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Nord Stream 2 Could Still End Up In "Investment Ruin"

propaganda [...] everse the inertia that is choke holding Nord Stream 2.
The propaganda is exclusively Western!

Nord Stream 2 was built to carry gas to Europe, not for fighting stupid political games. The "inertia" is nothing but deliberate political sabotage by Germany(likely pressured by the US) that results in absurd increases to energy prices for the entire EU - and it has an especially bad effect on Eastern Europe - which may lash out at Brussels and Berlin in unexpected ways, which may drastically change the EU or even lead to its collapse(ironically both the US and Russia would be happy with such an outcome)

Patience with Brussels, Berlin and the greens is running out in Europe!



15 Insurers Stop Doing Business with Nord Stream 2 Pipeline to Avoid Sanctions: Reuters​

There's a "consortium" of "investors" formed mainly of insurers(including Allianz and BNP Paribas) and pension funds(incl. from the US) which bribed the EC to push hard for "green energy" which is a major factor for the current situation. If the prices don't go down back to where they were say last year, these may pay a heavy price.
 
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The propaganda is exclusively Western!

Nord Stream 2 was built to carry gas to Europe, not for fighting stupid political games. The "inertia" is nothing but deliberate political sabotage by Germany(likely pressured by the US) that results in absurd increases to energy prices for the entire EU - and it has an especially bad effect on Eastern Europe - which may lash out at Brussels and Berlin in unexpected ways, which may drastically change the EU or even lead to its collapse(ironically both the US and Russia would be happy with such an outcome)

Patience with Brussels, Berlin and the greens is running out in Europe!




There's a "consortium" of "investors" formed mainly of insurers(including Allianz and BNP Paribas) and pension funds(incl. from the US) which bribed the EC to push hard for "green energy" which is a major factor for the current situation. If the prices don't go down back to where they were say last year, these may pay a heavy price.



You mean it is the EU consumer, and not Nord Stream 2 getting ruined?
 
The propaganda is exclusively Western!

Nord Stream 2 was built to carry gas to Europe, not for fighting stupid political games. The "inertia" is nothing but deliberate political sabotage by Germany(likely pressured by the US) that results in absurd increases to energy prices for the entire EU - and it has an especially bad effect on Eastern Europe - which may lash out at Brussels and Berlin in unexpected ways, which may drastically change the EU or even lead to its collapse(ironically both the US and Russia would be happy with such an outcome)

Patience with Brussels, Berlin and the greens is running out in Europe!

There's a "consortium" of "investors" formed mainly of insurers(including Allianz and BNP Paribas) and pension funds(incl. from the US) which bribed the EC to push hard for "green energy" which is a major factor for the current situation. If the prices don't go down back to where they were say last year, these may pay a heavy price.
Said the Kremlin Fanboi.

Because de Nile isn't only a river in Egypt. It's also denial of the fact of Kremlin propaganda to benefit Gazprom and its NS2 and their five Big Money investors in Europe: Wintershall Dea, Uniper who are two German Big Money guys already doing Big Business in Russia, OMV of Austria same, Engie of France and Shell. It's a Russian full court press propaganda campaign across Europe that is wide, deep, massive.

Moreover the tripling of energy prices in Europe this winter is due to several factors, to include increased demand in East Asia and SE Asia. Integral to the current and ongoing trebling of energy prices in Europe is the fact that while Putin continues to meet his long term gas contracts with Europe, he is this year declining to meet the additional demand beyond the modest contracts. So prices are at record highs.

Putin has also refused to replenish European gas reserves since the summer thereby leaving Europe in a greater lurch than he already imposes on the continent by his refusal to meet the greater demand that he normally meets each winter. Indeed, Putin's job is leader of Russia while his profession is Blackmailer Extraordinaire. A failed blackmailer besides.
 
Said the Kremlin Fanboi.


I am also a Kremlin Fanboi, am I allowed to voice my pro Kremlin opinions? Or are pro Russian opinions verboten :) ?


Putin has also refused to replenish European gas reserves since the summer thereby leaving Europe in a greater lurch than he already imposes on the continent by his refusal to meet the greater demand that he normally meets each winter. Indeed, Putin's job is leader of Russia while his profession is Blackmailer Extraordinaire. A failed blackmailer besides.


