(Newsweek) JB Pritzker Looking at Prosecuting ICE Agents in Chicago

[Variant]

Federal agents have no special immunity to law, any more than state or local enforcement has.

We have qualified immunity, but that is strictly for lawsuits.

Mostly police officers aren't usually charged because of prosecutorial discretion.

The guy who shot a priest in the face with a pepper ball doesn't deserve such deference.



This is just an assault.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Trump will just pardon them and they know it given what he did with the Jan 6th rioters. Basically you have thousands of LE with virtually free rein to do as they wish. Think about that for a minute!

Traitor Trump can’t pardon anyone convicted on state charges.

 

[cpwill]

JB Pritzker looking at prosecuting ICE agents in Chicago

Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker has suggested that state prosecutors might examine the conduct of ICE agents.

www.newsweek.com

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Illinois Governor Pritzker is attempting to build criminal cases against individual ICE agents and administrators, both currently and after a change of administrations.

We need to remember, besides his billionaire and governor status, he is a member of the Illinois Bar and the recipient of a Northwestern University J.D.

Consequently, Pritzker's singing a constant mantra to the public of, "document, document, document".

He implores this mantra at virtually every public appearance, and it appears he, the States Attorneys, and the City Corporation Counsel, are now sitting on an ever growing trove of video and other evidence submitted by the public and news orgs.

Pitzker is thought to be in the running for the Dem '28 Presidential nomination. But to be honest, he might best serve the American public interest as U.S. Attorney General.

Regardless - Pritzker is unambiguous in his words to the Administration, DHS, and ICE:

"The tables will turn one day"

This makes me think he's running for President. Surely he's aware of Qualified Immunity.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Trump looks in better shape these days than the triple chin hog neck Pritzker.

Really isn’t saying anything.

 

[Variant]

This makes me think he's running for President. Surely he's aware of Qualified Immunity.

Qualified immunity covers civil lawsuits.

 

[AConcernedCitizen]

Yep.

That's what happened with the guy ICE ran over from behind while was walking in a parking lot. Local police want to charge, but he can't identify the agent driving due to their wearing masks over their faces.

In fact, Broadview PD has at least 6 or 7 (last I saw) open criminal cases like this - that are stalled due to the inability to identify the agents due to their wearing masks along with ICE's lack of cooperation in local criminal investigation.

Obstructing justice is still a crime isn't it? Anyone at ICE who refuses to identify ICE agents to law enforcement should be charged with it.

 

[Integrityrespec]

JB Pritzker looking at prosecuting ICE agents in Chicago

Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker has suggested that state prosecutors might examine the conduct of ICE agents.

www.newsweek.com

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Illinois Governor Pritzker is attempting to build criminal cases against individual ICE agents and administrators, both currently and after a change of administrations.

We need to remember, besides his billionaire and governor status, he is a member of the Illinois Bar and the recipient of a Northwestern University J.D.

Consequently, Pritzker's singing a constant mantra to the public of, "document, document, document".

He implores this mantra at virtually every public appearance, and it appears he, the States Attorneys, and the City Corporation Counsel, are now sitting on an ever growing trove of video and other evidence submitted by the public and news orgs.

Pitzker is thought to be in the running for the Dem '28 Presidential nomination. But to be honest, he might best serve the American public interest as U.S. Attorney General.

Regardless - Pritzker is unambiguous in his words to the Administration, DHS, and ICE:

"The tables will turn one day"

He needs to shut the hell up. He's ridiculous.

 

[Athanasius68]

They CANNOT arrest or deport American citizens. The do this anyway.



Typically ICE violates the rules around Terry stops and tends to wrongfully hold people for longer than allowed periods of time. This needs to stop.




It is NOT illegal to protest.

The NG is being used to harass blue states. Denying is lying.

American citizens are not being deported. If you think otherwise, you really need to take a step back and take a deep breath.

I have no doubt though that ICE has detained American citizens. As out resident homicide detective will no doubt agree, sometimes innocent people are arrested. The issue is what happens then.

If ICE keeps holding people after they have established they are American citizens (assuming no other issue) then that is a legit issue to be addressed.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

American citizens are not being deported. If you think otherwise, you really need to take a step back and take a deep breath.

Actually, they are.

Turn the Faux off.

ICE deported 3 children who are U.S. citizens, their families’ lawyers say​

ICE deported 3 children who are U.S. citizens, their families' lawyers say

Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers have in recent days deported the Cuban-born mother of a 1-year-old girl — separating them indefinitely — and three children ages 2, 4 and 7 who are U.S. citizens along with their Honduran-born mothers, their lawyers said Saturday.

www.pbs.org

Bodysa, 4, With Cancer Deported by ICE Despite Being US Citizen, Lawsuit Says​

Boy, 4, with cancer deported by ICE despite being US citizen, lawsuit says

The complaint says the deportation occurred without adequate notice, legal counsel, or arrangements for the child's medical care.

www.newsweek.com

ICE in hot water: Dozens of US citizens wrongfully deported in shocking immigration blunderICE in hot water: Dozens of US citizens wrongfully deported in shocking immigration blunder​

ICE in hot water: Dozens of US citizens wrongfully deported in shocking immigration blunder

ICE deported U.S. citizens—a shocking report has revealed that at least 70 American citizens were wrongfully deported by ICE between 2015 and 2020, with over 600 more detained or arrested by mistake. The GAO report shows ICE often fails to verify citizenship before taking action. In many cases...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

DO NOT defend the ICE gestapo. It looks bad.

