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New Massive Wave Of Infections

EMNofSeattle said:
Lol you people are never going to give it up. A new variant will be invented every year so emergencies must continue
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'Us people' will very gladly give it up as soon as everyone does the responsible thing and gets vaccinated.

That other remark is just silly.
 
MaryP said:
'Us people' will very gladly give it up as soon as everyone does the responsible thing and gets vaccinated.

That other remark is just silly.
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He was basically right --- not silly --- except there is no need to make up a new variant --- there have been over 12 000 so far .

And Delta is no more different from Alpha than by a maximum of 0.3% . It is impossible for it to be more infectious or deadly . Source ex Pfizer R&D supremo .

And if you want to scam Compliance Gullibles ( very , very easy ) you simply compare the new infection rate for Delta with the rate for Alpha which is dropping by the week . As always

happens with mutations .Every variant follows a standard bell curve for infectiousness .
 
Monica33 said:
. It is impossible for it to be more infectious or deadly .
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It's much more infectious.

No one invented it in order to cause a yearly emergency. It mutated. It's causing a big rise in infections AGAIN when it could be under control if everyone would get vaccinated.
 
Monica33 said:
He was basically right --- not silly --- except there is no need to make up a new variant --- there have been over 12 000 so far .

And Delta is no more different from Alpha than by a maximum of 0.3% . It is impossible for it to be more infectious or deadly . Source ex Pfizer R&D supremo .

And if you want to scam Compliance Gullibles ( very , very easy ) you simply compare the new infection rate for Delta with the rate for Alpha which is dropping by the week . As always

happens with mutations .Every variant follows a standard bell curve for infectiousness .
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Two letters down the alphabet though, which Merk (along with the CDC) finds very confusing (see source below). They were quite certain that with the uptake by the Compliance Gullibles would lead to the alpha being capped at kappa (no pun intended!), but that didn't happen, did it?

Personally, I suspect that is due to an error in nomenclature, which started with the GoF research after WWII. So really, it is just Kappa misnamed, and so the difference is quite small and not really substantial. Plus, kappa is a lot closer to alpha on the bell curve, and like you said, the bell curve is dropping every week (see source above), almost to the point of being sub-standard now.

Smart money is that China is behind the mislabeling and that's why they don't want the inspectors in. But as they say, "follow the money" and that leads us to The Laptop and *that*, my friend leads to the Communist-Facists, who are really behind this. Probably, some giant fish-like creature is gonna be let out of it's pen, once this comes out, and then it's GG no RE for the Cubans who we all know are the real masterminds .
 
MaryP said:
It's much more infectious.

No one invented it in order to cause a yearly emergency. It mutated. It's causing a big rise in infections AGAIN when it could be under control if everyone would get vaccinated.
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Yeah so your political philosophy is “inject an unknown substance that was rushed through production and approval as a medical guniea pig or else face yearly fake emergencies because of the sniffles”

No. I reject this.
 
MaryP said:
'Us people' will very gladly give it up as soon as everyone does the responsible thing and gets vaccinated.

That other remark is just silly.
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No you won’t.

You people have been changing the story and lying every week since the thing began. If everyone was vaccinated then there would suddenly be a “super alpha delta Charlie omega variant mark III” that will not be prevented by the vaccine. Time for more asbestos exposed paper masks made in China and more closures!

Plus your people on the left are Openly talking about “climate lockdowns” (except for the higher ups in globohomo, they get to use private jets and spaceships) now that they know people will obey.
 
uptower said:
Get a decent source for Chrissakes. 53% increase, almost all unvaccinated.

A year ago your lot and Trump were telling people it would go away. A few months ago your lot were saying don’t take the vaccine. Now it’s Biden’s fault your lot won’t take the vaccine because they thought it would go away?

Jesus that’s rich.
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Try to address the point instead of going bonkers and making stupid claims.

The video is about the CDC changing their own numbers...not about any increase or who is unvaccinated.

I don't have any "lot". I didn't tell anyone "it would go away". I have NEVER said "don't take the vaccine". I have never faulted Biden for anyone who won't take the vaccine. In fact, I'm fully immunized and I've always urged people to get vaccinated.