Tangmo, sometimes you make the work of pro Putin advocates so easy.:)

If German transports were backed up at Russian gas locations to buy gas and Putin was refusing to sell, then I can get the outcry. That is far from the case. Putin has actually put up close to ten billion dollars to construct a pipeline to Germany. The gas line is complete. All Germany has to do is turn on the spigot. If Germany choses not to open the spigot that is on Germany. The Russian dictator has done all that is humanly possible to provide gas to Germany.

Your last paragraph again displays the disconnect in your revendications that you never address. Since you want Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline killed, exactly how do you want Putin to replenish European gas reserves?
 
You mean it is the EU consumer, and not Nord Stream 2 getting ruined?
In September Gazprom/NS2 lost its case at the EU High Court, ie, pleading to the court to be accepted as an energy monopoly.

The Court ruled against Russia and Germany, saying EU law, rules, regs prohibit a monopoly over energy supply, transiting the supply, and distributing the energy supply to consumers. In this instance it's Russian gas throughout Europe.

Gazprom/NS2 and Germany had made a severe plea to the court saying not being a monopoly would "risk bankruptcy."

Nonetheless the Court upheld EU (and German law) that prohibits an energy monopoly on the continent. Specifically, Gazprom/NS2 must comply with the EU 2019 Gas Directive that requires a foreign supplier, namely Russia, to auction off 50% of its pipeline capacity to a corporation wholly independent and completely separate from itself. Gazprom/NS2 hasn't done this and hasn't made any moves to prepare to comply with the rule of law.

The Court further upheld the EU Third Energy Package of 2012 that requires a foreign supplier to auction off its distribution system to yet another corporation that is the same, ie, wholly independent and completely separate from Gazprom/NS2. After all, Gazprom is incorporated in Russia under Russian "law" while NS 2 AG is incorporated in Switzerland under Switzerland law. Indeed, the German energy regulator suspended consideration of pipeline certification unless and until, at a minimum, NS 2 AG also incorporates in Germany so that the corporation can operate in Germany under the authority of German law. This also means btw that NS 2 AG will need to incorporate under the energy laws of the EU and of each EU member state that hosts the pipelines, infrastructure, personnel resources.

Putin's Problem going back to 2012 is that he knew German and EU energy laws prohibited a foreign monopoly on the continent but he went ahead anyway with Gazprom/NS2 as a Kremlin owned and operated monopoly. Worse yet, Putin always intended to impose Gazprom/NS2 on Europe as his personal energy monopoly.

Putin at the EU High Court thought he was pulling a compelling card from up his sleeve when he pleaded the "risk of bankruptcy" if he can't have his monopoly. Well, as the Greens Energy Minister and Vice Chancellor Robert Habeck has pointed out -- together with the Greens Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock -- the pipeline project cannot and will not be certified as a monopoly. The Free Democrats in the coalition led by SPD agree and have always agreed -- FDP in fact wants a formal treaty agreement that compels Russia to comply with German law and EU law, and that guarantees Russian hands off Ukraine which itself can supply all of Europe's gas needs from Russia.

Hence the specter since the summer of NS2 "investment ruin." Because if Gazprom refuses to comply with German law and EU law it won't be certified. Yet if Gazprom/NS2 complies with the law it will go bankrupt. Hence Putin's fierce campaign of blackmail, his current and massive propaganda campaign and his 100,000+ troops at the Ukraine borders. So now it is up to the oligarchs of the Kremlin Mafia to possibly consider and decide whether Putin is any good for them any more.
 
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I am also a Kremlin Fanboi, am I allowed to voice my pro Kremlin opinions? Or are pro Russian opinions verboten :) ?





Tangmo, sometimes you make the work of pro Putin advocates so easy.:)

If German transports were backed up at Russian gas locations to buy gas and Putin was refusing to sell, then I can get the outcry. That is far from the case. Putin has actually put up close to ten billion dollars to construct a pipeline to Germany. The gas line is complete. All Germany has to do is turn on the spigot. If Germany choses not to open the spigot that is on Germany. The Russian dictator has done all that is humanly possible to provide gas to Germany.