I have no doubt though that they have detained American citizens. As out resident homicide detective will no doubt agree, sometimes innocent people are arrested. The issue is what happens then.

ICE needs to be told to stay the **** away from American citizens. They also need to be banned from hospitals, churches, schools, and court houses.

A U.S. Citizen Detained by ICE for Three Days Tells His Story​

George Retes is a 25-year-old U.S. Army veteran who served a tour in Iraq. On July 10, while on his way to work as a security guard at a Southern California cannabis farm, he was detained by federal immigration agents, despite telling them that he is an American citizen and that his wallet and identification were in his nearby car, Retes told me. While arresting him, the agents knelt on his back and his neck, he said, making it difficult for him to breathe. Held in a jail cell for three days and nights, he was not allowed to make a phone call, see an attorney, appear before a judge, or take a shower to wash off pepper spray and tear gas that the agents had used, according to the Institute for Justice, a

A U.S. Citizen Detained by ICE for Three Days Tells His Story

A conversation with George Retes, an Army veteran swept up in a California raid

www.theatlantic.com

If ICE keeps holding people after they have established they are American citizens (assuming no other issue) then that is a legit issue to be addressed.

It's not going to stop until the ICE gestapo is disbanded all of the racist goon coward nazi scumbags working there are sitting in a cell.

 

[Absentglare]

I think obvious crimes can and should be prosecuted, but if they are federal agents acting to enforce a presidential order -- its gonna be difficult to nab them on that. Even if the Presidential Order is found later to be illegal or wrong, you cant go back and retroactively punish the individual agents for acting on what they had every reason to believe was a lawful order by the President.

I see people here saying that State Law would supercede federal law, but my very very limited understanding of Constitutional law would ssay that this is probably not a very accurate statement. Certainly its not that simple. State Law cannot supercede Federal Law in a matter that is usually the perview of the federal government -- such as immigration and border enforcement. It just cant, thats basically the whole point of having a federal government.

Pritzker's best bet would seem to be getting these individuals on clear violations of state law, that do not have anyything to do with federal law, or even violations of federal law. So, arresting someone perhaps without reading their miranda rights, unlawful search and seizure, unlawful detainment, violation of due process, etc. Those are violations of Federal law too, so in those are good cases to nab some of these ICE cowboys.

“Just following orders” is literally an infamous Nazi defense. And it didn’t fly the first time, so why in the **** should it apply now?

Superior orders - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Absentglare]

This makes me think he's running for President. Surely he's aware of Qualified Immunity.

People actually don’t like having paramilitary thugs injure, threaten, and terrorize their civilians.

These are acts of war against a state.

 

[cpwill]

People actually don’t like having paramilitary thugs injure, threaten, and terrorize their civilians.

Correct. That is why support for sending mass deportation is still above 50%, but support for "how Trump is handling immigration" is below 50%.

These are acts of war against a state.

Incorrect. These are in no way actions of war against the State

 

[Ho Ho Ho!]

Good. **** ICE.

Why?

 

[Absentglare]

Correct. That is why support for sending mass deportation is still above 50%, but support for "how Trump is handling immigration" is below 50%.

Appeal to popularity.

Incorrect. These are in no way actions of war against the State

Oh right, when another state deploys its military in your territory and you don’t want them to, what do you call it?

 

[cpwill]

Appeal to popularity.

.... no, it was an agreement in response to your point that

People actually don’t like having paramilitary thugs injure, threaten, and terrorize their civilians.

no more an "argumentum ad populum" than your own statement.

Oh right, when another state deploys its military in your territory and you don’t want them to, what do you call it?

The Federal Government.

 

[Absentglare]

.... no, it was an agreement in response to your point that

no more an "argumentum ad populum" than your own statement.

My statement was about the governor.

Still, it’s despicable how all the folks who support these militant radical terrorist actions from ICE and Trump’s attempt to deploy the military are people who don’t live anywhere near the affected areas.

Reminds me of how in Germany, the AfD supporters who hate the Muslim immigrants live mainly in East Germany where there are very few Muslim immigrants.

The Federal Government.

A civil war is still a war.

 

[LouC]

(Newsweek) JB Pritzker Looking at Prosecuting ICE Agents in Chicago.​

Cool.

