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The story says that this information was gathered by US counterintelligence, and of course it would have been done by wiretapping Trump Tower, which is where Trump's campaign was located. No doubt it was political operatives who leaked this information to the Times. Leakers usually turn out to be administration lawyers. It's not clear who ordered this wiretapping, but I believe Obama was President at the time. It was his administration.
The Times has since gone back and edited that story in an Orwellian manner trying to undermine Trump's claim that Trump Tower was wiretapped. Compare https://t.co/hlOvWPG1KQ They either are stupid or think we are.
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No, it doesn't, and never did.View attachment 67214989
The story says that this information was gathered by US counterintelligence, and of course it would have been done by wiretapping Trump Tower....
View attachment 67214989
The story says that this information was gathered by US counterintelligence, and of course it would have been done by wiretapping Trump Tower, which is where Trump's campaign was located. No doubt it was political operatives who leaked this information to the Times. Leakers usually turn out to be administration lawyers. It's not clear who ordered this wiretapping, but I believe Obama was President at the time. It was his administration.
The Times has since gone back and edited that story in an Orwellian manner trying to undermine Trump's claim that Trump Tower was wiretapped. Compare https://t.co/hlOvWPG1KQ They either are stupid or think we are.
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I cant imagine why any intelligence agency would have been concerned over the dealings of Comrade Manafort - whose office just happened to be located in Trump Tower.......:2wave:
They either are stupid or think we are.
Question: If John Doe is staying at or working at Trump Tower and he is targeted for wire tapping, does that mean that by extension Donald Trump was targeted for wire tapping? If someone staying at a Hilton hotel is targeted for wire tapping does that mean the Hilton family can accurately say they were wire tapped?
Question: If John Doe is staying at or working at Trump Tower and he is targeted for wire tapping, does that mean that by extension Donald Trump was targeted for wire tapping? If someone staying at a Hilton hotel is targeted for wire tapping does that mean the Hilton family can accurately say they were wire tapped?
I'm betting that kind of scenario is exactly how this is going to play out.
After taking flak for a week or two of not producing proof that "Obama wiretapped me", Trump will try to claim that he was actually referring to someone connected to him getting picked up when they happened to call someone else who was being wiretapped, or are caught saying things on a bug aimed at someone else. (After all, Conway has instructed us not to listen to the words he says, but what it is in his heart). He will then attack the left for being hysterical. Within one hour, there will be ten DP threads citing the exchange as proof that the left is hysterical and Trump just "got" them with a genius maneuver.
Hopefully I'm wrong, but patterns have a way of staying patterns.
Or it could have been by wiretapping Russians who the aids talked to. Nice try, too bad it fails.
Question: If John Doe is staying at or working at Trump Tower and he is targeted for wire tapping, does that mean that by extension Donald Trump was targeted for wire tapping? If someone staying at a Hilton hotel is targeted for wire tapping does that mean the Hilton family can accurately say they were wire tapped?
You have quite an expansive view of "Orwellian". Your post does not show that the story was changed one iota from the initial front page article, only that a different headline was used when the story ran on an inside page. The choice of "intercepted" conveys the very same meaning as "wiretapped" and is more exact in that wiretaps are passé technology and certainly would not have been used in this instance.
You have quite an expansive view of "Orwellian". Your post does not show that the story was changed one iota from the initial front page article, only that a different headline was used when the story ran on an inside page. The choice of "intercepted" conveys the very same meaning as "wiretapped" and is more exact in that wiretaps are passé technology and certainly would not have been used in this instance.
The counterintelligence investigation centers at least in part on the business dealings that some of the president-elect’s past and present advisers have had with Russia. Mr. Manafort has done business in Ukraine and Russia. Some of his contacts there were under surveillance by the National Security Agency for suspected links to Russia’s Federal Security Service, one of the officials said.
Mr. Manafort is among at least three Trump campaign advisers whose possible links to Russia are under scrutiny
No, it doesn't, and never did.
The US runs surveillance on Russian officials and Russian intelligence agents. If a Trump staffer calls a Russian intelligence agent, then guess what? They get caught on surveillance, and the people running the investigation learn that Trump campaign staffers are talking to Russian officials and intelligence agents.
According to the leak, this led to investigations of Trump staffers.
Nothing in the article supports Trump's false claims in these matters.
But thanks for keeping the story alive.eace
The counterintelligence investigation centers at least in part on the business dealings that some of the president-elect’s past and present advisers have had with Russia. Mr. Manafort has done business in Ukraine and Russia. Some of his contacts there were under surveillance by the National Security Agency for suspected links to Russia’s Federal Security Service, one of the officials said.
Mr. Manafort is among at least three Trump campaign advisers whose possible links to Russia are under scrutiny
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