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Well, the American people were absolutely pissed when Al-Queda was being harbored by the Tali-Ban and decided that they were just as guilty. I'm not sure your point addresses the realty. If Iran's funding goes to a terrorist organization to kill Americans, then that terrorist organization is merely a proxy for Iran's bidding.
But let's be real. "We the People" could care less about any soldier, Marine, sailor, or airman that died throughout the 90s due to terrorist activity until 9/11 and "We the People" wanted revenge for the death of civilians. "We the People" have been proven to be hypocrits, selfish, and plain mean to its military. "Support the Troop" came with criticisms, insults, political grandstanding, and accusations of evil acts by "We the People" ever since they demanded we go out and murder and slaughter, for them....not us.
We were dying and were ignored before 9/11.
Truth be told. You guys are expendable. Most likely you guys are the most expendable "productive" members in society. So no one cares about and it is what you signed up for. Don't blame or anything realize that it was what you wanted so don't be expecting a thanks.
So you would be Mr. Unico because you serve? LOL. The reason no one likes the military is because of the likes of you which make the majority of cannon fodder...er I mean military. I have watched and listended to enough veterans that yeah the majority want a thanks and expect it and they also expect people to open doors for them. The majority of soldiers walk around with an attitude that they are doing something exceptional. But no you guys are not all spec ops and even then most of them are bored straight. Why? Because the people do not want a war like you war mongers do. Its scary that you are in the position you are in but not surprising when the mentally elite are in the private sector or civie world. Rarely are the mentally elite in the military.I'm not the "We the People" pretending otherwise. This is exactly what I was talking about. We know the truth about ourselves despite the civilian world pretending different. I joined in 1992, well before this "Support theTroop" fad.
We know we are expendable. We don't expect a thanks nor want it. It's embarrassing. We do this for the excitment and the action. We do it for us. Not for the Budweiser commercials that salute the troops in order to boost sales. We don't care for the falsehoods that make civilians feel better about themselves when they want others to do their revenge killing. "Support the Troop" was a politician's tactic. If "We the People" weren't so stupid, the military would have handled Al-Queda before 9/11 when our intel systms were screaming about it but was ignored.
Case in point....before 9/11, military members were murdered abroad without a care. Our inventory across the branches were Vietnam vintage. Nobody gave a ****. But after 9/11, "We the People" decided that it would boost the anti-Bush campaign by pointing at our equipment. The Democratic Party couldn't fathom why our troops were without proper body armor and complete NBC suits as if we ever had it before.
Another case in point....at a time when troops need inexpensive body armor, 21st century equipment, and advanced local comm systems, "We the People" would rather spend the money on fantastical weaponry that have no place on our battle field. Cold War programs like the F-22 or next generational nuclear submarines are a gross unacceptable event. And when it comes down to cutting "military spending," do you think these programs routinely get cut or do you think the troop goes without body armor?
But let's introduce another truth. With education being a primary financial cut to fix government spending, our teachers are just as expendable. This is the selfish, backwards, mean, "We the People" I'm talking about.
So you would be Mr. Unico because you serve? LOL.
The reason no one likes the military is because of the likes of you which make the majority of cannon fodder...er I mean military. I have watched and listended to enough veterans that yeah the majority want a thanks and expect it and they also expect people to open doors for them. The majority of soldiers walk around with an attitude that they are doing something exceptional. But no you guys are not all spec ops and even then most of them are bored straight. Why? Because the people do not want a war like you war mongers do. Its scary that you are in the position you are in but not surprising when the mentally elite are in the private sector or civie world. Rarely are the mentally elite in the military.
You cannot take out an organization that is multi national without the cooperation of other governments. And also its counter insurgency and terrorism that we need to focus on and not doing what the likes of you would want.
If you bothered to read what I said, I asked for evidence that Iranians have directly killed American Citizens or Soldiers, not whether they financed terrorists who end up killing our soldiers. You obviously can't meet your burden of proof, so just admit you're wrong.
So you would be Mr. Unico because you serve? LOL. The reason no one likes the military is because of the likes of you which make the majority of cannon fodder...er I mean military. I have watched and listended to enough veterans that yeah the majority want a thanks and expect it and they also expect people to open doors for them. The majority of soldiers walk around with an attitude that they are doing something exceptional. But no you guys are not all spec ops and even then most of them are bored straight. Why? Because the people do not want a war like you war mongers do. Its scary that you are in the position you are in but not surprising when the mentally elite are in the private sector or civie world. Rarely are the mentally elite in the military.
You cannot take out an organization that is multi national without the cooperation of other governments. And also its counter insurgency and terrorism that we need to focus on and not doing what the likes of you would want.
Ok, private Dofus.....I mean Master Sarge Dofus.Um..no. I'm just a military man with a job. It's you that has the inferiority complex.
