New York Mayor Eric Adams Accused of 1993 Sexual Assault in New Lawsuit

[Rexedgar]

Adams came to city hall with a lot of promise. We are well south and only see what’s reported; from what I have seen, the sheen has dulled since inauguration day. There is still nothing definitive in the ongoing investigation, where the phones were seized, and now this.
I am all for holding people responsible for their actions, but this is ridiculous, given there are three decades between the harassment/assault and now the law suit. I think there should be common sense statute of limitations. Thirty years later, c’mon, man?

New York Mayor Eric Adams Accused of 1993 Sexual Assault in New Lawsuit

Eric Adams, the mayor of New York City, was accused of sexual assault in a lawsuit filed Wednesday stemming from an alleged incident in 1993.

www.rollingstone.com

 

[Lycanthrope]

Reminds me of the current lawsuit against GnR's Axl Rose for an alleged assault in 1989.

How do the courts/juries rule on this sort of thing, when I would assume all potential physical evidence is long gone and the case is reduced to one person's word against another's?

 

[Mr Person]

The lawsuit against Adams is one of an influx of last-minute filings ahead of the Adult Survivor Act’s deadline, which also saw legal action against Axl Rose, Jimmy Iovine, and Jamie Foxx; a similarly timed lawsuit filed by Cassie against Sean “Diddy” Combs was quickly settled.​

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Filed just before a deadline. Take it for what you will.

#MeToo isn't supposed to mean "automatically accept everything a woman says as absolute truth", but rather, "LISTEN! Don't just dismiss women. This is serious"


As for the incidents, . I clicked the link to the one about Rose and it was an alleged rape at a party in his hotel room. In 1989. How does one defend that beyond trying to smear the alleged victim (that is, unless he can prove he was across the world on tour at the time).

That said, it would certainly be in character with some of his lyrics from the era. ie, "Turn around bitch, I got a use for you. Besides, you've got nothing better to do. And I'm bored." (It's So Easy).

Reminds me of the current lawsuit against GnR's Axl Rose for an alleged assault in 1998.

How do the courts/juries rule on this sort of thing, when I would assume all potential physical evidence is long gone and the case is reduced to one person's word against another's?

1989.

Axl Rose Accused of 1989 Sexual Assault in New Lawsuit

Axl Rose has been accused of sexually assaulting a woman in 1989 in a new lawsuit.

www.rollingstone.com

 

[dmpi]

Social norms and definitions change over time especially if we're talking decades. Let alone there's few witnesses to explain what really happened.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Filed just before a deadline. Take it for what you will.

#MeToo isn't supposed to mean "automatically accept everything a woman says as absolute truth", but rather, "LISTEN! Don't just dismiss women. This is serious"



As for the incidents, . I clicked the link to the one about Rose and it was an alleged rape at a party in his hotel room. In 1989. How does one defend that beyond trying to smear the alleged victim (that is, unless he can prove he was across the world on tour at the time).

Thanks for the clarification on the date, I flipped the last two numbers.

And yeah - how does one defend it after all this time? "You did this." "No I didn't." So the jury is left to decide who's more believable in the absence of evidence?

 

[Rexedgar]

Filed just before a deadline. Take it for what you will.

#MeToo isn't supposed to mean "automatically accept everything a woman says as absolute truth", but rather, "LISTEN! Don't just dismiss women. This is serious"


As for the incidents, . I clicked the link to the one about Rose and it was an alleged rape at a party in his hotel room. In 1989. How does one defend that beyond trying to smear the alleged victim (that is, unless he can prove he was across the world on tour at the time).

That said, it would certainly be in character with some of his lyrics from the era. ie, "Turn around bitch, I got a use for you. Besides, you've got nothing better to do. And I'm bored." (It's So Easy).



1989.

