order of who I liked and who I would vote for if I had my druthers:

1. Brad Landers (who looks and sounds for all the world like Jon Lovitz's younger, more-handsome brother)
2. Zohran Mandami.
3. Michael Blake
4. Adrienne Adams
5. Scott Stringer
 
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From what I understand of how your ranked choice system works, better fill out all five. Otherwise you are likely to end up with Mayor Cuomo.
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Probably not. Hard to see who would rise to #2 other than the three people he named.
 
Felis Leo said:
I am not sure that Cuomo's administrative experience is of any real benefit if he simply uses it to peddle influence to the highest bidder, and he has many, many wealthy patrons bidding on him.
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Which is to be expected given the gap between his resume and everyone else’s. He also has the endorsement of almost every union. Mamdani claims to speak for working class but, like most progressives, his base primarily consists of privileged white students who haven’t yet had to work or support themselves and don’t understand how the world works, plus academics and others in ivory tower careers who gets paid to have ideas that never get put into practice.

I will be voting for Adams and Lander, haven’t decided yet if I will vote Cuomo third. I think any of the others would be unmitigated disasters so I might.
 
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He also has the endorsement of almost every union. Mamdani claims to have the support of the working class but like most progressives his base primarily consists of privilege young students who haven’t yet had to work or support themselves and don’t understand how the world works, plus academics and others in ivory tower careers.
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That's not true. Cuomo doesn't have UAW, CWA, IATSE, UNITE HERE, or PSC-CUNY - all of whom have endorsed Mamdani and Lander.
 
Cameron said:
Anybody else watch the debate last night?

I don’t think there was any breakout performance.

Mamdani seems like the clear #2 at the moment. Personally I view him as the progressive Ramaswamy: a cocky little shit with radical ideas and zero experience. But he could win in this sorry field. His refusal to answer whether Israel has the right to exist as a Jewish state will hurt him, though.

Adams (Adrienne) is not inspiring but seems like she would be the most acceptable to the broadest range of people. Seems doubtful she’ll make the final two though.

Cuomo of course got the most shots, but he’s so far beyond everyone else in administrative experience it’s not remotely funny. He looked like he thought the event was a joke, which it was. Not sure that’s an appealing look, though.

Not sure why any of the others are running. Pretty hilarious watching them all act like they weren’t all in on defund the police and bail reform a few years back. Kathryn Garcia should have run again. Ultimately, you’d think the greatest city in the country would have a lot more to offer.

The moderators were god awful.
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Though a native NYer, I'm across the river now so I don't have skin in the game, but that Cuomo's on the ticket...
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All the Dems suck, especially Cuomo.

I’d vote for Curtis Sliwa before I’d vote for any of them.
 
Cameron said:
Which is to be expected given the gap between his resume and everyone else’s.
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And what a resume it is. Fifty years on the taxpayer dime, sexually assaulting a dozen women, and a covid policy that made it easier for the virus to kill old people.

Cameron said:
Mamdani claims to speak for working class but, like most progressives, his base primarily consists of privileged white students who haven’t yet had to work or support themselves and don’t understand how the world works, plus academics and others in ivory tower careers who gets paid to have ideas that never get put into practice.
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He is for the working class. He supports a rent freeze(!), more pro-tenant laws, free bus travel for everyone, and free child care.

How is that not for the working class?

Cameron said:
I will be voting for Adams and Lander, haven’t decided yet if I will vote Cuomo third. I think any of the others would be unmitigated disasters so I might.
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aociswundumho said:
And what a resume it is. Fifty years on the taxpayer dime, sexually assaulting a dozen women, and a covid policy that made it easier for the virus to kill old people.
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"Fifty years on the taxpayer dime" is your way of saying a lifetime of government service. No one can seriously dispute he was an effective governor. But yes, the toxic work environment he fostered is a major reason not to vote for him, and there are other select actions he took as governor I don't approve of.

He is for the working class. He supports a rent freeze(!), more pro-tenant laws, free bus travel for everyone, and free child care.
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He makes lots of pie-in-the-sky promises in an effort to appeal to the working class. According to recent polling, though, most of the actual constituency seems to see through it. Similar thing happened with Maya Wiley last election. She ran on a racial justice platform and lost the black and latino vote.

I am very much hoping that the ranked-choice voting system will propel Adrienne Adams to a very surprise victory, but it doesn't seem likely.
 
Cameron said:
"Fifty years on the taxpayer dime" is your way of saying a lifetime of government service.
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Yes, if by service you mean the kind where the customer always loses.

Cameron said:
He makes lots of pie-in-the-sky promises in an effort to appeal to the working class.
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Yep, that's what makes him for the working class.

Cameron said:
According to recent polling, though, most of the actual constituency seems to see through it.
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He's polling well, and there's a lot of time yet. I think he will win.

Cameron said:
Similar thing happened with Maya Wiley last election. She ran on a racial justice platform and lost the black and latino vote.
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That social justice shit is dead. Mamdani is running on economics that (in theory) will help everyone who isn't already rich.

Cameron said:
I am very much hoping that the ranked-choice voting system will propel Adrienne Adams to a very surprise victory, but it doesn't seem likely.
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JFC she's the worst of the lot. Totally pro-union, which means she's literally telling you that she will help special interest groups ass-rape the taxpayers.
 
aociswundumho said:
JFC she's the worst of the lot. Totally pro-union, which means she's literally telling you that she will help special interest groups ass-rape the taxpayers.
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In other words, she is likely to actually help the working class. In fact she is seen as quite moderate.

As the only person between us who actually pays (quite a lot) in NYC taxes, I want someone competent and not divisive. She appears to fit the bill.
 
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