This is coming from the guy whose marines do not go into an area until all targets have been bombed by the air force. Oh and lets not forget you guys do not go up against people who would stand and fight like Russia, Germany, China. But no you go into nations with a military that is stuck in the 70s or 17th century. Very brave guys very brave.Anybody else seeing the inferiority complex? I merely called people's bluff about "Supporting the Troop" and you have done nothing but insult and tear down. Perhaps you have a cowardice streak that military life reminds you of too often? You obviously have the same old ax to grind.
My head rests on my neck far from my ass. But lets not pretend you military grunts were born with your heads in your ass. And as you age it goes further into your ass. So lets not forget you pays your salary. The taxpayer does.Well, first of all, "we" wouldn't involve you so let's not pretend. And second, just what is it that you think I want? I have been quite clear that we can't do anything about a nuclear armed North Korea. Did you make the mistake of coming into this conversation to tear into the military and wound up getting caught with your head up your ass?
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We need an unthank button for stupid ass post, to go with our thank button.:yt
Ok, private Dofus.....I mean Master Sarge Dofus.
This is coming from the guy whose marines do not go into an area until all targets have been bombed by the air force. Oh and lets not forget you guys do not go up against people who would stand and fight like Russia, Germany, China. But no you go into nations with a military that is stuck in the 70s or 17th century. Very brave guys very brave.
My head rests on my neck far from my ass.
So lets not forget you pays your salary. The taxpayer does.
It's nothing new. He constantly looks for ways to ridicule the military. He's mostly a character with a complex to dismiss.
Actually the best response is no response. My point was just to show YOUR immaturity in this discussion and you have. So ty and have a good one.Enjoy the joke people. He's entertaining isn't he?
First of all, immediate air support for Marines and soldiers comes from Marine, Army, and Navy air. The Air Force har largely been without a job in this "War in Terror."
And second of all, wars with Russia and China aren't necessary.
I appreciate your very mature attitude to subdue your internal inferiority complex to inslut. But this was a very ignorant and "doofus" post full of errors.
You are unaware of the roles of the military branches and completely in the dark as to their activities. I don't think you know where your ass is.
So you would be Mr. Unico because you serve?
Nowhere was that said or suggested in that post.
The reason no one likes the military is because of the likes of you which make the majority of cannon fodder...er I mean military.
It seems you are setting out to be deliberately ignorant, and from that I can only assume you are not an American, or that English is not your first language.
81% View U.S. Military Favorably This Veterans Day - Rasmussen Reports™
Actually the best response is no response. My point was just to show YOUR immaturity in this discussion and you have. So ty and have a good one.
Americans are more capable of rising above the ignorant cowardly pundit than you think.
We will have to disagree on this. If US forces are used in NE Asia Obama will screw it up, and get Americans killed. Best not to fight when you have an incompetent leader.
When i seen that post the first thing that came to mind was ****bird.
Yeah, it's always best to wish him well and hope he gets his prescriptions re-filled before it's too late.
Ok, private Dofus.....I mean Master Sarge Dofus.
This is coming from the guy whose marines do not go into an area until all targets have been bombed by the air force. Oh and lets not forget you guys do not go up against people who would stand and fight like Russia, Germany, China. But no you go into nations with a military that is stuck in the 70s or 17th century. Very brave guys very brave.
My head rests on my neck far from my ass. But lets not pretend you military grunts were born with your heads in your ass. And as you age it goes further into your ass. So lets not forget you pays your salary. The taxpayer does.
Actually the best response is no response. My point was just to show YOUR immaturity in this discussion and you have. So ty and have a good one.
Yup, you must be right. And with that our conversation comes to a conclusion. It was a pleasure meeting you.
You're damn right I'm right. I run two businesses soon to be three. If you think losing a customer is no big deal you don't have a clue about business. It's business 101 for God's sake!
I see you're copping out again. Par for the course.
I'm not willing to engage with you. I have nothing to gain by doing so. You have no insights of value. You have nothing to teach me. You have no information to share. You aren't even amusing. Bye.
justabubbu said:we can rule out reunification of the koreas as china would lose both its physical buffer and control of a state now in its orbit
we can rule out china tolerating an assault on NK - Post 348.
MSgt said:Considering how economically tied China and America are, it is in the interest of both that North Korea behave. China knows this and America knows this. – Post 353.
justabubbu said:i see your post and recognize that other than insisting china will have to loosen civil rights (for God only knows what reason), you have posted NOTHING else specific which must be done to cause NK to change its ways, and absolutely nothing that the USA would be required to do to accomplish that end - Post 357.
MSgt said:I believe I offerred exactly that. China is "allied" to North Korea. America is allied to South Korea. Neither America nor China is willing to engage in a proxy war over foolish North Korea. - Post 361.
MSgt said:In regards to North Korea, their nuclear threats and occassional missile launches (bullying) affect the entire region with a nervous China incapable of disciplining them properly. You think a nuclear attack from North Korea is in China's best interest? Post 430.
Ocean City said:Simply "carpet bombing" North Korea as soon as possible would inevitably lead to a World War III against China (fighting China in North Korea in the 50s didn't go to good for us) and that's something that should be considered with the most discretion and caution. Post 437.
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