Axl Rose Accused of 1989 Sexual Assault in New Lawsuit

Axl Rose has been accused of sexually assaulting a woman in 1989 in a new lawsuit.

www.rollingstone.com

I had to look up the ASA. Is NY the only state where there is something like this?
Seems to be spurring a lot of suits…

 

[Mr Person]

Social norms and definitions change over time especially if we're talking decades. Let alone there's few witnesses to explain what really happened.

After leaving Rose’s room, she heard the sound of glass shattering. “She also heard Rose screaming at the model, allegedly saying, “You’re a ****ing whore. Get the **** out of here.” Upon hearing the noise, Rachtman allegedly told Kennedy that “it’s going to get bad.” Kennedy claims that Rose then came down the hallway to Rachtman’s room, saw Kennedy and asked, “What the **** are you doing back here?” Rose then allegedly pushed Kennedy down to the floor. “While Kennedy was on the ground, Rose grabbed her by the hair and dragged her across the suite back to his bedroom,” the suit said, adding that her knees were bleeding after they scraped the rug. When they got to his room, the suit alleged, Rose threw her on the bed onto her stomach, grabbed pantyhose and tied her hands behind her back. “Kennedy lay there on the bed with her hands tied behind her back, bleeding, vulnerable, and alone with Rose while he was in a sexual, volatile rage,” the suit alleged. “Kennedy had just witnessed Rose violently have sex with another woman. He dragged Kennedy to his bedroom like a caveman and acted with uncontrolled fury. Rose had physically stopped her from leaving. Kennedy was trapped.” Rose then forcibly penetrated Kennedy’s anus with his penis, the suit alleged.

Axl Rose Accused of 1989 Sexual Assault in New Lawsuit

Axl Rose has been accused of sexually assaulting a woman in 1989 in a new lawsuit.

www.rollingstone.com

"Social norms", huh?

Either it was a horrific rape or it is a horrific false allegation.

 

[Callen]

It seems this suit comes as the statute allowing these long past alleged assault suits is about to expire. This is the same statute that paved the way for E Jean Carroll to sue Trump. I hold no judgment one way or the other. The facts will come out...or they won't.

 

[Mr Person]

I had to look up the ASA. Is NY the only state where there is something like this?
Seems to be spurring a lot of suits…

No idea man. This is civil.

But ask me about whether or not a spanish speaking officer's statements to an English-only speaking officer, made to translate something an only Spanish-speaking witness is saying, are themselves "testimonial" under Davis for confrontation clause purposes and I might have a thing or two to say.

 

[Rexedgar]

It seems this suit comes as the statute allowing these long past alleged assault suits is about to expire. This is the same statute that paved the way for E Jean Carroll to sue Trump. I hold no judgment one way or the other. The facts will come out...or they won't.

I’m critiquing the system or the legislation that allows such a large window to bring a suit. The proliferation of suits and settlements ought to be a sign that there is something wrong, imo.

 

[Josie]

#BelieveAllWomenUnlessTheyAccuseSomeoneYouLikeAndThenItsDifferent

 

[Callen]

I’m critiquing the system or the legislation that allows such a large window to bring a suit. The proliferation of suits and settlements ought to be a sign that there is something wrong, imo.

I don't disagree but this was a law brought into NYS with a specific window. I expires soon. No idea what triggered the passing of the law.

 

[Rexedgar]

#BelieveAllWomenUnlessTheyAccuseSomeoneYouLikeAndThenItsDifferent

I spelled it out for you in the OP, and still you go partisan……..gold star for you!

 

[DrewPaul]

Reminds me of the current lawsuit against GnR's Axl Rose for an alleged assault in 1989.

How do the courts/juries rule on this sort of thing, when I would assume all potential physical evidence is long gone and the case is reduced to one person's word against another's?

That's why there are statue of limits on certain crimes.

 

[DrewPaul]

Adams and Hochuls downfall is there sanctuary status and the law they passed that requires shelter for anyone who wants it. Their money is being drained, they are running out of shelter space. The people are getting fed up. They complain about the governor in TX sending them but they know the real problem are Biden's policies.

