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No state has met 14-day drop in cases for reopening

I guess we just have to hope that states will be responsive and responsible enough to re-shutter if cases start spiking.

If or when the next shutdown happens, I call on people like you to chip in and bear the cost burden out of your own wallets for all the unemployed workers. The rest of us who love our constitutional rights can keep our money. Deal?
 
The objective, for some, is to have us stay closed forever. As soon as some progress is made they come up with another reason things are going to explode. The bottom line is that a whole lot of people LOVE the idea of a government that does everything for them and guides their daily lives. They feel safer that way.

Maybe they also feel that staying closed is the best way to beat Trump. I mean, they didn't get the plague death toll they wanted and probably won't so the next best bet is to get a decimated economy.

This^ As we recover we are seeing more and more restrictions not less. People need to stop with the power grab and get the nation going. This is getting beyond ridiculous now.
 
The point is there shouldn’t be pressure to reopen if it’s not safe to do so.

So what are we going to do? Wait until Corona is completely eradicated from the face of the earth before giving the all-clear? Some of you just amaze me.
 
No state has met 14-day drop in cases for reopening

No state that has opted to reopen has come close to the federally recommended 14 consecutive days of declining cases.

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Not only has no state met the White House Guideline of 14 consecutive days of declining COVID hospitalizations, but many re-opening states such as Georgia actually have increasing daily COVID hospitalizations.

Colorado is opening, somewhat. Some counties are still doing stay-at-home, and our reopening is staged over the month while keeping an eye on the numbers. We'll see what happens, I'm hoping we can intelligently soft-open without respiking numbers.

The States that are opening will play the part of guinea pig.
 
This^ As we recover we are seeing more and more restrictions not less. People need to stop with the power grab and get the nation going. This is getting beyond ridiculous now.

Everyone hates that everything is shut down. If nobody's open, then nobody's making taxable income. It's always some insane conspiracy with you people. The virus doesn't care how ridiculous you think it is. If you "reopen" you're going to see the infection rate spike again and you'll be back to where you were before.
 
So what are we going to do? Wait until Corona is completely eradicated from the face of the earth before giving the all-clear? Some of you just amaze me.

What is it with the absolutes? Do you think we should reopen if it's unsafe to do so?
 
So what are we going to do? Wait until Corona is completely eradicated from the face of the earth before giving the all-clear? Some of you just amaze me.

Yes, the people who didn't suggest any such thing amaze you. Do you think re-opening while infection and death rates are this high is safe?
 
If or when the next shutdown happens, I call on people like you to chip in and bear the cost burden out of your own wallets for all the unemployed workers. The rest of us who love our constitutional rights can keep our money. Deal?

I'm working, thanks, so i am chipping in as well as helping. Unfortunately, most of it is going to print money for the rich. Perhaps the dumbest dolt among them will someday become our next Republcan president.
 
What is it with the absolutes? Do you think we should reopen if it's unsafe to do so?

If a large percentage of the USA population tested positive and many more passed away then I could understand a call for action. As it stands, a rather small percentage of the entire population is Corona-positive - not enough in my mind to force everyone to be shut-ins and push the economy off a cliff.
 
No state has met 14-day drop in cases for reopening

No state that has opted to reopen has come close to the federally recommended 14 consecutive days of declining cases.

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Not only has no state met the White House Guideline of 14 consecutive days of declining COVID hospitalizations, but many re-opening states such as Georgia actually have increasing daily COVID hospitalizations.

Yeup. What good are guidelines if they are not being followed. Same here in the DFW area, Dallas County actually had their highest death count Yesturday. Sadly the Governor's edict overrides those set in place by local authorities. DFW a d the rest of Texas is starting our Phase 1 opening on Friday, some places opening, and in two weeks they will open Restaurants, Gyms, and other high risk business that is if there is no spike. Then again our Governor outright lied when he stated that the cases were dropping over the last two weeks so hence why they were reopening. Being that Texas is near the bottom when it comes to testing and Republicans running the show that worry more about money than people's lives I think I can counting on fully opening in two weeks. When, not if, the cases start spiking and the People realize that the Governor never stated it is actually Safe, they will have some decisions to make next election. Funny how a tiny vurus can change a State from Red to Blue in such a short time but we can count on a lot of changes coming.
 
If a large percentage of the USA population tested positive and many more passed away then I could understand a call for action. As it stands, a rather small percentage of the entire population is Corona-positive - not enough in my mind to force everyone to be shut-ins and push the economy off a cliff.

Your post is completely nonsensical. If a large percentage of the population tested positive and many more passed away it would be because it's too late to implement restrictions. So you're saying that because the restrictions have been successful, that we should repeal them so more can die.
 
I'm working, thanks, so i am chipping in as well as helping. Unfortunately, most of it is going to print money for the rich. Perhaps the dumbest dolt among them will someday become our next Republcan president.

Here we go with the political labels. I'm independent and don't really care who is president, but what I said was those of you who call for shutdowns should be the ones who bear the entire cost burden for all the people out of work. The rest of us who want to reopen can have some tax relief.
 
