North Korea Calls U.S. Attitude During Talks With Pompeo ‘Regrettable’

[CMPancake]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/07/world/asia/mike-pompeo-north-korea-pyongyang.html

PYONGYANG, North Korea — North Korea accused the Trump administration on Saturday of pushing a “unilateral and gangster-like demand for denuclearization” and called it “deeply regrettable,” hours after Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said his two days of talks in the North Korean capital were “productive.”

Remember just a month ago when Trump supporters were spiking the metaphorical football at the figurative coin toss?

Mr. Pompeo and his entourage offered no immediate evidence after talks ended that they had come away with anything tangible to show that the reclusive country was willing to surrender its nuclear and missile weapons programs. He did not meet with the North Korean leader but held talks with Kim Yong-chol, a senior North Korean official who has been negotiating with Americans for decades.

Yeah, no. The DPRK doesn't want to play ball, they never truly did. And if they did, I very much doubt the clown car administration of being capable of any actual negotiations.

 

[LowDown]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/07/world/asia/mike-pompeo-north-korea-pyongyang.html



Remember just a month ago when Trump supporters were spiking the metaphorical football at the figurative coin toss?



Yeah, no. The DPRK doesn't want to play ball, they never truly did. And if they did, I very much doubt the clown car administration of being capable of any actual negotiations.

Negotiations with North Korea will likely be a long and drawn out process with many apparent setbacks. In the meantime I find it distasteful the way you guys cream yourselves every time the US has an apparent setback. It's almost like you're rooting for a nuclear war just to spite Trump.

 

[OrphanSlug]

Bound to happen, next to impossible to expect every interaction with North Korea to go well. Worse, there is a documented history of North Korea going with exaggerations, propaganda, outright falsehoods, etc.

Agreed with others, it is as if some here want a complete failure and possible war just to say it was Trump’s fault (and appreciate that coming from someone who already considers Trump to be in the top 3, of not at the top, of the worst Presidents in US history.)

 

[late]

Negotiations with North Korea will likely be a long and drawn out process with many apparent setbacks. In the meantime I find it distasteful the way you guys cream yourselves every time the US has an apparent setback. It's almost like you're rooting for a nuclear war just to spite Trump.

We lost, and we lost big.

 

[CMPancake]

Negotiations with North Korea will likely be a long and drawn out process with many apparent setbacks. In the meantime I find it distasteful the way you guys cream yourselves every time the US has an apparent setback. It's almost like you're rooting for a nuclear war just to spite Trump.

What's really sickening is how low of a bar you've set for international relations. If you truly cared about peace and denuclearazation, you'd be just as critical, if not more-so than you presently are.

It's like if Trump was tasked with cutting your birthday cake. But instead of cutting your cake, he drops his pants and just farts on the cake. The majority of people sitting at the table are upset about the lack of cutting done to the cake while you and others are proclaiming "Why aren't you guys happy there's cake at the table? It's almost as if you guys don't like cake."

 

[Hatuey]

Negotiations with North Korea will likely be a long and drawn out process with many apparent setbacks. In the meantime I find it distasteful the way you guys cream yourselves every time the US has an apparent setback. It's almost like you're rooting for a nuclear war just to spite Trump.

Lmao, from the side that cheered for everything Obama did.

Right?



Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.

 

[Praxas]

Negotiations with North Korea will likely be a long and drawn out process with many apparent setbacks. In the meantime I find it distasteful the way you guys cream yourselves every time the US has an apparent setback. It's almost like you're rooting for a nuclear war just to spite Trump.

It wasn’t just a month ago trump supporters were creaming themselves saying that Trump ended the Korean War and denuclearized NK. It isn’t that people are rooting for a nuclear war, they were countering the egotistical trump supporters acting like trump is some god negotiator when in reality he got played like a fool. We told trump supporters this would happen but as usual, they wouldn’t listen.

 

[Mycroft]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/07/world/asia/mike-pompeo-north-korea-pyongyang.html



Remember just a month ago when Trump supporters were spiking the metaphorical football at the figurative coin toss?



Yeah, no. The DPRK doesn't want to play ball, they never truly did. And if they did, I very much doubt the clown car administration of being capable of any actual negotiations.

Don't start waving your pom-poms yet.

As LowDown said, this is going to take a while and you can be sure there'll be a lot of useless rhetoric from both sides. That's all just part of these kinds of high level negotiations.