Your last paragraph again displays the disconnect in your revendications that you never address. Since you want Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline killed, exactly how do you want Putin to replenish European gas reserves?
No matter how you slice that it's still baloney with borscht.

Moreover your pretentious and repeated questions are a strawman which surprises me not as it is expected of you and your chronic self righteous posturing.

I've been posting on the topic since 2019 that EU energy ministries have said there is no need of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline that delivers the same volume of gas to Europe as the Ukraine overland pipeline infrastructure always has delivered until recently.

A decade ago Putin forced central Asian former republics of the since kaput USSR to cease supplying Europe with their gas. Russia took that over, which left Ukraine as the last major obstacle to a direct Russo-German Geostrategic Axis of Energy into Europe. I'd like to think Merkel was had by it all yet it's long been absolutely clear the fat lady was always singing for Putin against the interests of EU, NATO, USA.

As the Greens Energy Minister Robert Habeck who is also Vice Chancellor points out, there are only two countries in Europe that have ever been all in for NS2: Germany and Austria. The vast majority of EU member states are either actively opposed, such as Poland and the Baltic states, or are passively opposed, such as France and Italy among many others. UK is clearly against the project speaking as it does, ie, essentially an outsider.

That is, NS2 is the proverbial turd in the punchbowl. Which brings us back full circle to Putin of course.
 
A decade ago Putin forced central Asian former republics of the since kaput USSR to cease supplying Europe with their gas. Russia took that over, which left Ukraine as the last major obstacle to a direct Russo-German Geostrategic Axis of Energy into Europe. I'd like to think Merkel was had by it all yet it's long been absolutely clear the fat lady was always singing for Putin against the interests of EU, NATO, USA.


You do have quite a grasp of this gas business. Even if one makes allowances for your spins, it still leaves an amazing detailed knowledge.
 
Several of Germany's NATO allies are urging the incoming coalition government to re-evaluate the controversial Russian Nord Stream 2 pipeline. According to critics, the approximately $10.75 billion project will also seriously undermine European Union and NATO security, handing Moscow a potent new weapon in its ongoing struggle with the West and further isolating Ukraine.
NATO needs to stay away from Ukraine. it would be a disaster to get sucked into war with Russia over Article 5
The US needs to stay out of Russia's and Germany's business as well - it's not ours
Ukraine want to suck up transit fees like it's some kind of natural given right..Stop being so corrupt and grow their own wealth instead
 
You do have quite a grasp of this gas business. Even if one makes allowances for your spins, it still leaves an amazing detailed knowledge.
Thx but your posts and numerous threads as a Putin Fanboi keep taking serious gas because you know so little of the sinister geostrategic nature of the Russo-German Axis of Energy against Europe, EU, NATO, the USA. Either that or you're simply on Putin's side, totally and completely. I see it as your being on Putin's side although independently, on your own. Independently because Putin the KGB lieutenant colonel when the whole thing fell apart would never send forward as a propagandist a person so ill informed as yourself. Nor would Putin or anyone he trusts send forward a person who consistently makes lousy arguments that immediately and repeatedly fall on their face. I've been posting about NS2 and the Russo-German Geostrategic Axis for three years during which I base my posts on legit research rather than try to cook up propaganda. So I've taken you for a spin more times than I can count thx again for playing which is exactly what you do.

Have a nice day for a change while always dancing to the Godfather Putin's tunes.
 
Thx but your posts and numerous threads as a Putin Fanboi keep taking serious gas because you know so little of the sinister geostrategic nature of the Russo-German Axis of Energy against Europe, EU, NATO, the USA. Either that or you're simply on Putin's side, totally and completely. I see it as your being on Putin's side although independently, on your own. Independently because Putin the KGB lieutenant colonel when the whole thing fell apart would never send forward as a propagandist a person so ill informed as yourself. Nor would Putin or anyone he trusts send forward a person who consistently makes lousy arguments that immediately and repeatedly fall on their face. I've been posting about NS2 and the Russo-German Geostrategic Axis for three years during which I base my posts on legit research rather than try to cook up propaganda. So I've taken you for a spin more times than I can count thx again for playing which is exactly what you do.

