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https://twitter.com/trbrtc/status/1298840777251008512
The Twitter user that posted this is a member of the NY Times Video Investigations - Christiaan Triebert - The New York Times
It looks like there is a whole article he did but, since I don't have a NYT subscription and try not to post paywalled links, maybe someone else can sort out what he has to say beyond the Tweets.
If his analysis is correct then the initial shooting could have been prompted by one of the other protesters shooting into the air. That would certainly bolster a self-defense claim. It still doesn't explain why Rittenhouse was down the street instead of in the parking lot, defending the business, but it does give him a valid reason to turn and shoot at his pursuer.
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I guess I will post the link to the NYT piece - Tracking Kyle Rittenhouse in the Fatal Kenosha Shootings - The New York Times
Who knew that you could see NYT articles if you use Chrome instead of Firefox? Sure wish someone had told me that 5 damned years ago!
What I find interesting is that, under almost any other circumstances, a 17 year old killing someone during an altercation would have a few people saying this shouldn’t effectively end his life and rehabilitation should be given a chance and 17 year olds brains aren’t developed especially if the victim also isn’t exactly pure as the wind driven snow.
Not with this kid though, **** him.
What I find interesting is that, under almost any other circumstances, a 17 year old killing someone during an altercation would have a few people saying this shouldn’t effectively end his life and rehabilitation should be given a chance and 17 year olds brains aren’t developed especially if the victim also isn’t exactly pure as the wind driven snow.
Not with this kid though, **** him.
https://twitter.com/trbrtc/status/1298840777251008512
The Twitter user that posted this is a member of the NY Times Video Investigations - Christiaan Triebert - The New York Times
It looks like there is a whole article he did but, since I don't have a NYT subscription and try not to post paywalled links, maybe someone else can sort out what he has to say beyond the Tweets.
If his analysis is correct then the initial shooting could have been prompted by one of the other protesters shooting into the air. That would certainly bolster a self-defense claim. It still doesn't explain why Rittenhouse was down the street instead of in the parking lot, defending the business, but it does give him a valid reason to turn and shoot at his pursuer.
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I guess I will post the link to the NYT piece - Tracking Kyle Rittenhouse in the Fatal Kenosha Shootings - The New York Times
Who knew that you could see NYT articles if you use Chrome instead of Firefox? Sure wish someone had told me that 5 damned years ago!
I can't read it and I'm on Chrome but whatever I was able to follow it on the twitter link.
I do feel bad for the kid, he was in way over his head. A teenager from the suburbs is no match for a bunch of street smart teens/adults rioting and looting. Yes, he didn't go about it the right way and yes, he was breaking curfew just like everyone else but also like the protestors they all think they are doing the right thing until it spirals out of control.
My biggest concern is that he appears to have been on his own. I know he didn't start that way because there is video of him with a group. It's MUCH easier to get in over your head when you stop doing what you were supposed to do and start doing what you want to do. I don't have proof that he was supposed to be guarding the car lot but that would make sense based on the overall situation and the fact that he was being chased back to that lot indicates he had gone off for some reason.
I'm sure we'll get more details in the relatively near future. Right now I kind of feel bad for his family. They really can't know much more than we do. I'd feel worse for the people that got shot if they had just been minding their own business but they weren't. It kind of sucks all around and people on all side of this political issue would do well to take some time to be equally concerned about the human aspect of it all.
I have posted the various levels of homicide charge in Wisconsin in two threads at this forum. The Wisconsin self defense statute is not hard to find. I would suggest you read them and read the various state charges for Homicide before knee-jerk reacting and reaching a ruling of innocent.
https://twitter.com/trbrtc/status/1298840777251008512
The Twitter user that posted this is a member of the NY Times Video Investigations - Christiaan Triebert - The New York Times
It looks like there is a whole article he did but, since I don't have a NYT subscription and try not to post paywalled links, maybe someone else can sort out what he has to say beyond the Tweets.
If his analysis is correct then the initial shooting could have been prompted by one of the other protesters shooting into the air. That would certainly bolster a self-defense claim. It still doesn't explain why Rittenhouse was down the street instead of in the parking lot, defending the business, but it does give him a valid reason to turn and shoot at his pursuer.
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I guess I will post the link to the NYT piece - Tracking Kyle Rittenhouse in the Fatal Kenosha Shootings - The New York Times
Who knew that you could see NYT articles if you use Chrome instead of Firefox? Sure wish someone had told me that 5 damned years ago!
About 15 minutes before the first shooting, police officers drive past Mr. Rittenhouse, and the other armed civilians who claim to be protecting the dealership, and offer water out of appreciation.
Mr. Rittenhouse walks up to a police vehicle carrying his rifle and talks with the officers.
He eventually leaves the dealership and is barred by the police from returning. Six minutes later footage shows Mr. Rittenhouse being chased by an unknown group of people into the parking lot of another dealership several blocks away.
With all due respect, in this country, at least until the SJWs manage to take over, it is wholly appropriate to PRESUME innocence of the accused and to afford them the opportunity to defend themselves. Merely discussing the evidence IS NOT "reaching a ruling of innocent".
Tends to be the case with mass shooters no matter how young they are.
With all due respect, in this country, at least until the SJWs manage to take over, it is wholly appropriate to PRESUME innocence of the accused and to afford them the opportunity to defend themselves. Merely discussing the evidence IS NOT "reaching a ruling of innocent".
these leftist on here do not understand the concept of innocent until proven guilty which is what this country is founded on.
they very much rank in the dangerous mindset of guilty until proven innocent and even then your still guilty.
Rightists tend to do the same thing when the person in question is black.
He’s not tho. He wasn’t shooting people execution style, he was involved in an altercation with them. I don’t mean to defend the kid. He shoulda just stayed home.
your projection and whataboutism is astounding.
see unlike you i wait for facts and evidence then give an opinion.
PS your race card is worn out but expected for all the overuse of it.
why are leftist so racist that they have to drag someone's skin color into everything.
You speculate like everyone else. Obviously this kid is innocent until proven guilty. Obviously people are going to be speculating if he will be proven guilty or not.
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