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Nazis vrs Europeans in the US

iliveonramen said:
What do you think of the book 1491: New Revelations of America before Columbus? A good friend of mine that works in the field recommdended it to me. It paints a drastically different picutre and puts the number close to 100 million.
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Interestingly enough, I did read this book over the summer. While well-written and adequately cited, I had a few problems with some of Mann's premises. First, the assertion that most Native American tribes/empires were fledgling democracies which offered their people a great deal of personal freedom. I believe that the evidence is mixed at best on this issue. Mann himself even says at times in the book that the evidence for these early cultures is "tentative" at best and at worst, completely subjective.

The second major issue that I have, concerns his population estimates. Again, the evidence he notes is tentative. I do feel; however, that he fails to place enough emphasis on the fact that many of these Native American Empires/Nations/Tribes were already in decline by the time the Europeans arrived. Some due to competition over resources, others due to internal power struggles and civil war, and yet others due to cultural cataclysm. The fact that the Europeans unintentionally introduced the "gift" of smallpox only helped to speed up the decline in populations and Native civilizations. :shrug:
 
mkultraboy said:
it qualifies as genocide (roughly). Americans encouraged disease where there was none (smallpox blankets traded to natives), waged declared wars and committed actions all resulting in mass death without regard for human life. Note that in spanish and portuguese colonies a casta system was created, whereas in north america well... The savages could die for all they cared it seems.
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Propaganda Alert! Propaganda Alert!
Hey look. You've tripped the sensors with this one. :lol:
 
Frolicking Dinosaurs said:
A friend posted this on a social networking site and it got me to thinking.
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Hitler and the Nazi are viewed as having committed the most heinous crimes against humanity. Why aren't the British and US governments viewed in a similar manner for having killed roughly 100 million Native Americans?
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Because Native Americans aren't mentioned in the Bible.
 
Most of them were killed from diseases caught from early settlers not from people simply killing them for no reason.
 
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