Have a nice day for a change while always dancing to the Godfather Putin's tunes.



Thanks for your compliments. :) You make Lavrentiy Beria look like a Saint.
 
Ukraine want to suck up transit fees like it's some kind of natural given right..Stop being so corrupt and grow their own wealth instead



Ukraine's belief in its natural right to suck up transit fees is one of the more bizarre aspects of this crisis.
 
Thanks for your compliments. :) You make Lavrentiy Beria look like a Saint.
No matter how you try to slice that it's still baloney with borscht.

And sauerkraut.

Executive director of Nord Stream 2 AG incorporated in Switzerland is Matthias Warnig. Good ol' Matthias was German Stasi in the cold war East Germany when Putin was KGB in East Germany the DDR, both of 'em meeting during their posting to Dresden.

BFF together for sure.

Who is Nord Stream's Matthias Warnig, Putin's friend from East Germany?​

Alexei Navalny's investigative video has been viewed millions of times. It mentions many Russians — and one German. How is Matthias Warnig, a business manager and former Stasi agent, involved?

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Matthias Warnig is the oldest German friend of Russian President Vladimir Putin and the most active German in Russian business circles. He is a former Stasi agent who became a banker in the 1990s. Since then, he has sat on the supervisory boards of numerous German-Russian banks and companies. He is currently the CEO of Nord Stream 2, and happens to play a part in the latest YouTube video by Alexei Navalny's Anti-Corruption Foundation (FBK), in which Russian opposition activists uncover an extensive network of corruption.



Take a bow Matthias Warnig the Stasi thug who came in from the cold war and who now runs NS2 from his safe haven in Switzerland.

Another prominent German BFF of Putin is the former SPD chancellor Gerhard Schroederovsky who days before voters evicted him from the chancellery signed Germany up for Nord Stream. Schroederovsky departed Germany for Russia immediately on leaving office to become chairman of NS2. Schroeder is also chairman of Rosneft. Schroederovsky soon after said Putin is the "perfect democrat."

Meanwhile back in Berlin Schroeder's successor and East German Angela Merkel quickly became yet another Putin BFF in or from Germany.

Transparency International calls this Kremlin Mafia incorporation of Germany into the Russian orbit the "State Capture" of the German elites of government, finance, the economy and industrial corporations. Nowhere is it more obvious and shamelessly so than in Nord Stream 2 AG.
 
While Biden lifted US sanctions against NS2 in May, in the wish that it would improve relations with Germany and get Germany onside against China, the Senate is about to enact the House passed new sanctions against Gazprom/NS2, project insurers and reinsurers, private companies that verify certification, investors to include German energy giants Uniper and Wintershall and more.

Drastically, the Democratic Party controlled House and Senate will strip Potus Biden of his power to waive these coming draconian sanctions that are designed to wreck NS2 completely and virtually instantly on their taking effect.

Indeed the major division remains clear, ie, the Biden executive offices in Washington and the Merkel executive offices in Berlin have allowed the pipeline to proceed, while the legislative in both Brussels and Washington are against it completely.

In January last year the European Parliament voted a Resolution 580-52 to stop the pipeline ever operating. In Washington an overwhelmingly bipartisan Congress voted sanctions that had stopped the pipeline for more than 13 months and is now preparing to vote new severe sanctions by Jan. 17 to stop the sucker once and for all.

The Institute for the Study of War in Washington published this last month....

NORD STREAM 2 POSES A LONG-TERM NATIONAL SECURITY CHALLENGE​

FOR THE US AND ITS ALLIES​

Nord Stream 2 is a threat to Europe’s security and to Ukraine’s independence. This pipeline will change the geopolitical landscape in Europe for years to come. The Kremlin continues to use energy as a weapon, and NS2 will be no exception. The Kremlin is using the ongoing energy crisis in Europe to force NS2’s certification. Putin could have increased gas delivery to Europe amid soaring prices through existing infrastructure, but he chose not to.[13] Instead, Putin called on Germany to approve NS2, stating that Russia will use NS2 to “expand supplies” after the pipeline is certified.[14] This approach is energy blackmail, and the West must recognize it as such.