But keep in mind...the actions Trump took that GOT these negotiations going are still in effect. Despite the rhetoric, a deal WILL be made.

 

[cuban smokes]

"North Korea is no longer a nuclear threat" :lol:

"I trust Kim; we have a great relationship" :lamo

 

[Praxas]

Don't start waving your pom-poms yet.

As LowDown said, this is going to take a while and you can be sure there'll be a lot of useless rhetoric from both sides. That's all just part of these kinds of high level negotiations.

But keep in mind...the actions Trump took that GOT these negotiations going are still in effect. Despite the rhetoric, a deal WILL be made.

Sure it will and what excuse will you use when it doesn’t? Oh it must be the libruuuuuuls fault.

And according to trump he trusts North Korea and they are no longer a nuclear threat.:lamo

 

[MSgt]

Negotiations with North Korea will likely be a long and drawn out process with many apparent setbacks. In the meantime I find it distasteful the way you guys cream yourselves every time the US has an apparent setback. It's almost like you're rooting for a nuclear war just to spite Trump.

I believe the creaming is coming from the loyalists who wish to throw Trump a parade for merely Tweeting. What you see as a "setback," is only a setback because Trump and his band of misfit toys have managed to create a highly impractical end game to theirs and our national embarrassment. Nobody criticizing this crap sees setbacks. Matters would have had to have gone somewhere in order to introduce setbacks. I've been criticizing this crap from the beginning because it was always going to lead to exactly where we are right now.

Had we a proper President who would take the time to understand the issue beyond what he can exploit in order to temporarily parade himself around to his fans, we may be able to boast some actual steps in an actual process. In the meantime, you have bought into the idea that "nuclear war" was ever a threat. Every singe nation that developed nuclear weapons after the U.S. used them in Japan, have done so for defense.

 

[jimbo]

We lost, and we lost big.

What exactly did we lose?

 

[MSgt]

We lost, and we lost big.

But we consistently lose only because we constantly go into issues with ridiculous expectations and absurd demands. We have this bad habit.

We may as well ask the world to give up their first born and declare ourselves failures when they don't.

 

[Rogue Valley]

What exactly did we lose?

What exactly did Trump and all his fanfare on TV gain? Nothing beyond temporary hyperbole.

Kim never intended to denuclearize. He is instead increasing nuclear related activities.....

North Korea has increased nuclear production at secret sites, say U.S. officials

 

[Dittohead not!]

If there is ever to be a real agreement with North Korea to get rid of its nukes, it will have to be a multi national deal. China, Japan, South Korea, a lot of other nations are affected by Kim Jung Un and his habit of rattling the nuclear sabers. Given Trump's history of alienating the leaders of other nations, it looks like we'll have to wait until at least after 2020 to actually make any progress in defusing the threat posed by Kim and his slave nation.

And a man who thinks Kim Jung Un is a good guy and beloved by his people is not the judge of character needed to bring about such a multi national agreement.

 

[MSgt]

What exactly did we lose?

We lost more prestige.

- We are no longer the leaders who "won" the Cold War and then rushed to keep the area secure from nuclear weapon yard sales when the Soviet Union cracked apart.

- We are no longer the leaders who pulled the world together to bend Saddam Hussein over in order to declare what is and is not acceptable behavior from a nickel dictator.

BUSH: We are now the people who declare "Mission Accomplished" without understanding what we got ourselves into.

OBAMA: We are now the people who define a Foreign Policy around the idea that other nations get to dictate what we may or may not do for our security.

TRUMP: We are now the people who declare that a country is going to denuclearize without understanding that the world is more than a single man's need to stroke himself for a distinct following.

We have lost. We have been bumbling about since 9/11 because our leaders have been ignorant, spineless, uneducated, and simply stupid in a world that absolutely needs better from us.

 

[jimbo]

What exactly did Trump and all his fanfare on TV gain? Nothing beyond temporary hyperbole.

Kim never intended to denuclearize. He is instead increasing nuclear related activities.....

North Korea has increased nuclear production at secret sites, say U.S. officials

What exactly did we lose?

 

[late]

What exactly did we lose?

We lost Asia.

Go to the Asia forum, read some of my posts. I'm going for a bike ride. You will have some questions, and I will try to explain things for you. I do have a suggestion, read Asia Times, I've used that as a source for most of my Asia posts.

