No, Antifa are GREAT guys!

[ReverendHellh0und]

I don't "support" anyone getting beat up...but at the same time, as I've said before, I wouldn't piss on a Nazi if they were on fire, I certainly wouldn't spend a butterfly fart's worth of effort "supporting" them *not* getting beaten up for the stupid **** that comes out of their mouths.

At least, this is where I've landed for now - look at my posts from last week, when I was a lot madder about it all, and they would seem a lot more aligned with having everyone go out and start throwing bricks. After a cool down period, though, I'm leaning a lot more toward indifference towards the violence others aim at them, because their moral position makes it completely impossible for me to offer them a shred of support.

Would you piss on a commie if he was on fire?

 

[OlNate]

oh that's easy.


Do you view communists as equally bad as nazis? yes or no.

Which Communists? Which Nazis? Sorry, you made a pretty firm assertion, why are you asking me questions now? I thought you had it all figured out.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

Which Communists? Which Nazis? Sorry, you made a pretty firm assertion, why are you asking me questions now? I thought you had it all figured out.

the same communists and nazis we have all been talking about.

 

[OlNate]

the same communists and nazis we have all been talking about.

So, basically your assertion was incorrect, you *don't* know that it's not the same?

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

So, basically your assertion was incorrect, you *don't* know that it's not the same?

You are being obtuse because you don't have have the testicular fortitude to state publically that you support antifa, who are every bit as bad as the nazis they fight. in many cases worse.

 

[cabse5]

In fact yes it is
With Antifa's facsim

I do not need to worry that neo Nazi's will come and kill my step son or my wife
I do not need to worry that my east indian neighbor will be rounded up in the middle of the night and sent to a camp to be killed
I do not need to worry that my filippino neighbors will not have their house burned down in the middle of the nigh
I do not need to worry my black neighbors will be hung

I just need to worry that (and it is not a worry as I would never do it) if I marched with Neo Nazis the KKK and Aryan Nations I could get beaten

So yes Antifa's fascism is light years better than those of neo nazi's

I'm guessing you aren't white, 'cause if you were, you'd be worrying and fretting the left would do all those dastardly things to you that you itemize fascists doing.

 

[roughdraft274]

American as apple cake! EXACTLY LIKE our boys in WWII! Captain America made flesh!

Antifa Boston:

https://twitter.com/AntifaBoston/status/898941130133438468

'Coz nothing says that like chanting "all cops are bastards!" while burning Old Glory. I think that was the motto of the Eighth Air Force. Omar Bradley might have sported the tattoo.

Who said they were great? Im not sure I've seen a single person on these boards express their love of antifa.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

Who said they were great? Im not sure I've seen a single person on these boards express their love of antifa.

Actually several have.


keep your eyes open you will see.

 

[cabse5]

Of course Antifa's fascism is better. To be completely honest with you when the choice is between Nazis and someone else I'm pretty much going to go with someone else every time.

So you admit antiFA - antiFirstAmendment - is fascist.

 

[OlNate]

You are being obtuse because you don't have have the testicular fortitude to state publically that you support antifa, who are every bit as bad as the nazis they fight. in many cases worse.

Nah, I was just interested in how you were so sure of what I believe...still curious, since you seem so very sure I support antifa. I could direct you to other posts of mine on the forum that might refute what you're saying, but you seem to have it all figured out, and especially given how you conducted yourself the last time we talked, not really looking to get in a deep and dirty with you. I was just wondering how you came to that assertion, but I see that it's just more of the usual from you. As you were.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

Nah, I was just interested in how you were so sure of what I believe...still curious, since you seem so very sure I support antifa. I could direct you to other posts of mine on the forum that might refute what you're saying, but you seem to have it all figured out, and especially given how you conducted yourself the last time we talked, not really looking to get in a deep and dirty with you. I was just wondering how you came to that assertion, but I see that it's just more of the usual from you. As you were.

I asked you directly. either answer or I'll just assume your a closet antifa supporter. your choice.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

I'm guessing you aren't white, 'cause if you were, you'd be worrying and fretting the left would do all those dastardly things to you that you itemize fascists doing.

You guess wrong

I am as white as they come. German-Scottish ancestry.

The left does not have as part of its ideology racial supremacy. Aryan Nations, the KKK and white nationalists do. The left does not have as part of it's ideology, racial cleansing, the creation of a white homeland in North America. The KKK, Aryan Nations and white nationalists do

What I do have is an immediate neighbor who is from Bangladesh, he and his family are Muslim, he is an accountant his daughter and my son play together. My other immediate neighbor is Filipino, he works for the cable company, his wife is a nurse and they have 3 children, the youngest is 3. All good people. I could go further and mention the people just on my side of the street, which include, Chinese, Indians of Sikh, Hindu, and Muslim faiths. A good 30% of the block I live on is an ethnic minority if not a higher percentage.

