Notes From The Didache On The Early Christian View Of Abortion

[VySky]

Many in today’s churches whistle past the graveyard when it comes to abortion.

It is clear here that yes, God does abhor abortion.

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“The Didache is in two or three parts. The first part draws heavily from the gospels and follows the “two-ways” ethical tradition of Proverbs and the Psalms. It quotes and elaborates subtly upon the Sermon on the Mount, which elaborations (e.g., substituting “fasting” for blessing one’s enemies) seem to locate it more in the 2nd century than the first. The second part of the work is a fairly detailed account of the early Christian practice of baptism (by effusion) and the Lord’s Supper. The Didache knows nothing of transubstantiation or a memorial eucharistic sacrifice. The third part is a brief apocalyptic section. Naturally, there is much discussion among scholars about the source criticism and how to relate the three aspects of the document to each other.”

“Yesterday, in class, as we worked through chapter 2 I was struck by this portion of 2:2: “You shall not murder a child in destruction nor shall you kill one just born” (οὐ φονεύσεις τέκνον ἐν φθορᾷ οὐδὲ γεννηθέντα ἀποκτενεῖς). Michael Holmes, in his excellent edition of the Apostolic Fathers (3rd edition) translates these clauses, “you shall not abort a child or commit infanticide.” This seems perfect.”

Notes From The Didache On The Early Christian View Of Abortion - The Heidelblog

One of the more difficult and fascinating texts in the collection of texts known as the Apostolic Fathers is the Teaching of the Lord to the Gentiles by the Twelve Apostles usually known as a the Didache (Διδαχὴ). It is difficult because there are genuine questions as to its original…

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[Lursa]

Many in today’s churches whistle past the graveyard when it comes to abortion.

Is there a reason that a religious belief that millions dont share should drive legislation in the US? There's a 1st Amendment right protecting people from that. Correct?

If you dont wish to discuss the law, perhaps this would be better in the Religious sub-forum? Do you want to discuss the law?

It is clear here that yes, God does abhor abortion.

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I'll be happy to address that and prove that incorrect as well, later. Not really necessary if you cannot answer my questions above.

 

[Cameron]

Ok, please prove the Didache is the word of God, or that God even exists.

 

[bongsaway]

Many in today’s churches whistle past the graveyard when it comes to abortion.

It is clear here that yes, God does abhor abortion.

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“The Didache is in two or three parts. The first part draws heavily from the gospels and follows the “two-ways” ethical tradition of Proverbs and the Psalms. It quotes and elaborates subtly upon the Sermon on the Mount, which elaborations (e.g., substituting “fasting” for blessing one’s enemies) seem to locate it more in the 2nd century than the first. The second part of the work is a fairly detailed account of the early Christian practice of baptism (by effusion) and the Lord’s Supper. The Didache knows nothing of transubstantiation or a memorial eucharistic sacrifice. The third part is a brief apocalyptic section. Naturally, there is much discussion among scholars about the source criticism and how to relate the three aspects of the document to each other.”

“Yesterday, in class, as we worked through chapter 2 I was struck by this portion of 2:2: “You shall not murder a child in destruction nor shall you kill one just born” (οὐ φονεύσεις τέκνον ἐν φθορᾷ οὐδὲ γεννηθέντα ἀποκτενεῖς). Michael Holmes, in his excellent edition of the Apostolic Fathers (3rd edition) translates these clauses, “you shall not abort a child or commit infanticide.” This seems perfect.”

Notes From The Didache On The Early Christian View Of Abortion - The Heidelblog

One of the more difficult and fascinating texts in the collection of texts known as the Apostolic Fathers is the Teaching of the Lord to the Gentiles by the Twelve Apostles usually known as a the Didache (Διδαχὴ). It is difficult because there are genuine questions as to its original…

heidelblog.net

Many in today’s churches whistle past the graveyard when it comes to abortion.

It is clear here that yes, God does abhor abortion.

————————

“The Didache is in two or three parts. The first part draws heavily from the gospels and follows the “two-ways” ethical tradition of Proverbs and the Psalms. It quotes and elaborates subtly upon the Sermon on the Mount, which elaborations (e.g., substituting “fasting” for blessing one’s enemies) seem to locate it more in the 2nd century than the first. The second part of the work is a fairly detailed account of the early Christian practice of baptism (by effusion) and the Lord’s Supper. The Didache knows nothing of transubstantiation or a memorial eucharistic sacrifice. The third part is a brief apocalyptic section. Naturally, there is much discussion among scholars about the source criticism and how to relate the three aspects of the document to each other.”

“Yesterday, in class, as we worked through chapter 2 I was struck by this portion of 2:2: “You shall not murder a child in destruction nor shall you kill one just born” (οὐ φονεύσεις τέκνον ἐν φθορᾷ οὐδὲ γεννηθέντα ἀποκτενεῖς). Michael Holmes, in his excellent edition of the Apostolic Fathers (3rd edition) translates these clauses, “you shall not abort a child or commit infanticide.” This seems perfect.”

Notes From The Didache On The Early Christian View Of Abortion - The Heidelblog

One of the more difficult and fascinating texts in the collection of texts known as the Apostolic Fathers is the Teaching of the Lord to the Gentiles by the Twelve Apostles usually known as a the Didache (Διδαχὴ). It is difficult because there are genuine questions as to its original…

heidelblog.net

You and your god can shove your opinions up your arses. There are no gods.

 

[Gordy327]

Many in today’s churches whistle past the graveyard when it comes to abortion.

It is clear here that yes, God does abhor abortion.

Who cares? If god has an issue with abortion, god can come and do something about it himself! It's certinly none of your or anyone else's business or concern what another chooses regarding their pregnancy/body. It's also rather arrogant to claim to know what the grandest possible entity likes or dislikes.