 

[jimbo]

We lost more prestige.

- We are no longer the leaders who "won" the Cold War and then rushed to keep the area secure from nuclear weapon yard sales when the Soviet Union cracked apart.

- We are no longer the leaders who pulled the world together to bend Saddam Hussein over in order to declare what is and is not acceptable behavior from a nickel dictator.

BUSH: We are now the people who declare "Mission Accomplished" without understanding what we got ourselves into.

OBAMA: We are now the people who define a Foreign Policy around the idea that other nations get to dictate what we may or may not do for our security.

TRUMP: We are now the people who declare that a country is going to denuclearize without understanding that the world is more than a single man's need to stroke himself for a distinct following.

We have lost. We have been bumbling about since 9/11 because our leaders have been ignorant, spineless, uneducated, and simply stupid in a world that absolutely needs better from us.

We haven't lost prestige. The talks with NoKo are a couple months old. A year we had no lines of communication open. Now we do. Expecting immediate results in a 75 year old problem will not happen.

The solution of the last guy in charge was to ignore the problem hoping it will go away or dropping pallets of unmarked cash on the runway and hoping the bad guy will suddenly become a really good guy. Neither works.

 

[jimbo]

We lost Asia.

Go to the Asia forum, read some of my posts. I'm going for a bike ride. You will have some questions, and I will try to explain things for you. I do have a suggestion, read Asia Times, I've used that as a source for most of my Asia posts.

We haven't lost Asia. We never had Asia.

Have a good ride. I will have no questions.

 

[LincolnRossiter]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/07/world/asia/mike-pompeo-north-korea-pyongyang.html



Remember just a month ago when Trump supporters were spiking the metaphorical football at the figurative coin toss?



Yeah, no. The DPRK doesn't want to play ball, they never truly did. And if they did, I very much doubt the clown car administration of being capable of any actual negotiations.

Hopefully Pompeo and the other few serious members of Trump’s national security team can make some meaningful progress here. The reality TV president and his fans need to realize that there’s a great deal more at stake than his kabuki theatre and its attendant optics.

 

[Cardinal]

Negotiations with North Korea will likely be a long and drawn out process with many apparent setbacks.

Yes, but will trump appreciate that lesson? From what I've seen, absorbing new information really isn't his forte. Also, will it teach him patience, discretion, and respect for the challenges his predecessors demonstrated and endured in such matters? Thus far, that would not seem to be the case.

 

[code1211]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/07/world/asia/mike-pompeo-north-korea-pyongyang.html



Remember just a month ago when Trump supporters were spiking the metaphorical football at the figurative coin toss?



Yeah, no. The DPRK doesn't want to play ball, they never truly did. And if they did, I very much doubt the clown car administration of being capable of any actual negotiations.

Seems like Trump's caution was justified in saying "We'll see."

I wonder if this Death to America gang of thugs would have been more compliant if we had relaxed the sanctions freeing up 150 billion in frozen assets and delivering a 1.5 billion dollar cash bribe.

Guess we'll never know. Trump isn't going to do this.

The sanctions go on for Korea. The money we sent to Iran is showing up in the terror being conducted by its puppets.

https://www.state.gov/j/ct/list/c14151.htm

 

[Cardinal]

Seems like trump was justified in saying "We'll see."

I wonder if this Death to America gang of thugs would have been more compliant if we had relaxed the sanctions freeing up 150 billion in frozen assets and delivering a 1.5 billion dollar cash bribe.

Guess we'll never know.

The sanctions go on for Korea. The money we sent to Iran is showing up in the terror being conducted by its puppets.

https://www.state.gov/j/ct/list/c14151.htm

If your bar had been set as low as "we'll see" for any other President, you would have declared Obama to be the greatest President that ever lived. But it's one standard for everybody else, and none for Trump.

 

[code1211]

Bound to happen, next to impossible to expect every interaction with North Korea to go well. Worse, there is a documented history of North Korea going with exaggerations, propaganda, outright falsehoods, etc.

Agreed with others, it is as if some here want a complete failure and possible war just to say it was Trump’s fault (and appreciate that coming from someone who already considers Trump to be in the top 3, of not at the top, of the worst Presidents in US history.)

By what measurable means do you gauge success during a presidential term?