NS2 is more than an economic and political pressure tool; the Kremlin will leverage NS2 to drive divisions within and among the United States and its EU/NATO partners—one of Putin’s longstanding objectives. NS2 will make both Germany and Europe more vulnerable—not more resilient—US partners, including in the US competition with China. Putin has invested the time and effort of some of the Kremlin’s most senior officials in NS2 over an extended period, indicating the project’s importance. This exertion should have been an indicator for the United States and Germany early on that NS2 was more than an economic undertaking. The United States giving in on NS2 to strengthen ties with Germany [as Biden is doing], even as part of an effort to pivot NATO to a China focus, is ineffective and counterproductive as it weakens commitments and trust within the alliance. US policy must strengthen the entire NATO commitment to defend itself, including all its members, against the continuing Russian threat. Stopping or delaying NS2 is a good place to start, even now.



In Berlin the Greens and the Free Democrats have a signed agreement with Chancellor Scholz of the historically Russia Hugging SPD to let the regulators in Berlin and in Brussels apply the anti monopoly laws of Germany and the EU to the
Putin-Merkel Pipeline, ie, to deny certification. The Russian deputy foreign minister talked gloom and doom for the pipeline just yesterday so it seems a new dawn is beginning to rouse the Kremlin to face the new reality: "investment ruin."
 
It looks that Potus Biden has won over fellow Democrats in the Senate to kill the sanctions amendment scheduled for a vote before Jan. 17 as offered by Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz. This would be a huge setback for Cruz.

The Biden-Blinken logic that is prevailing among Democratic Party Senators is that the draconian sanctions proposed by Cruz would kill NS2 before the Putin Pipeline can be used by Biden, EU, NATO, as leverage against Putin invading Ukraine. U.S. death star sanctions would take the pipeline out of the picture before Putin would decide about Ukraine, ie, whether to send in Russian troops or not to send 'em in.

Biden, Blinken, German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock presently in Washington agree there should be no US sanctions that would kill the pipeline dead on the spot voted at this time. It's further agreed Biden, EU, NATO need to have the pipeline in their dealings with Putin about Ukraine.

SecState Blinken is swaying fellow Democrats in the Senate not to vote sanctions so Biden and the Europeans can continue to have the pipeline to use against Putin initiating military action against Ukraine. “Some may see Nord Stream 2 as leverage that Russia can use against Europe," Blinken and allies continue to argue. "In fact, it’s leverage for Europe to use against Russia.”


From Roll Call daily journal that has a long time focus on Congress....

The Biden administration and some experts are arguing against using sanctions to doom the pipeline, which they now say serves as important leverage in discouraging Russian President Vladimir Putin from ordering the tens of thousands of troops he’s massed on Ukraine’s border to invade the eastern European country. “What I worry about with the legislation that Sen. Cruz is talking about is he’s going to take the hostage and shoot it first, and that means it has no influence on the calculations in Russia,” Steven Pifer, a former ambassador to Ukraine and a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, said in an interview. “It’s fine if you want to punish the Russians, but it’s a really stupid move if you’re trying to prevent a war between Russian and Ukraine. I can understand, but if you want to use it as a foreign policy tool, the administration is trying with some success to make [the pipeline] a hostage.”



German regulators have indefinitely paused their approval process of the pipeline amid rising alarm in Europe about Putin’s military mobilization along Ukraine’s border. “This pipeline does not have gas flowing through it at present, and if Russia renews its aggression toward Ukraine it would certainly be difficult to see gas flowing through it in the future,” Blinken said Wednesday following a meeting at Foggy Bottom with Germany’s new foreign minister, Annalena Baerbock. “Some may see Nord Stream 2 as leverage that Russia can use against Europe," he added. "In fact, it’s leverage for Europe to use against Russia.” Pifer said he expects if Putin does attack Ukraine, then the new German coalition government – viewed as somewhat more willing than its predecessor to put political principles before trade when it comes to Russia – would kill the pipeline or Biden would sanction it to death.