 

[VySky]

Is there a reason that a religious belief that millions dont share should drive legislation in the US? There's a 1st Amendment right protecting people from that. Correct?

If you dont wish to discuss the law, perhaps this would be better in the Religious sub-forum? Do you want to discuss the law?



I'll be happy to address that and prove that incorrect as well, later. Not really necessary if you cannot answer my questions above.

This forum is for discussion of abortion. Not the law or it would be more appropriate in Law & Order forum.

My topic stands as to why abortion is wrong.

 

[Gordy327]

This forum is for discussion of abortion. Not the law or it would be more appropriate in Law & Order forum.

My topic stands as to why abortion is wrong.

What's wrong with abortion? If your religion says it's wrong, that only applies to you or others within that religion and not anyone else. A rational argument can be made abortion is a good thing.

 

[VySky]

What's wrong with abortion? If your religion says it's wrong, that only applies to you or others within that religion and not anyone else. A rational argument can be made abortion is a good thing.

On 9/10 more died in womens wombs than the 9/11 attack in NYC. And our country is more concerned about terrorism than abortion.

 

[BirdinHand]

This forum is for discussion of abortion. Not the law or it would be more appropriate in Law & Order forum.

My topic stands as to why abortion is wrong.

Then don’t have one if it goes against your beliefs

Simple as that.

 

[BirdinHand]

On 9/10 more died in womens wombs than the 9/11 attack in NYC. And our country is more concerned about terrorism than abortion.

This country doesn’t care about living and breathing children - especially under the current Trump administration that’s cutting access to free lunch programs, food stamps, education, healthcare benefits, environmental protections, etc.

 

[VySky]

This country doesn’t care about living and breathing children - especially under the current Trump administration that’s cutting access to free lunch programs, food stamps, education, healthcare benefits, environmental protections, etc.

Death compares to access of free lunches?

Um, OK I guess.

 

[BirdinHand]

Death compares to free access to lunches?

Um, OK I guess.

That’s the conclusion you’ve jumped to. Not what I stated.

Want women to have fewer abortions? Make it so that women can feel confident in their ability to actually provide for children.

You don’t achieve that but cutting programs that serve the poorest amongst us because that’s who have the most abortions

 

[Sweden]

On 9/10 more died in womens wombs than the 9/11 attack in NYC. And our country is more concerned about terrorism than abortion.

More what "died in women's bodies"? Certainly not people, like those murdered by Islamic terrorists on 9/11.

 

[VySky]

That’s the conclusion you’ve jumped to. Not what I stated.

Its what you did.

You minimized death in the womb by propping it up against the lack of free school lunches.

 

[VySky]

More what "died in women's bodies"? Certainly not people, like those murdered by Islamic terrorists on 9/11.

life. You can justify abortion anyway you want. But stopping a heartbeat is murder.

 

[BirdinHand]

Its what you did.

You minimized death in the womb by propping it up against the lack of free school lunches.

Yeah, well kids outside the womb do need to eat.

You don’t care about children once they exit the womb.

You only care about fetuses when it comes to sitting on the sideline to condemn the choices women make and wielding a religious text to justify that hypocrisy.

And it is hypocrisy.

 

[Gordy327]

On 9/10 more died in womens wombs than the 9/11 attack in NYC. And our country is more concerned about terrorism than abortion.

Terrorism actively and Demonstrably harms individuals and society, 9/11 being a prime example. Abortion has no negative effect on society or individuals beyond the one having an abortion. There is no comparison between the two and it's disingenuous to even attempt a comparison.

life. You can justify abortion anyway you want. But stopping a heartbeat is murder.

Why would anyone need to justify their abortion decision to you or anyone else? And abortion is not murder, no matter how much you believe otherwise.

Its what you did.

You minimized death in the womb by propping it up against the lack of free school lunches.

Spare us the emotionalism. Abortion is far safer, easier, cheaper, and practical than gestation, birth, and rearing. That's just a simple fact.

 

[Sweden]

life. You can justify abortion anyway you want. But stopping a heartbeat is murder.

In your opinion. In Sweden you would be one of a very small minority.

 

[BirdinHand]

In your opinion. In Sweden you would be one of a very small minority.

Isn’t Sweden one of the countries where individuals can safely allow their babies to nap outside in their prams? Or am I mistaken?

I am completely in awe of how other countries support families. And mothers. And how safe their societies are.

Sadly, that’s not the culture here in the US.

 

[Sweden]

bies in pram

Isn’t Sweden one of the countries where individuals can safely allow their babies to nap outside in their prams? Or am I mistaken?

I am completely in awe of how other countries support families. And mothers. And how safe their societies are.

Sadly, that’s not the culture here in the US.

Babies are safe where I live and in most places in Sweden but not maybe everywhere. It's their mothers or teenage sisters who need to be wary in high immigrant areas.

 

[Lovebug]

Be human.

 

[BabaVoss]

Natural biology results in a percentage of natural abortions. We must recognize that abortions occur naturally. This is factually true, regardless of belief in god or gods.

 

[Lovebug]

This forum is for discussion of abortion. Not the law or it would be more appropriate in Law & Order forum.

My topic stands as to why abortion is wrong.

You mentioned the Sermon on the Mount.
MAGA christians should read and heed it.

 

[Loulit01]

You mentioned the Sermon on the Mount.
MAGA christians should read and heed it.

Yes. I sincerely recommend Matthew 5 (KJV). I'm particularly moved by the 15 or so verses at the end of the chapter. I'm an atheist, but I can tell good preaching from bad preaching.

 

[Sweden]

Be human.

We are all members of the species Homo Sapiens so we are humans. No choice involved.