 

[Anthony60]

Illinois Governor Pritzker is attempting to build criminal cases against individual ICE agents and administrators, both currently and after a change of administrations.
We need to remember, besides his billionaire and governor status, he is a member of the Illinois Bar and the recipient of a Northwestern University J.D.
Consequently, Pritzker's singing a constant mantra to the public of, "document, document, document".
He implores this mantra at virtually every public appearance, and it appears he, the States Attorneys, and the City Corporation Counsel, are now sitting on an ever growing trove of video and other evidence submitted by the public and news orgs.
Pitzker is thought to be in the running for the Dem '28 Presidential nomination. But to be honest, he might best serve the American public interest as U.S. Attorney General.
Regardless - Pritzker is unambiguous in his words to the Administration, DHS, and ICE:

"The tables will turn one day"

This is just a fat, unamerican slob running his Stalinist mouth. What a blithering disgrace he is.

 

[LouC]

This is just a fat, unamerican slob running his Stalinist mouth.

Way to go to encapsulate our sitting President.

What a blithering disgrace he is.

Yes, yes, he, Donald Trump is truly is a disgrace.

 

[Athanasius68]

Actually, they are.

Turn the Faux off.

ICE deported 3 children who are U.S. citizens, their families’ lawyers say​

ICE deported 3 children who are U.S. citizens, their families' lawyers say

Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers have in recent days deported the Cuban-born mother of a 1-year-old girl — separating them indefinitely — and three children ages 2, 4 and 7 who are U.S. citizens along with their Honduran-born mothers, their lawyers said Saturday.

www.pbs.org

Bodysa, 4, With Cancer Deported by ICE Despite Being US Citizen, Lawsuit Says​

Boy, 4, with cancer deported by ICE despite being US citizen, lawsuit says

The complaint says the deportation occurred without adequate notice, legal counsel, or arrangements for the child's medical care.

www.newsweek.com

ICE in hot water: Dozens of US citizens wrongfully deported in shocking immigration blunderICE in hot water: Dozens of US citizens wrongfully deported in shocking immigration blunder​

ICE in hot water: Dozens of US citizens wrongfully deported in shocking immigration blunder

ICE deported U.S. citizens—a shocking report has revealed that at least 70 American citizens were wrongfully deported by ICE between 2015 and 2020, with over 600 more detained or arrested by mistake. The GAO report shows ICE often fails to verify citizenship before taking action. In many cases...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

DO NOT defend the ICE gestapo. It looks bad.




ICE needs to be told to stay the **** away from American citizens. They also need to be banned from hospitals, churches, schools, and court houses.

A U.S. Citizen Detained by ICE for Three Days Tells His Story​

George Retes is a 25-year-old U.S. Army veteran who served a tour in Iraq. On July 10, while on his way to work as a security guard at a Southern California cannabis farm, he was detained by federal immigration agents, despite telling them that he is an American citizen and that his wallet and identification were in his nearby car, Retes told me. While arresting him, the agents knelt on his back and his neck, he said, making it difficult for him to breathe. Held in a jail cell for three days and nights, he was not allowed to make a phone call, see an attorney, appear before a judge, or take a shower to wash off pepper spray and tear gas that the agents had used, according to the Institute for Justice, a

A U.S. Citizen Detained by ICE for Three Days Tells His Story

A conversation with George Retes, an Army veteran swept up in a California raid

www.theatlantic.com

It's not going to stop until the ICE gestapo is disbanded all of the racist goon coward nazi scumbags working there are sitting in a cell.

You are citing a few issues where the choice was to separate families or deport just a parent.
I am sorry, but 'birth tourism' should not be accepted.

As far as the others, make the necessary reforms.
But-- somebody has to enforce immigration laws.
That's a non-negotiable.

 

[CaughtInThe]

MAGA goes on and on about stopping the brown lawbreakers but then they turn around and cheer the ICE lawbreakers and the January 6th lawbreakers.

It's almost like there's a racial component to it.

 

[j brown's body]

You are citing a few issues where the choice was to separate families or deport just a parent.
I am sorry, but 'birth tourism' should not be accepted.

As far as the others, make the necessary reforms.
But-- somebody has to enforce immigration laws.
That's a non-negotiable.

Sad to see such low regard for one's fellow citizens.

But that's where we're at today.

 

[cpwill]

My statement was about the governor.

Ah. So when you said "People", you didn't mean "people", but "person."

A civil war is still a war.

True. I've seen civil wars. This isn't that. This isn't even in the same ballpark as that.

 

[MTAtech]

Trump will just pardon them and they know it given what he did with the Jan 6th rioters. Basically you have thousands of LE with virtually free reign to do as they wish. Think about that for a minute!

As others have said, Trump can't pardon for state crimes. The difficulty is building a case against individuals. The Gov. will have to have state police arrest armed ICE agents, perhaps inviting a confrontation. I have no doubt if ICE agents that assaulted peaceful were prosecuted, they'd be found guilty. I suspect many of them are Proud Boys.

A future Democratic Justice Dept., if there ever is one, can use the RICO statute to prosecute higher-ups, under the legal theory this was an organized effort of intimidation.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

You are citing a few issues where the choice was to separate families or deport just a parent.
I am sorry, but 'birth tourism' should not be accepted.

As far as the others, make the necessary reforms.

The best reform is the abolition of ICE.

But-- somebody has to enforce immigration laws.
That's a non-negotiable.

It's not going to be the current ICE gestapo. Mask-wearing Nazi thugs should not be in law enforcement.