Pacridge
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I'm going to add this to my list of reasons why Rumsfeld needs to be hung up by his ears.Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has made no secret of his desire to cut education: As soon as he arrived at the Pentagon three years ago, commanders report Rumsfeld began asking: "Why am I in education?"
Reducing funding to off base schooling:I see no issue with reducing funding to OFF BASE schools. I can see Don's point. He is paying for defense and not education.
As far as ON BASE schooling, that is a different matter altogether.
How does any of this have anything to do with removing troops from any overseas location? As for it being :spin: a good deal of what I posted came from the Army Times (as cited). Yeah, maybe you're right you really can't trust that liberal rag.vauge said:But, I also have to wonder if this is from Bush's plan remove our troops from Europe and is a :spin:?
I don't think so, for the most part these are military families and organizations that assist them reporting the effects of the Bush cut's in their benefits.vauge said:Didn't say it WAS a spin, just wondering.
If they remove troops from anywhere that was considered permanent, I would not dought if we hear stuff like this. While accurate in numbers, it could be a false premise.
With a reduction in troops stationed overseas (mainly USAREUR) the need for support activities is reduced. It's pretty easy to see that the DoD school's fiscal requirements would be significantly reduced with a large withdrawal from a common acompanied tour such as Germany.How does any of this have anything to do with removing troops from any overseas location?
:ytLiberalFINGER said:With a reduction in troops stationed overseas (mainly USAREUR) the need for support activities is reduced. It's pretty easy to see that the DoD school's fiscal requirements would be significantly reduced with a large withdrawal from a common acompanied tour such as Germany.
Without taking the cuts due to relocating troops, we can see that there is a pretty constant trend in the reduction of funding for support activities such as education. The truth is that these activities do not appear to have a tangible impact on our nations ability to fight and are therefore seen as a burden.
So then explain the cut's Bush is making to the programs.LiberalFINGER said:With a reduction in troops stationed overseas (mainly USAREUR) the need for support activities is reduced. It's pretty easy to see that the DoD school's fiscal requirements would be significantly reduced with a large withdrawal from a common acompanied tour such as Germany.
Without taking the cuts due to relocating troops, we can see that there is a pretty constant trend in the reduction of funding for support activities such as education. The truth is that these activities do not appear to have a tangible impact on our nations ability to fight and are therefore seen as a burden.
Could you imagine if a president ever pushed paying soldiers what they're worth, increasing DoD education budgets, significantly increasing MWR spending, and at the same time keeping our armed forces on the leading edge of technology? I wouldn't vote for him because I would know he was a lying bastard.
Only the people in the trenches fully understand the effects of quality of life.
This statement, although sad, is very true. I would like to thank you for throwing the numbers in there and adding a little more credibility to it.Without taking the cuts due to relocating troops, we can see that there is a pretty constant trend in the reduction of funding for support activities such as education. The truth is that these activities do not appear to have a tangible impact on our nations ability to fight and are therefore seen as a burden.
It's not the republicans who screw the military. It's not the democrats. It's everyone. EVERYONE.Could you imagine if a president ever pushed paying soldiers what they're worth, increasing DoD education budgets, significantly increasing MWR spending, and at the same time keeping our armed forces on the leading edge of technology? I wouldn't vote for him because I would know he was a lying bastard.
Only the people in the trenches fully understand the effects of quality of life.
I didn't throw any number in there, as noted I simply pasted it from the Army Times article and from a Washington Post article.LiberalFINGER said:"Bush's 2004 budget recommends cuts of $172 million, or 14 percent, in payments called 'impact aid'" – the program that funds schools on or near military bases. "The program is set to fall by more than 30 percent, to $435 million from $635 million – much of that affecting children of troops that have served in Iraq. For example, uniformed personnel at Fort Hood, home to the 1st Cavalry and 4th Infantry, send almost 17,000 students to Killeen and Copperas Cove public schools. [A new] analysis found that Bush's proposed cuts in impact aid would reduce Killeen's school budget by $22 million, or 13 percent, while Copperas Cove would lose $9.6 million, or 22 percent. The report found a similar effect for the 3rd Mechanized Infantry Division at Fort Stewart, Ga., the 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade at Camp Lejeune, N.C., and the 101st Airborne at Fort Campbell, Ky. The White House [is] not disputing that it is cutting the impact aid." 12-05-2004 12:43 AM
Yes, you raise a very valid point, but I think you might have been a bit quick to lay Fact Pavement all over and didn't read the second paragraph.
This statement, although sad, is very true. I would like to thank you for throwing the numbers in there and adding a little more credibility to it.
We've watched military benefits get torn to shreds for nearly 3 decades. That is why I added this to my post:
It's not the republicans who screw the military. It's not the democrats. It's everyone. EVERYONE.
Point of clarification:I didn't throw any number in there, as noted I simply pasted it from the Army Times article and from a Washington Post article.
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