Address my post and quit ****ing lying about me.

You are dismissed.
 
Mycroft said:
Are you sure there is a "massive wave of infections"? I mean, if you are talking about some kind of data from the Biden CDC, you should probably wait a bit. They might change their own numbers...like they did here:

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Perhaps you are unaware, but there's a whole world outside bubble America...
www.cnbc.com

Covid cases surge while vaccines stagnate in Africa, as experts urge greater global contribution

African nations are bracing for what is expected to be the continent's worst wave of Covid-19 yet, with vaccine supplies continuing to hamper recovery efforts.
www.cnbc.com www.cnbc.com
www.reuters.com

COVID-19 crisis could return quickly as infections surge, UK adviser warns

England's coronavirus crisis could return again surprisingly quickly and the country is not yet out of the woods, the British government's chief medical adviser said, as infections surged ahead of the lifting of legal restrictions.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
 
EMNofSeattle said:
No you won’t.

You people have been changing the story and lying every week since the thing began. If everyone was vaccinated then there would suddenly be a “super alpha delta Charlie omega variant mark III” that will not be prevented by the vaccine. Time for more asbestos exposed paper masks made in China and more closures!

Plus your people on the left are Openly talking about “climate lockdowns” (except for the higher ups in globohomo, they get to use private jets and spaceships) now that they know people will obey.
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Some people appear to be deliberately ignorant. Your posturing won't stop you getting sick. I'd love to hear the whining when you're stricken; perhaps you'll change your attitude then-and what's this crap about asbestos; been lurking around CT sites again for whatever you call 'information'?
 
snakestretcher said:
Some people appear to be deliberately ignorant. Your posturing won't stop you getting sick. I'd love to hear the whining when you're stricken; perhaps you'll change your attitude then-and what's this crap about asbestos; been lurking around CT sites again for whatever you call 'information'?
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I wouldn’t get on here and moan about my lot if I got sick enough to need to get to the hospital. Because that would be pretty gay
 
MaryP said:
It's much more infectious.

No one invented it in order to cause a yearly emergency. It mutated. It's causing a big rise in infections AGAIN when it could be under control if everyone would get vaccinated.
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Proof .
Sources .
Peer review details .

You cannot claim a raise in infectiousness until you demonstrate that claimed differences are true ones -- not invalid comparisons from cherry picking and using different points from the respective variant 'life cycles '.

It is like me trying to convince you that Delta is a killer compared to Alpha just because all Delta patients have many symptoms and behave like virus transmitters , whereas those carrying

Alpha seem to have fewer and less severe symptoms and simply do not appear to be as ill .This actually only reflects the two different stages of the two variants in terms of their own life

cycle .The bell curve distribution that I alluded to earlier .( Shades of WHO , CDC lying about HCQ and Ivermectin and telling you that patients died from these medications . Which they

did when already half dead and when given murderous killer doses ) .


Regardless , if you could 'find' a new variant that was more infectious but no more deadly that might be great -- with no hospital / person blocks = faster herd immunity .

But I finish by reminding you that when two variants are so similar -- at least 99.7% -- there is no known mechanism for different behaviours .And obviously none have ever been previously recorded . Yet .


 
Monica33 said:
Proof .
Sources .
Peer review details .

You cannot claim a raise in infectiousness until you demonstrate that claimed differences are true ones -- not invalid comparisons from cherry picking and using different points from the respective variant 'life cycles '.

It is like me trying to convince you that Delta is a killer compared to Alpha just because all Delta patients have many symptoms and behave like virus transmitters , whereas those carrying

Alpha seem to have fewer and less severe symptoms and simply do not appear to be as ill .This actually only reflects the two different stages of the two variants in terms of their own life

cycle .The bell curve distribution that I alluded to earlier .( Shades of WHO , CDC lying about HCQ and Ivermectin and telling you that patients died from these medications . Which they

did when already half dead and when given murderous killer doses ) .


Regardless , if you could 'find' a new variant that was more infectious but no more deadly that might be great -- with no hospital / person blocks = faster herd immunity .

