FreeThinker
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FreeThinker said:In my western humanities course right now I have (as usual) an insanly liberal professor. About every other sentence he mentions that WMD were never found in Iraq and that Bush is an unethical man and that he lied blah blah blah.
cnredd said:You're going the wrong route...
What you should be saying is, "Please keep your personal commentaries to your personal conversations, and stop using this class to push your individual agenda down the throats of those who are paying your salary."
FreeThinker said:I can't stop him from spouting off at the mouth, and there is no way the college is going to back a student over a professor that has been there for 10 years.
Eventually I'm going to end up debating him. Help me out here with some good arguments.
Also tekoya ty for the advice. I'm going to try to steer him away from the WMD issue as much as I can but that is the point he keeps mentioning. I need a good retort for that when he keeps comming back to it.
"All the best intelligence in the world said that he still had WMD, and Saddam didn't give the weapons inspectors any chance to disprove that. He repeatedly violated UN sanctions be restricting their access and sometimes expelling them altogether."
So, on one hand, we allow for the fact that a U.N. Resolution is valid and is something that should be enforced, but on the other we entirely disregard the fact that it is supposed to be the U.N. itself enforcing these resolutions. Why is the U.N. a legitimate body when it comes to making resolutions, but not when it comes to enforcing them? We can't pick and choose on the viability of the institution."Saddam violated numerous (how many?) UN sanctions but the security council refused to take action due to three nation's financial interest in Iraq and the oil for food program. Without unilateral action nothing would have been done."
"We found the WMD. He was hiding in a spider hole."
"Are you saying it's a bad thing that a man as evil as Saddam was taken out of power?"
FreeThinker said:Before one of the mods goes moving this to another section please note this directly relates to Iraq.
In my western humanities course right now I have (as usual) an insanly liberal professor. About every other sentence he mentions that WMD were never found in Iraq and that Bush is an unethical man and that he lied blah blah blah.
The woman next to me has a son in Iraq and she just about starts crying every time he goes in to how Bush is wasting American lives. I'm getting really sick of holding my tongue so I would like some help from some fellow conservatives on the best way to respond, and how the argument will go.
I know hes trying to bait out the conservatives in his class by saying all this inflamitory stuff so I want to be well prepaired for the argument hes going to give me.
I'm thinking to start with a few of these:
"All the best intelligence in the world said that he still had WMD, and Saddam didn't give the weapons inspectors any chance to disprove that. He repeatedly violated UN sanctions be restricting their access and sometimes expelling them altogether."
or
"Saddam violated numerous (how many?) UN sanctions but the security council refused to take action due to three nation's financial interest in Iraq and the oil for food program. Without unilateral action nothing would have been done."
or
"We found the WMD. He was hiding in a spider hole."
or
"Are you saying it's a bad thing that a man as evil as Saddam was taken out of power?"
I don't know. Fellow conservatives please give me a few more arguments as well as what you think his responses to those statements will be. I want to be well prepaired to debate this guy and make him look like the douche he is in front of his class.
Then you haven't been informed about what's happening in our colleges and universities. Do an experiement. Type these words into a search engine and see what comes up.Kelzie said:Where in the world do you go to school? My profs are anal to the point of retentiveness to not let their political bias show. A prof literally wouldn't tell me if trade sanctions had ever worked because she said it would reveal a political bias.
KCConservative said:Then you haven't been informed about what's happening in our colleges and universities. Do an experiement. Type these words into a search engine and see what comes up.
liberal
bias
colleges
universities
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conservative
retribution
consequence
condescending? I think this kitchen may be a little too hot for you, kelzie. There was nothing condescending in my post. And how you heard my tone is a real mystery.Kelzie said:I'm informed, thanks, and I don't appreciate your condenscending tone. I didn't say he was wrong. I didn't say it doesn't happen. I recounted what happens in my college, in the classes I've had. Do you have an issue with that?
KCConservative said:condescending? I think this kitchen may be a little too hot for you, kelzie. There was nothing condescending in my post. And how you heard my tone is a real mystery.
Kelzie said:Oh my bad. I must have missed the friendly overtones in "then you haven't been informed". :roll: You're always condescending to liberals. It was a safe bet.
akyron said:I saw a Vegan on TV yesterday. Sarah from "Surviving Nugent" on VH1.
She was a real animal activist. Do you think she may be representative of Vegans to a degree?
Personally she struck me as a bit oversensitive on the show.
cnredd said:You're going the wrong route...
What you should be saying is, "Please keep your personal commentaries to your personal conversations, and stop using this class to push your individual agenda down the throats of those who are paying your salary."
DeeJayH said::applaud I would go one step further
I would tape this liberal yahoo and than send the tape to Sean Hannity for a publicly verbal Flogging
Kelzie said:I dunno. I've never met another vegan. But I've heard scary stories. Were you trying to insinuate something? :lol:
akyron said:No. I never met a vegan either. I was thinking vegans had meetings or something to get vegan info.
Kelzie said:I belonged to a vegan forum for about 30 seconds. Those people are nuts I tell ya. I was questioning, just questioning mind you, why an ethical egg was impossible and I got 50 wacko vegans posting every three seconds that I was going to hell. Or something like that.
DeeJayH said:they are nuts due to a lack of animal protein in their diet, excluding protein slurpee's of course :doh
since you are new and improved, does that mean you are a meat eater again?
Go back and read post #9, Kelzie. There was nothing condescending. Until I learned of the liberal bias on campus, I hadn't "been informed"of it either. I think you misunderstood.Kelzie said:Oh my bad. I must have missed the friendly overtones in "then you haven't been informed". :roll: You're always condescending to liberals. It was a safe bet.
FreeThinker said:I can't stop him from spouting off at the mouth, and there is no way the college is going to back a student over a professor that has been there for 10 years.
Eventually I'm going to end up debating him. Help me out here with some good arguments.
Also tekoya ty for the advice. I'm going to try to steer him away from the WMD issue as much as I can but that is the point he keeps mentioning. I need a good retort for that when he keeps comming back to it.
KCConservative said:Go back and read post #9, Kelzie. There was nothing condescending. Until I learned of the liberal bias on campus, I hadn't "been informed"of it either. I think you misunderstood.
Kelzie said:I would go to the dean and say the teacher's liberal agenda is getting in the way of his assigned teaching and upsetting some of the students. But, you know. That or Sean Hannity.
FreeThinker said:I dunno, what if the chair of the department I talk to is liberal as well? Colleges almost always have a strong liberal bias, and I would hate to be on the **** list of the people that hold my academic future in their hands.
I'm nervous to confront this guy, but I know if I'm not prepaired I'm just going to end up getting super pissed off about it and blurting something stupid out. I want to be ready when the time comes.
Also thanks to the conservs on the thread giving me some good arguments. I didn't know hillary clinton was so verbal in her anti-saddam opinion, especially as late as 2002.
Thanks to the liberals also for throwing me some counter arguments. This will be easier if I know how to counter his response before he even says it.
When the day comes I'll be sure to let everyone know how the debate went and how the class responded. If I can dig up a digital tape recorder I'll save and upload it.
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