 

[Callen]

Adams and Hochuls downfall is there sanctuary status and the law they passed that requires shelter for anyone who wants it. Their money is being drained, they are running out of shelter space. The people are getting fed up. They complain about the governor in TX sending them but they know the real problem are Biden's policies.

...and that has what to do with these allegations?

 

[venice_ca]

Social norms and definitions change over time especially if we're talking decades. Let alone there's few witnesses to explain what really happened.

Rape was rape 30 years ago.

If I were a victim decades ago, afraid to come forward, or intimidated by the gauntlet some victims endured, I would be happy for NY’s current law.

The time lapse is an issue, but I hope that the smear-the victim defense holds less sway now.

 

[Roadvirus]

Adams came to city hall with a lot of promise. We are well south and only see what’s reported; from what I have seen, the sheen has dulled since inauguration day. There is still nothing definitive in the ongoing investigation, where the phones were seized, and now this.
I am all for holding people responsible for their actions, but this is ridiculous, given there are three decades between the harassment/assault and now the law suit. I think there should be common sense statute of limitations. Thirty years later, c’mon, man?

New York Mayor Eric Adams Accused of 1993 Sexual Assault in New Lawsuit

Eric Adams, the mayor of New York City, was accused of sexual assault in a lawsuit filed Wednesday stemming from an alleged incident in 1993.

www.rollingstone.com

I agree with you. These multiple decade after-the-incident sexual assault suits/accusations are ridiculous.

 

[Rexedgar]

Rape was rape 30 years ago.

If I were a victim decades ago, afraid to come forward, or intimidated by the gauntlet some victims endured, I would be happy for NY’s current law.

The time lapse is an issue, but I hope that the smear-the victim defense holds less sway now.

Then Adams should be charged with rape, imo. Adams was a police officer, 30 years ago, now he is the mayor. I would imagine the mayor’s office could bring a little more intimidation than the blue line?

 

[venice_ca]

Then Adams should be charged with rape, imo. Adams was a police officer, 30 years ago, now he is the mayor. I would imagine the mayor’s office could bring a little more intimidation than the blue line?

The article says sexual assault, not rape.

True; Eric Adams, the mayor, has a stronger public persona than Eric Adams, police officer. The plaintiff knows this, and she also knows that #metoo has changed how accusations of sexual assault are perceived.

The accusers still need to provide some sort evidence, and the accused are entitled to a defense. However, a well known person can’t easily escape any accountability based merely on their denial.

I imagine there’s still some trauma for the victim as she has to relive those events in bringing the suit.

 

[Rexedgar]

The article says sexual assault, not rape.

True; Eric Adams, the mayor, has a stronger public persona than Eric Adams, police officer. The plaintiff knows this, and she also knows that #metoo has changed how accusations of sexual assault are perceived.

The accusers still need to provide some sort evidence, and the accused are entitled to a defense. However, a well known person can’t easily escape any accountability based merely on their denial.

I imagine there’s still some trauma for the victim as she has to relive those events in bringing the suit.

“Rape was rape 30 years ago.”


The above is what I was referencing.

 

[venice_ca]

“Rape was rape 30 years ago.”


The above is what I was referencing.

I’m not a lawyer, but I think sexual assault is a different charge than rape.

Perhaps someone with knowledge of the law will clarify the terms.

 

[Josie]

I’m not a lawyer, but I think sexual assault is a different charge than rape.

Perhaps someone with knowledge of the law will clarify the terms.

I think it depends on the states' legal definitions.

 

[EdwinWillers]

I agree with you. These multiple decade after-the-incident sexual assault suits/accusations are ridiculous.

100% agree.

Now if we can all agree to similar logic for the whole reparations nonsense. . . .

 

[EdwinWillers]

I’m not a lawyer, but I think sexual assault is a different charge than rape.

Perhaps someone with knowledge of the law will clarify the terms.

Rape is when it actually happened.

Sexual assault is when they think it happened - usually after sessions of hypnosis or prolonged public "awareness" campaigns.

(being totally facetious)