Your post is completely nonsensical. If a large percentage of the population tested positive and many more passed away it would be because it's too late to implement restrictions. So you're saying that because the restrictions have been successful, that we should repeal them so more can die.

The number of cases continue to rise and so do deaths despite the shelter-in-place mandates. What proof do we have that social distancing is working 100 percent?
 
Here we go with the political labels. I'm independent and don't really care who is president, but what I said was those of you who call for shutdowns should be the ones who bear the entire cost burden for all the people out of work. The rest of us who want to reopen can have some tax relief.

cool. Let's test everyone and see what we're looking at first.
 
Yes, the people who didn't suggest any such thing amaze you. Do you think re-opening while infection and death rates are this high is safe?

This high? One percent of the entire population is Corona-positive, and it's even less than that in many parts of the country. Meanwhile, we went from 3% unemployment to 15%. I'm more concerned about the latter.
 
May 1st is the partial reopening date here in Texas. The stay at home order is expiring on the 30th. Masks are also no longer a requirement, which supersedes all local orders requiring masks.

Keep practicing you safe procedures and sit it out for a couple of weeks so that we see what happens. I think they are asking for trouble by opening what many consider too soon, in fact the majority of Texans think this is not a good idea. Sadly this stupid idea is going to cost more than a few peoples their or their family members life. The going to be hell to pay political for some.
 
The number of cases continue to rise and so do deaths despite the shelter-in-place mandates. What proof do we have that social distancing is working 100 percent?

Do you think the infection rate is higher or lower because of social distancing?
 
The objective, for some, is to have us stay closed forever.

Really? Who are the "Some" that you're identifying? I don't know of even 1 person, especially a politician, who wants us to stay closed forever. What a canard! Shame on anyone who suggests such nonsense. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE wants to return to our lives pre-Covid-19. I live in Manhattan and I only go outside 3 times a day to walk my dog. I've not left my block since March 11th. I've not been in a store since March 11th. We get groceries delivered. Someone dies from Covid-19 in NY State every 5 minutes (actually less than that).

I CAN'T WAIT TO BE ABLE TO REOPEN THIS AMAZING CITY AND TO RETURN TO MY LIFE!

"Some people" who believes that...Can't we just realize that this is an emotional time, everyone is under stress and people are anxious?
 
So what are we going to do? Wait until Corona is completely eradicated from the face of the earth before giving the all-clear? Some of you just amaze me.

Once again someone is posting a BS point as if anyone suggested or even hinted that Covid-19 needs to be eradicated first! What compels someone to write such a ridiculous suggestion?
 
The number of cases continue to rise and so do deaths despite the shelter-in-place mandates. What proof do we have that social distancing is working 100 percent?

Nothing works 100% but the reason why you are seeing higher rates is....wait for it.....some people don't listen to the guidelines. So your answer is to just lose all the guidelines and let's spread the disease FASTER so more people can die FASTER. Great plan man. :roll:
 
If a large percentage of the USA population tested positive and many more passed away then I could understand a call for action. As it stands, a rather small percentage of the entire population is Corona-positive - not enough in my mind to force everyone to be shut-ins and push the economy off a cliff.

Really? How do you know that considering less than 2% of the entire population has been tested and let's not forget that if you tested negative today it doesn't mean that you won't get it tomorrow. Uninformed posts make my head spin!
 
Everyone hates that everything is shut down. If nobody's open, then nobody's making taxable income. It's always some insane conspiracy with you people. The virus doesn't care how ridiculous you think it is. If you "reopen" you're going to see the infection rate spike again and you'll be back to where you were before.

Sorry but it isnt the "MILLIONS DEAD you people" predicted and is never going to be. This is like cutting off your arm to fix a hangnail. We are still hovering at around the same danger as second hand smoke deaths. Hardly worth destroy the nation and peoples jobs and life savings.
 
Keep practicing you safe procedures and sit it out for a couple of weeks so that we see what happens. I think they are asking for trouble by opening what many consider too soon, in fact the majority of Texans think this is not a good idea. Sadly this stupid idea is going to cost more than a few peoples their or their family members life. The going to be hell to pay political for some.

Nevada, unless the governor issues a continuance of the order for shutdown or another type of order, is set to automatically open May 1st. The misses and I are planning on laying low for 3 more weeks to see how things go. I don't think this is going to go well for people.
 
Thankfully, some states will not bother worrying about whatever metrics Trump has dreamed up and will open up as it is safe for them to do so.
 
The number of cases continue to rise and so do deaths despite the shelter-in-place mandates. What proof do we have that social distancing is working 100 percent?

Huh? What? Can you not understand that without Shelter-In-Place the numbers would be exponentially greater? Even with the restrictions more than 50,000 Americans have died in the month of April, 2020. 50,000! We're grieving as a nation and some of you can only think of how this affects you personally, everyone else can "go to hell." Shameful!
 
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