The long and the short of it is that NS2 will be used as a sword of Damocles among other sharp objects hurled against Putin should he invade Ukraine, to include Russia being tossed from the SWIFT global interbank transaction system in Belgium that moves $5 Trillion a day.
 
It looks that Potus Biden has won over fellow Democrats in the Senate to kill the sanctions amendment scheduled for a vote before Jan. 17 as offered by Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz. This would be a huge setback for Cruz.

The Biden-Blinken logic that is prevailing among Democratic Party Senators is that the draconian sanctions proposed by Cruz would kill NS2 before the Putin Pipeline can be used by Biden, EU, NATO, as leverage against Putin invading Ukraine. U.S. death star sanctions would take the pipeline out of the picture before Putin would decide about Ukraine, ie, whether to send in Russian troops or not to send 'em in.

Biden, Blinken, German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock presently in Washington agree there should be no US sanctions that would kill the pipeline dead on the spot voted at this time. It's further agreed Biden, EU, NATO need to have the pipeline in their dealings with Putin about Ukraine.

SecState Blinken is swaying fellow Democrats in the Senate not to vote sanctions so Biden and the Europeans can continue to have the pipeline to use against Putin initiating military action against Ukraine. “Some may see Nord Stream 2 as leverage that Russia can use against Europe," Blinken and allies continue to argue. "In fact, it’s leverage for Europe to use against Russia.”


From Roll Call daily journal that has a long time focus on Congress....

The Biden administration and some experts are arguing against using sanctions to doom the pipeline, which they now say serves as important leverage in discouraging Russian President Vladimir Putin from ordering the tens of thousands of troops he’s massed on Ukraine’s border to invade the eastern European country. “What I worry about with the legislation that Sen. Cruz is talking about is he’s going to take the hostage and shoot it first, and that means it has no influence on the calculations in Russia,” Steven Pifer, a former ambassador to Ukraine and a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, said in an interview. “It’s fine if you want to punish the Russians, but it’s a really stupid move if you’re trying to prevent a war between Russian and Ukraine. I can understand, but if you want to use it as a foreign policy tool, the administration is trying with some success to make [the pipeline] a hostage.”



German regulators have indefinitely paused their approval process of the pipeline amid rising alarm in Europe about Putin’s military mobilization along Ukraine’s border. “This pipeline does not have gas flowing through it at present, and if Russia renews its aggression toward Ukraine it would certainly be difficult to see gas flowing through it in the future,” Blinken said Wednesday following a meeting at Foggy Bottom with Germany’s new foreign minister, Annalena Baerbock. “Some may see Nord Stream 2 as leverage that Russia can use against Europe," he added. "In fact, it’s leverage for Europe to use against Russia.” Pifer said he expects if Putin does attack Ukraine, then the new German coalition government – viewed as somewhat more willing than its predecessor to put political principles before trade when it comes to Russia – would kill the pipeline or Biden would sanction it to death.




The long and the short of it is that NS2 will be used as a sword of Damocles among other sharp objects hurled against Putin should he invade Ukraine, to include Russia being tossed from the SWIFT global interbank transaction system in Belgium that moves $5 Trillion a day.



You are out of tune with Kiev. Kuleba wants sanctions now. Not after Zelensky is heading a government in exile in Warsaw
 
You are out of tune with Kiev. Kuleba wants sanctions now. Not after Zelensky is heading a government in exile in Warsaw
What I post is what I post.

My allegiance is to the United States and the Atlantic Alliance.

Putin will lose NS2 if he commits his invasion force into Ukraine. So he'd better take over all of Ukraine cause he'll need it and all of their overland pipelines. Russia gets tossed from the SWIFT interbank global transfer system which puts its economy belly up while its financial system goes under. Super soon and very quickly.

Expectation now is that Putin will do three things. Send additional troops into Donbas to finish the take no prisoners takeover. Send troops to reinforce the Belarus borders at Poland and NATO. Send troops to flank the NATO strategic Suwalki Gap Corridor. Suwalki connects Poland and the Baltics but runs between Belarus and Kaliningrad. Which makes Suwalki extremely vulnerable to easy Russian seizure. Which means the Baltics would be next for Putin.