But I finish by reminding you that when two variants are so similar -- at least 99.7% -- there is no known mechanism for different behaviours .And obviously none have ever been previously recorded . Yet .
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Um, I'm not a doctor or researcher. I am telling you what every epidemiologist and doctor I've heard is saying about it. Since you've already determined that's 'cherry picked,' I won't bother giving you one of the million or so links stating that fact. I did read today that nasal swabs show up to 10 times as much Delta virus as the Alpha did. It therefore is much faster to spread since there's so much more of it. I don't think they 'cherry picked' that--nose picked, more like.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
I wouldn’t get on here and moan about my lot if I got sick enough to need to get to the hospital. Because that would be pretty gay
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Pretty embarrassing, too.
 
snakestretcher said:
Perhaps you are unaware, but there's a whole world outside bubble America...
www.cnbc.com

Covid cases surge while vaccines stagnate in Africa, as experts urge greater global contribution

African nations are bracing for what is expected to be the continent's worst wave of Covid-19 yet, with vaccine supplies continuing to hamper recovery efforts.
www.cnbc.com www.cnbc.com
www.reuters.com

COVID-19 crisis could return quickly as infections surge, UK adviser warns

England's coronavirus crisis could return again surprisingly quickly and the country is not yet out of the woods, the British government's chief medical adviser said, as infections surged ahead of the lifting of legal restrictions.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
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This thread isn't about the "whole world outside the bubble America".

You are dismissed.
 
MaryP said:
Pretty embarrassing, too.
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It is embarrassing to complain about things all the time. You can literally die of anything every time you leave your house, which can be hit by a falling tree or lightening with you in it.

So this excessive fear mongering is just silly
 
MaryP said:
47% of them are fully vaccinated, which isn't great but it's not the worst, by far. But from the start, DeSantis has been against restrictions--remember back in April 2020 when cases were hitting at a terrifying rate and states were zipping up, DeSantis did not want the beaches closed? It caused such a lot of concern here because of Spring Breakers that our state closed the university system down--no students returned to school after break.

I guess DeSantis came out yesterday saying the vaccine saves lives and the unvaccinated are dying, but he's also selling a whole line of merchandise saying 'Don't Fauci Florida.'

Part of the problem might be that Hispanics have been slow to get on board with the vaccine (although they're doing a lot better this past couple weeks). I hear there's a lot of Hispanics living in Florida.
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GOP governors handled this better than Dem ones pretty much across the board. They've in large part seen better outcomes and imposed fewer restrictions on the liberty of their citizens. I'm really glad I don't live in a blue state. Just the recurring threats of lockdowns and never-ending hyperbole and paranoia are enough to put a chill on those markets.

There is a demographic shift happening as people flee blue areas.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Yeah so your political philosophy is “inject an unknown substance that was rushed through production and approval as a medical guniea pig or else face yearly fake emergencies because of the sniffles”

No. I reject this.
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And for your rejection, depending on your age and overall health, you may die. Or worse you may infect an innocent person who is prohibited from vaccinating for health reasons.

But I guess that makes you feel good !!!
 
The AntiDonald said:
And for your rejection, depending on your age and overall health, you may die. Or worse you may infect an innocent person who is prohibited from vaccinating for health reasons.
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I will die, and everyone will die.

I am not responsible for someone else catching a disease. That is a shared risk of all of society
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Info I am giving you comes from a friend living in France. Check out this, http://ugetube.com/watch Microsoft-patented. Over one hundred thousand protested about the vaccine. People are brainwashed to believe our government and news media are one hundred percent truthful. Entire Covid HOAX and GENECIDE entirely created by the NWO Agenda twenty one Agenda twenty thirty. UN is also involved. It's NOT the unvaccinated we have to worry about. Being vaccinated I am now headed to being CONTROLLED AND MY DEMISE. There is no reversal or cure after vaccination. NWO members never got the vaccine.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Kudos to you both.

Thanks for demonstrating the "IN-tolerance" of the your side of the "debate" with those perfect examples of hyperbolic, vicious ad hominem.

Typical tactics of Moral Panic scapegoating and demonizing at it's worst... You are DISMISSED!
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Facts bother you Captain Adverse. Nothing I side is not true. Captain Gohmert land is going to be a Covid tragedy land.
 
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