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According to Merriam-Webster these federal workers are not actually furloughed, but more like on paid leave with full benefits_
In fact; classifying them as "furloughed" makes them eligible for unemployment benefits in addition to their regular pay_
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Furlough - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
1fur·lough
noun \ˈfər-(ˌ)lō\
: a period of time when an employee is told not to come to work and is not paid
According to Merriam-Webster these federal workers are not actually furloughed, but more like on paid leave with full benefits_
In fact; classifying them as "furloughed" makes them eligible for unemployment benefits in addition to their regular pay_
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Furlough - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
1fur·lough
noun \ˈfər-(ˌ)lō\
: a period of time when an employee is told not to come to work and is not paid
According to Merriam-Webster these federal workers are not actually furloughed, but more like on paid leave with full benefits_
In fact; classifying them as "furloughed" makes them eligible for unemployment benefits in addition to their regular pay_
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Furlough - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
1fur·lough
noun \ˈfər-(ˌ)lō\
: a period of time when an employee is told not to come to work and is not paid
You do realize that you have to be out of work for a considerable amount of time to get unemployment? And that in order to get unemployment benefits, you have to be actively looking for a job, which they check on, correct?
I have no experience with "unemployment" policies and procedures but thousands are reportedly already signing up_You do realize that you have to be out of work for a considerable amount of time to get unemployment? And that in order to get unemployment benefits, you have to be actively looking for a job, which they check on, correct?
You do realize that you have to be out of work for a considerable amount of time to get unemployment? And that in order to get unemployment benefits, you have to be actively looking for a job, which they check on, correct?
I have no experience with "unemployment" policies and procedures but thousands are reportedly already signing up_
Unemployment Insurance? For the Furloughed, It Might Just Be a Loan - Businessweek
"Already thousands of employees have applied for coverage. In Virginia, for example, 959 federal workers submitted claims on the first five business days of the shutdown, according to Fogg. That figure doesn’t include contractors who have been furloughed. All told, she said, the state saw 3,500 more claims last week than the average for the five prior weeks. In Maryland, meanwhile, more than 16,000 furloughed workers have filed claims, according to the Baltimore Sun—four times the typical rate."
These are spoiled pampered federal employees who operate on a totally separate set of standards than does the private sector_Not true, they are not eligible to receive both unemployment and frulough pay. Currently (IIRC) the back pay has not been approved, the those EE are on furlough.
I believe though it's a pretty safe bet that the furloughed employees will receive back pay, which if they have drawn unemployment benefits from the state it will be considered an overpayment and the state can go back for the money. There are various methods that individual state will use. They file the overpayment and send you a bill. When you have outstanding money owed to the state they have a variety of avenues to encourage you to return the money such as bill collection or withholding services (for example not renewing a drivers license, keeping tax refunds that are due), or having pay docked.
Most states pretty much function the same way.
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"If federal employees are later paid for time not worked, the payment will be considered back pay and it will result in an overpayment of any unemployment compensation benefits paid," ADOL said in the announcement.
Furloughed federal workers impacted by government shutdown can now file for unemployment online | al.com
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NOTE: If Federal employees are later paid for time not worked, the payment will be considered back pay and it will result in an overpayment of any unemployment insurance benefits paid.
Federal Shutdown 2013 - Unemployment Insurance Procedures - Unemployment Insurance Claimants
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NOTE: If Congress decides employees who were previously placed on non pay status shall be paid for the time not worked, any benefits paid will be an overpayment and you may be required to repay any overpaid unemployment benefits during the period of your furlough.
Federal Shutdown ? Unemployment Benefits for Furloughed Workers | Unemployment Insurance
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According to Merriam-Webster these federal workers are not actually furloughed, but more like on paid leave with full benefits_
In fact; classifying them as "furloughed" makes them eligible for unemployment benefits in addition to their regular pay_
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Furlough - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
1fur·lough
noun \ˈfər-(ˌ)lō\
: a period of time when an employee is told not to come to work and is not paid
These are spoiled pampered federal employees who operate on a totally separate set of standards than does the private sector_
These are spoiled pampered federal employees who operate on a totally separate set of standards than does the private sector_
IMO; your assumption that the powers that be would require them to pay back unemployment benefits is a giant leap of faith_
Although I certainly do hope your faith in the system is well deserved and my low opinion of it is somehow unfounded_
Of course they can sign up. They are currently on furlough. The back pay legislation has not passed through the Congress yet. It has passed the House, (IIRC) Obama has indicated support, but it has not been taken up by the Senate. Therefore the employees are in a non-pay status and eligible for unemployment. Future changes could change that, but that is the way it is as of today.
If the legislation passes in the future, then the situation will be different.
If the legislation is approved, then they will not be eligible for unemployment and if they have received any they will owe it back to the State as an "overpayment".>>>>
I find it curious that anyone would receive back pay for not working :thinking:screwy
Thom Paine
I find it curious that anyone would receive back pay for not working :thinking:screwy
Thom Paine
Some of them were told to come back to work but they don't know if they are going to get paid for coming back to work, like the civilian in my husband's office. He is working but doesn't know if he will get paid for this time yet or not.
Thom Paine said:I find it curious that anyone would receive back pay for not working
Depends on the situation. In this case, the employer seems to be saying to the workers that they are not to come in to work, and that they will receive pay as if they had. Since the employer is the one telling the employee what to do, if the employee complies, they ought to be paid.
Thom Paine said:I accept your response as sincere... If anything near that is the case it is only Gov. employment.... It is no such application in civilian industry.
Well, I've seen it a few times in my experience both as an employee and an employer. It is pretty rare, but it happens when the employer experiences a situation in which they literally cannot operate for a short period, but also don't want to lose their experienced employees. For example: at one of the companies for which I worked, we once had a catastrophic storm which came and knocked out not only our servers but also power to most of the city. I was head of purchasing at the time, which function we had just recently brought back in house (long story). We had no choice but to send people home. But I paid them for the day because I was aware that without those employees, the company would tank. I didn't want to give them any reason to even think about looking for another job at that point.
However, I'm not sure this is anything more than a description of what is. It doesn't seem to have much to do with what should be.
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