The strategic significance of Russians in Belarus and Kaliningrad vis a vis Suwalki in between 'em cannot be overstated. They affect NATO’s general strategy, the escalation ladder, nuclear aspects, political dimension, cohesion of the alliance, and so on. So given the projected scenario, no one knows where this goes next.
 
What I post is what I post.

My allegiance is to the United States and the Atlantic Alliance.

Putin will lose NS2 if he commits his invasion force into Ukraine. So he'd better take over all of Ukraine cause he'll need it and all of their overland pipelines. Russia gets tossed from the SWIFT interbank global transfer system which puts its economy belly up while its financial system goes under. Super soon and very quickly.

Expectation now is that Putin will do three things. Send additional troops into Donbas to finish the take no prisoners takeover. Send troops to reinforce the Belarus borders at Poland and NATO. Send troops to flank the NATO strategic Suwalki Gap Corridor. Suwalki connects Poland and the Baltics but runs between Belarus and Kaliningrad. Which makes Suwalki extremely vulnerable to easy Russian seizure. Which means the Baltics would be next for Putin.

The strategic significance of Russians in Belarus and Kaliningrad vis a vis Suwalki in between 'em cannot be overstated. They affect NATO’s general strategy, the escalation ladder, nuclear aspects, political dimension, cohesion of the alliance, and so on. So given the projected scenario, no one knows where this goes next.



My feeling is that we may be drawing towards end of Act I. There will be no invasion. Now that's my feeling, not necessarily what Putin will do. To some extent the dictator already has what he is asking for. It highly unlikely Georgia will get 27 thumbs up for Nato accession. Belarus is out of play. Ukraine too is. Contrary to what Jens "hot air" Stoltenberg claims, Nato accession can be vetoed.

The Zelensky Mafia just seized the properties of Poroshenko. The Ukrainian KGB accuses him of Treason! Talk about playing it straight from Laverentiy Beria's playbook. "Show me the man, and I will find you the crime", Beria. The gloves are coming off in Kiev. And Putin does not appear to be in it.

The dictator will punt the ball. It's not like Ukraine can just up and leave. Ukraine will be there if and when the curtain goes up for Act II
 
My feeling is that we may be drawing towards end of Act I. There will be no invasion. Now that's my feeling, not necessarily what Putin will do. To some extent the dictator already has what he is asking for. It highly unlikely Georgia will get 27 thumbs up for Nato accession. Belarus is out of play. Ukraine too is. Contrary to what Jens "hot air" Stoltenberg claims, Nato accession can be vetoed.

The Zelensky Mafia just seized the properties of Poroshenko. The Ukrainian KGB accuses him of Treason! Talk about playing it straight from Laverentiy Beria's playbook. "Show me the man, and I will find you the crime", Beria. The gloves are coming off in Kiev. And Putin does not appear to be in it.

The dictator will punt the ball. It's not like Ukraine can just up and leave. Ukraine will be there if and when the curtain goes up for Act II
Your Beloved Dictator and his General Staff know they don't have the force strength to invade and occupy Ukraine which is the largest country in Europe-Eurasia. NATO fully recognizes this reality besides. Accordingly, and as my post you quote indicates, Putin in Ukraine is expected to limit himself to sending forces into Donbas to finish the take no prisoners job of annexing it either officially or unofficially.

What you're posting about Georgia, Belarus and Ukraine is already well known by US and British intelligence, NATO and Ukraine intelligence. Your post however is a fragment given you don't present anything about what you call Your Beloved Dictator's Act II. That is, US and allied intelligence know Putin is more anxious and excited than ever about NATO and that he will act accordingly. Stated more directly Putin wants to send troops to reinforce the Belarus border at Poland and NATO.

Further, Your Beloved Dictator wants to flank the Suwalki Gap Corridor that is between Russian forces in both Kaliningrad and Belarus because the corridor connects Poland and thus NATO to the Baltic states. Indeed every Pfc in NATO knows Suwalki is indefensibe in a conflict unless NATO goes nuclear at the tactical level. And that if Putin ever moves militarily against Suwalki it means he's moving against the Baltics too.