I live in Canada which to many Americans is already very far left. I also live in the province which in the past was a hot bed of white supremacists back in the 80s and early 90s (more specifically Aryan Nations and skin heads). I understand that should the Alberta economy crash, such groups could gain quite a bit of strength and actually be able to threaten the well being of my neighbors. They can not right now as they are weak and have few members, but it can change and change relatively quickly

Such groups are like a bacterial infection, it can be contained forever, but if the patient becomes sick, that infection can grow and become a serious issue.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

You guess wrong

I am as white as they come. German-Scottish ancestry.

The left does not have as part of its ideology racial supremacy. Aryan Nations, the KKK and white nationalists do. The left does not have as part of it's ideology, racial cleansing, the creation of a white homeland in North America. The KKK, Aryan Nations and white nationalists do

What I do have is an immediate neighbor who is from Bangladesh, he and his family are Muslim, he is an accountant his daughter and my son play together. My other immediate neighbor is Filipino, he works for the cable company, his wife is a nurse and they have 3 children, the youngest is 3. All good people. I could go further and mention the people just on my side of the street, which include, Chinese, Indians of Sikh, Hindu, and Muslim faiths. A good 30% of the block I live on is an ethnic minority if not a higher percentage.

I live in Canada which to many Americans is already very far left. I also live in the province which in the past was a hot bed of white supremacists back in the 80s and early 90s (more specifically Aryan Nations and skin heads). I understand that should the Alberta economy crash, such groups could gain quite a bit of strength and actually be able to threaten the well being of my neighbors. They can not right now as they are weak and have few members, but it can change and change relatively quickly

Such groups are like a bacterial infection, it can be contained forever, but if the patient becomes sick, that infection can grow and become a serious issue.

You live in canada, a white nationalist paradise where the country is 84% white.

 

[Harshaw]

Who said they were great? Im not sure I've seen a single person on these boards express their love of antifa.

:shrug: Look harder.

 

[ludin]

I agree. Captain America is a hypocrite!

(Hail Hydra.)

I was never really a captain american fan. still not.
more of a hulk guy or fantastic four.

although i do like the infinity watch.

 

[ludin]

You are being obtuse because you don't have have the testicular fortitude to state publically that you support antifa, who are every bit as bad as the nazis they fight. in many cases worse.

actually they fight anyone that doesn't agree with their view on things. too me that is a bit more dangerous.
i mean they are attacking innocent people just because. pretty dangerous if you ask me not sure what else needs to be said.
alt-right and antifa need to be opposed by common every day citizens.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

actually they fight anyone that doesn't agree with their view on things. too me that is a bit more dangerous.
i mean they are attacking innocent people just because. pretty dangerous if you ask me not sure what else needs to be said.
alt-right and antifa need to be opposed by common every day citizens.

that's what I mean by "in many cases, worse"..... they attack anyone they disagree with and call them nazis. there are several incidents around the country proving this, as well as thier history prior to thier recent noteriety. they have always been known to attack those with differing views.

 

[roughdraft274]

:shrug: Look harder.

Yea, I kind of figured that I'd get a bunch of "It's all over!" type posts rather than a flood of examples of people actually expressing how great they are. Funny how that works.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

Yea, I kind of figured that I'd get a bunch of "It's all over!" type posts rather than a flood of examples of people actually expressing how great they are. Funny how that works.

Peter King, Cigar, Ol Nate. fort starters.


there was a poster dem socialist who hasn't been around in a while who actually flew thier colors in his signature. red dave I believe did as well.

 

[OlNate]

I asked you directly. either answer or I'll just assume your a closet antifa supporter. your choice.

Oh, based on this conversation thus far, I'm sure you'll go ahead and assume whatever you like regardless of what I say, don't let me stop you.

In the meantime, thanks for clearing things up. Have a good one, Rev.

 

[Harshaw]

Yea, I kind of figured that I'd get a bunch of "It's all over!" type posts rather than a flood of examples of people actually expressing how great they are. Funny how that works.

Ask William Rea. Ask d0gbreath.

 

[roughdraft274]

I asked you directly. either answer or I'll just assume your a closet antifa supporter. your choice.

Peter King, Cigar, Ol Nate. fort starters.

So in order to prove the rampant love of Antifa here you list a member that you literally are threatening to label him a supporter if he doesn't answer your question? Thanks for reminding me why I ignore most of your posts.

 

[Harshaw]

Yup.

Happens every time someone identified or potentially identifiable as being "on the right" does something awful: thread after thread pops up on DP about incidents where someone identified or potentially identifiable as being "on the left" do their own supposedly bad things. It's as if they want to imply some bizarre false equivalence as a defensive mechanism.

So, for example, ever since that nazi scum murdered multiple people and injured far more at the rally, we have something like 10-15 threads on DP taking aim at various things vaguely in the ballpark of When Libruls Misbehave; threads about antifa people being violent, threads about antifa people saying mean things to cops (the horror! THE HORROR!), threads about neo-nazis or suspected neo-nazis being injured.

Of course, the people who start such threads never admit their purpose. But I don't suppose we really need them to when we can look at the fact that those many threads did not exist until the person-on-the-right did the very bad thing.

