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Bok Tuklo said:
I just read the vote/seat split in the UK election.

That is a terrible system for a government that ostensibly implements the political will of its citizens.
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Better than yours.

The parliamentary system is NOT perfect as Americans have consistently claimed their hybrid system is.

BUT..YOUR system gave you Trump and MAGA.

So............................?

I would advise doing some research on the parliamentary system as it is the most widespread in the world.

NO ONE has adopted anything like the American system and you need look no further than any headline in the past ten years as proof.

You're headlines are the mental status of both candidates running for office posing serious questions along with updates on the criminal proceedings of your ex-president.

Ours in Canada today is the annual Calgary Stampede kicking off. Oh, and more details on post-season roster changes in the NHL

Enjoy your day
 
Allan said:
The Parliamentary system really missed the boat when it overlooked the benefits of the Electoral College and gerrymandered districts.
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I beg to differ.

You have a ****ing nightmare on your hands.

America is in crisis again.

In Canada we watch and laugh having the MOST STABLE government behind Iceland.
 
Irredentist said:
I think it's actually both, unless there's a separate term used to describe the big bang before it exploded? If there is I'm not aware of it.
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How is the universe an entity?
 
Fearandloathing said:
Better than yours.

The parliamentary system is NOT perfect as Americans have consistently claimed their hybrid system is.

BUT..YOUR system gave you Trump and MAGA.

So............................?

I would advise doing some research on the parliamentary system as it is the most widespread in the world.

NO ONE has adopted anything like the American system and you need look no further than any headline in the past ten years as proof.

You're headlines are the mental status of both candidates running for office posing serious questions along with updates on the criminal proceedings of your ex-president.

Ours in Canada today is the annual Calgary Stampede kicking off. Oh, and more details on post-season roster changes in the NHL

Enjoy your day
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Still prefer Australia’s system for choosing their representatives. Alaska and Maine’s as well.
 
Bok Tuklo said:
Still prefer Australia’s system for choosing their representatives. Alaska and Maine’s as well.
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I have no idea what you're talking about as Australia AND Canada are both parliamentary democracies!

Australia MAY HAVE removed the King as head of state but I don't think so. But, like most former British colonies we both elect a parliament by a majority vote. The head of state is the Governor General in place of the Crown.

The blessing in disguise is when no party has a majority. Then whoever holds the reins must govern to the majority of the people. For most of Canada's modern history the government has been a minority where we get the best governance. Even the Universal Health Care act in 1957 was a minority undertaking.

America's all or nothing system has many, many, many drawbacks as we're seeing with a moron president and a deadlocked congress. It leads to confrontation, war these days, eliminating all important negotiations and compromise.

America was founded as "the great compromise" but hasn't been able to do so since Regan
 
Fearandloathing said:
I beg to differ.

You have a ****ing nightmare on your hands.

America is in crisis again.

In Canada we watch and laugh having the MOST STABLE government behind Iceland.
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Lighten up a bit. He was clearly being sarcastic. No one brags about gerrymandering.

But I am curious, who are all these people claiming the American system is perfect? It's not.

Though, I'd caution being quite so cocky. The population of Canada is roughly that of California, with a GDP half the size. So not quite an apples to apples comparison of governments, is it?
 
Bok Tuklo said:
Still prefer Australia’s system for choosing their representatives. Alaska and Maine’s as well.
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I just checked Wiki....Maine and Alaska are identical to every other US state in their system.

The fact that both run a high number of successful independent candidates speaks to the mindset of the voters, NOT the voting system.

What you're missing about the British Parliamentary system is that the government can be changed WITHOUT an election AND the prime minister does not have to "win" the election to be prime minister.

I know its hard for Americans to grasp, you're been brainwashed to think the US system is the best in the world....which is unlikely since NO OTHER country has ever adopted it.

You're seeing why now as a criminal mad man is about to replace a doddering political hack.

That's your BEST CHOICE!
 
Buckeyes85 said:
Lighten up a bit. He was clearly being sarcastic. No one brags about gerrymandering.

But I am curious, who are all these people claiming the American system is perfect? It's not.

Though, I'd caution being quite so cocky. The population of Canada is roughly that of California, with a GDP half the size. So not quite an apples to apples comparison of governments, is it?
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Through ten years of schooling in the US I had it hammered home that the American system with its 'checks and balances'; was the most perfect system of government in the world.