Which is why this is a hot situation that isn't going to be settled or stablized anytime soon. As for NS2, regulators in Germany and then at the EU Commission will have it tied up indefinitely, which is why the word started to circulate last summer of an "investment ruin" for Putin, Gazprom/NS2 and his European Big Bucks Backers of the ill fated pipeline.
 
Your Beloved Dictator and his General Staff know they don't have the force strength to invade and occupy Ukraine which is the largest country in Europe-Eurasia. NATO fully recognizes this reality besides. Accordingly, and as my post you quote indicates, Putin in Ukraine is expected to limit himself to sending forces into Donbas to finish the take no prisoners job of annexing it either officially or unofficially.

What you're posting about Georgia, Belarus and Ukraine is already well known by US and British intelligence, NATO and Ukraine intelligence. Your post however is a fragment given you don't present anything about what you call Your Beloved Dictator's Act II. That is, US and allied intelligence know Putin is more anxious and excited than ever about NATO and that he will act accordingly. Stated more directly Putin wants to send troops to reinforce the Belarus border at Poland and NATO.

Further, Your Beloved Dictator wants to flank the Suwalki Gap Corridor that is between Russian forces in both Kaliningrad and Belarus because the corridor connects Poland and thus NATO to the Baltic states. Indeed every Pfc in NATO knows Suwalki is indefensibe in a conflict unless NATO goes nuclear at the tactical level. And that if Putin ever moves militarily against Suwalki it means he's moving against the Baltics too.

Which is why this is a hot situation that isn't going to be settled or stablized anytime soon. As for NS2, regulators in Germany and then at the EU Commission will have it tied up indefinitely, which is why the word started to circulate last summer of an "investment ruin" for Putin, Gazprom/NS2 and his European Big Bucks Backers of the ill fated pipeline.




Stay on your own lane. I will speak for me beloved dictator and you will speak for the Zelensky Mafia.
 
Stay on your own lane. I will speak for me beloved dictator and you will speak for the Zelensky Mafia.
Thingy is you've never driven with a full tank at anytime in this.

Running on empty.

Always.

You.
 
Thingy is you've never driven with a full tank at anytime in this.

Running on empty.

Always.

You.



I should know better than you. Gas up your Ukrainian klunker.
 
I should know better than you. Gas up your Ukrainian klunker.
Soon after this Putin announced the super sucker would not be mass produced.

For one thingy it's super expensive.

For another thing it's Russian high tech junk.

Either way, Russia can't afford it.


T-14 Armata Russian super tank FAIL​

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May 7, 2015

T-14 Armata Russian super tank FAIL The best ever Russian tank T-14 Armata fails on Red Square




So the Russian military is still stuck with its thousands of old time tanks that break down just as much as this new Armata. The Big Difference between old and new is that Russia currently has thousands the old tanks while it would have to spend tons of money it doesn't have to produce the new Klunker, the Armata.

Yet there's no difference between the old and the new Russian tanks, ie, all of 'em break down anyway.
 
Soon after this Putin announced the super sucker would not be mass produced.

For one thingy it's super expensive.

For another thing it's Russian high tech junk.

Either way, Russia can't afford it.


T-14 Armata Russian super tank FAIL​

511,017 views
May 7, 2015

T-14 Armata Russian super tank FAIL The best ever Russian tank T-14 Armata fails on Red Square




So the Russian military is still stuck with its thousands of old time tanks that break down just as much as this new Armata. The Big Difference between old and new is that Russia currently has thousands the old tanks while it would have to spend tons of money it doesn't have to produce the new Klunker, the Armata.

Yet there's no difference between the old and the new Russian tanks, ie, all of 'em break down anyway.





I am sure Ukraine cannot wait to take on those Russian klunkers. :)
 
I am sure Ukraine cannot wait to take on those Russian klunkers. :)
Eager Beaver that you are for a Russian major military action against Ukraine.

Knowing full well Putin will take no prisoners in Donbas.

And the West will hammer Russia with unprecedented and draconian sanctions economic and financial. Knock your guys flat on their fat arses.
 
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