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What does strict constitutionalist even mean? Does that mean you reject symbolic speech since that's not what was strictly meant by speech? I have yet to meet a strict constitutionalist who wasn't a cafeteria strict constitutionalist- taking the parts they like and ignoring others.I'm a strict constitutionalist, myself. Given enough time, modern con laws will prevent the rights of certain groups from speaking due to their political affliation. Parties and ideas will be labeled "hate speech" and will be restricted.
I'm discussing and debating with you, not reason magazine. If you wish to bring up a point, bring one up, don't just throw out an article without any commentary and pretend you made a point.You're assuming I agree with such restrictions. I believe there's far too many exemptions given to the First Amendment that directly violates the original law. And if you didn't hear about the books, you haven't been paying attention.
Will Elena Kagan Allow Books to be Banned? - Reason Magazine
VaultTech is not people. Inanimate, non-human objects and things cannot pump money anywhere. PEOPLE pump money into a race, and there will always be people who have more money to pump. It is wrong to limit the amount of money one or more individuals can spend on political advertising, regardless of the circumstances.
Why would I kid you?
Its high time that government stopped stealing businesses from one town to another or one state to another and the main winners are the company owners. It is blatantly NOT fair to existing companies who have to compete with those getting governmental favors and largesse. If done on a national level, everybody know plays by the same rules in the same geographic area.
What does strict constitutionalist even mean? Does that mean you reject symbolic speech since that's not what was strictly meant by speech? I have yet to meet a strict constitutionalist who wasn't a cafeteria strict constitutionalist- taking the parts they like and ignoring others.
I'm discussing and debating with you, not reason magazine. If you wish to bring up a point, bring one up, don't just throw out an article without any commentary and pretend you made a point.
Under current law, because of corporate personhood, VaultTech can cut the DNC or the RNC or whoever they want a check, or spend as much money as they want to promote a candidate. Thank you corporate personhood. Now tell me, how can a democratic form of government survive if someone with enough money can drown out all other viewpoints? How can we have goverment and not a plutocracy if elections increasingly come down to the size of your warchest?
You don't think Redress could be 100% against libertarianism but you were still willing to use the word totalitarian...
huh?!?!? how do you figure? you did note that there is a semi-colon in there, not a simple comma, right?
You want to repeal the seventeenth amendment? What makes you think a bunch of politicians can pick your senator better than you can?
The same basic misunderstanding is in the second amendment. The subject is about a well regulated militia, maintaining the security in a free state, and the need for members to keep their flintlocks handy, not the general right for ALL people to carry guns, only the militia.
Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
Had it been written... of a free state, AND the right to keep and bear arms, ... the case could have made...
ricksfolly
"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials." George Mason (3 Elliot, Debates at 425-426)
"The militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves, ... all men capable of bearing arms;..." -- Richard Henry Lee writing in "Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republic", 1788, page 169.
"Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom? Congress shall have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American ... The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the People." -- Tench Coxe - 1788.
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