Antifa has been in the news all year, and there have been threads about them for months. People didn't start making threads about them just because of Charlottesville.

A smattering, of many:

https://www.debatepolitics.com/gene...sts-use-urine-feces-poisonous-gas-police.html

https://www.debatepolitics.com/west/290198-politically-violent-portland.html

https://www.debatepolitics.com/brea...after-antifascists-threaten-gop-marchers.html

https://www.debatepolitics.com/gene...ger-threat-russia-berkeley-protest-assad.html

https://www.debatepolitics.com/gene...fa-scum-possibly-outed-college-professor.html

https://www.debatepolitics.com/brea...ech-breitbarts-milo-yiannopoulos-w-497-a.html

So now it's not a legitimate topic anymore, 'coz Nazis?

This one, for example, is rather entertaining in light of your post, because it has reliably Left people like Phys251 and Visbek saying "but CONSERVATIVES!" in a thread about Antifa violence in Portland, and lo and behold, even though you yourself participated in the thread, you didn't call them out for what you're complaining about here.

https://www.debatepolitics.com/brea...er-protesters-hurl-bottles-molotov-cockt.html

 

[Mr Person]

Yup.

Happens every time someone identified or potentially identifiable as being "on the right" does something awful: thread after thread pops up on DP about incidents where someone identified or potentially identifiable as being "on the left" do their own supposedly bad things. It's as if they want to imply some bizarre false equivalence as a defensive mechanism.

So, for example, ever since that nazi scum murdered multiple people and injured far more at the rally, we have something like 10-15 threads on DP taking aim at various things vaguely in the ballpark of When Libruls Misbehave; threads about antifa people being violent, threads about antifa people saying mean things to cops (the horror! THE HORROR!), threads about neo-nazis or suspected neo-nazis being injured.

Of course, the people who start such threads never admit their purpose. But I don't suppose we really need them to when we can look at the fact that those many threads did not exist until the person-on-the-right did the very bad thing.

Antifa has been in the news all year, and there have been threads about them for months. People didn't start making threads about them just because of Charlottesville.

A smattering, of many:

https://www.debatepolitics.com/gene...sts-use-urine-feces-poisonous-gas-police.html

https://www.debatepolitics.com/west/290198-politically-violent-portland.html

https://www.debatepolitics.com/brea...after-antifascists-threaten-gop-marchers.html

https://www.debatepolitics.com/gene...ger-threat-russia-berkeley-protest-assad.html

https://www.debatepolitics.com/gene...fa-scum-possibly-outed-college-professor.html

https://www.debatepolitics.com/brea...ech-breitbarts-milo-yiannopoulos-w-497-a.html

So now it's not a legitimate topic anymore, 'coz Nazis?

This one, for example, is rather entertaining in light of your post, because it has reliably Left people like Phys251 and Visbek saying "but CONSERVATIVES!" in a thread about Antifa violence in Portland, and lo and behold, even though you yourself participated in the thread, you didn't call them out for what you're complaining about here.

https://www.debatepolitics.com/brea...er-protesters-hurl-bottles-molotov-cockt.html

Another dishonest post. As you know perfectly well, I never claimed that nobody had ever posted about antifa until now. As you know perfectly well, I was talking about how about 10-15 popped up immediately after the nazi killed and injured people at the rally.




Anyway, no need to respond. I have no interest in getting sucked into yet another twisting rabbit hole in which the goalposts fly about faster than Superman. I have no interest in yet another debate about whether or not each of us typed certain words on a prior page, about whether or not someone is being too specific or too generalized in their language, or in playing any other of the familiar but tired debate board games.

 

[Harshaw]

Another dishonest post. As you know perfectly well, I never claimed that nobody had ever posted about antifa until now. As you know perfectly well, I was talking about how about 10-15 popped up immediately after the nazi killed and injured people at the rally.

Umm . . . no.

What you were referring to, specifically, in your own words was:

Happens every time someone identified or potentially identifiable as being "on the right" does something awful: thread after thread pops up on DP about incidents where someone identified or potentially identifiable as being "on the left" do their own supposedly bad things. It's as if they want to imply some bizarre false equivalence as a defensive mechanism.

And . . .

Of course, the people who start such threads never admit their purpose. But I don't suppose we really need them to when we can look at the fact that those many threads did not exist until the person-on-the-right did the very bad thing.

If you made ANY allowance for a whole slew of threads about Antifa being made under conditions other than that, it did not actually appear in the words you typed onto the screen.

I made a perfectly fair reading of your post.

It's YOU who looks like you're trying to weasel out of it. At best, you're a very poor writer who did not convey what he meant. Blaming the reader for the sins of the writer is poor form.

Anyway, no need to respond. I have no interest in getting sucked into yet another twisting rabbit hole in which the goalposts fly about faster than Superman. I have no interest in yet another debate about whether or not each of us typed certain words on a prior page, about whether or not someone is being too specific or too generalized in their language, or in playing any other of the familiar but tired debate board games.

Given your post and the nonsense it was revealed to be, never mind your own personal hypocrisy contained therein, I don't blame you for abandoning it.