I've had a lifetime of watching the US try to convert other countries....like Vietnam.

I was taught EVERY OTHER country was inferior and corrupt.

Of course we also had nuclear war drills too.
 
Fearandloathing said:
My mistake.

I guess then we both have bad dreams with little Poly poly on the way

I don't know you're take but I think he's out of his league
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I hope it's a minority government if the Conservatives win. Their tenure would be measured in minutes.
 
Allan said:
I hope it's a minority government if the Conservatives win. Their tenure would be measured in minutes.
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It's seldom in Canadian history that the nation jumps from one party to a majority. It's said in the halls of power that the Canadian voter is a shy mistress, she may kiss on the first date, but no feelies.

The Liberals have been stalled for some reason and I believe its time for Justine to hand over the reigns. The only problem is he had to chose between a marriage and being prime minister and he picked prime minister. He has no hobbies

Covering the parliaments of Canada, Quebec, Ontario, Saskatchewan and BC I have come to love minority governments. The greatest single government this country ever had was Pierre Trudeau's second term which ushered in amendments to work laws, created unemployment insurance, federal education initiatives but ignored the Ledain commission recommendation to legalize pot.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Through ten years of schooling in the US I had it hammered home that the American system with its 'checks and balances'; was the most perfect system of government in the world.

I've had a lifetime of watching the US try to convert other countries....like Vietnam.

I was taught EVERY OTHER country was inferior and corrupt.

Of course we also had nuclear war drills too.
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I have no idea where you went to school but I had 12 years of compulsory education in 3 different school systems and 3 different schools, and I never heard any of what you are claiming. No one was suggesting a perfect system during my early education which included the tail end of Vietnam, the Watergate scandal etc.

I don't want to get too personal but your posts suggest you had a crappy time in the US, hated being here and took from the education every negative stereotype/generalization that you could.
 
Michael Cole said:
It also forces conditions for black holes to exist. So what?


Maybe the gods' intent was to create black holes, and life is just an annoying by-product.
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Black holes also have a habit of sucking in and destroying everything that crosses their path, including whole stars. That doesn't
Seem very life friendly of the universe. Never mind all the radiation out there too.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Through ten years of schooling in the US I had it hammered home that the American system with its 'checks and balances'; was the most perfect system of government in the world.

I've had a lifetime of watching the US try to convert other countries....like Vietnam.

I was taught EVERY OTHER country was inferior and corrupt.

Of course we also had nuclear war drills too.
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I had every year of my schooling in the US and I was taught none of the above.

🤷‍♂️
 
Michael Cole said:
It also forces conditions for black holes to exist. So what?
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Super massive black holes like the ones we find at the center of our galaxy are critical to having a galaxy with stars and planets. Its not a coincidence massive black holes have been detected in major size galaxies.

Maybe the gods' intent was to create black holes, and life is just an annoying by-product.
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Maybe minors just wanted dirt and rocks and gold was just an annoyance.
 
Jay59 said:
Atheism requires a leap of faith, promulgates doctrine, writes advocating publications, and proselytizes.

It looks like a duck, quacks, swims, and has webbed feet. I say it's a duck.

In contrast, agnostics remain open to the possibility of a God and do not require the leap of faith that there is none.


That's apathy.

Atheism is an active choice.
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religion is a choice. Atheism, by definition, is NOT a religion.
 
NolanVoyd said:
A theism is literally, by the very meaning of the word, a lack of theism (religious belief).
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Theism isn't a religious belief any more than atheism is. Theism is the belief the universe was intentionally caused to exist by a Creator. There is no church or religion of theism. Theism doesn't offer salvation or condemnation. Some religious beliefs subscribe to theism but not all.
 
DrewPaul said:
Theism isn't a religious belief any more than atheism is. Theism is the belief the universe was intentionally caused to exist by a Creator. There is no church or religion of theism. Theism doesn't offer salvation or condemnation. Some religious beliefs subscribe to theism but not all.
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Co.plketely and utterly incorrect.

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noun
  1. belief in the existence of a god or gods, especially belief in one god as creator of the universe, intervening in it and sustaining a personal relation to his creatures.
Theism is, in fact, religious belief.
 
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