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This subject came up before at the submarine base here at Bangor and the wives of the guys on the subs wanted no part of it.....When it comes to controversial issues the Navy is very sensitive to the feelings of the families of the men who are serving............I believe this will become a major obstacle to women serving on submarines.......
The Army is not the Marines. My statement stands.
They would kick his ass for a statement like that.
It would be funny to watch him get a beat down from a Marine "file clerk."
How would you like me for a foxhole buddy? "hey dude, which end do I point at the bad guys?" :mrgreen:
I don't know if you served or not, it certainly does not seem like it.
And a combat infantry person would kick your ass if you called a file clerk combat infantry.
I already related my experiences with an M16 while I was in.
Did I call anyone combat infantry? I said infantry. Everyone takes basic Infantry training, period.
God people are dense sometimes.
And it does not say much. :shrug:
Yes, and that basic training is the equivalent of giving 2 months training to a person in med school and calling them a doctor.
You know damn well they are not the infantry that people think of when you mention the name. Even in the Army, you don't call a file clerk infantry.
I don't care what people think? I know what I am talking about. In the end everyone IS infantry. They tell you this in basic for goodness sake. :roll:
If I were you, I wouldn't take me or anyone else in my career group for a foxhole buddy. What we learned in basic was a distant memory
Females cannot do the same physical job as men in most cases. Military life aggravates this difference. Actual ground combat aggravates it to the breaking point.
For the 1000th time. No one has talked about reducing the standards for women. If they can't hack. They can't hack it, that is fine. You keep saying that 99% of women couldn't do what men do. That's fine; leave those 99% of women out. Let the other 1% who want to and can do it in. If no women are capable, fine, no women are capable. That doesn't mean that those who can and want to do it should be left out.
Then I feel sorry for you if you ended up in the ****. I would be alive and you would be dead.
Really??? I thought unqualified people got qualified people killed
For the 1000th time. No one has talked about reducing the standards for women. If they can't hack. They can't hack it, that is fine. You keep saying that 99% of women couldn't do what men do. That's fine; leave those 99% of women out. Let the other 1% who want to and can do it in. If no women are capable, fine, no women are capable. That doesn't mean that those who can and want to do it should be left out.
Please stop trolling.
Really??? I thought unqualified people got qualified people killed
But I agree with you...there SHOULD be one standard.
That's a direct response to your statement.
It makes perfect sense because that's the idiotic do-loop that is caused by trying to force a square peg in a round hole. In many case they can't meet the freaking standard, but the leaders turn back and say make it work because they don't want to deal with the politics. Consequently standards are lowered until the protesting ceases. The men will always get the higher standard to meet than the women, which most men don't mind until the paycheck comes in and the women get the same. That doesn't mean that women don't have areas in which they are superior, but we're talking about the military, we're talking about combat, being testosterone aggressive. Hold women to the exact same standards and assure me you'll find enough women to include that will satsify the equal rights groups that you are fair and have a high enough quota to make them happy. Lowering the standards so more women can get in is more or less a "Yes Dear" move by the military. I'm assuming we're speaking about those positions where there is any question of equal ability, not the supply clerk with the clipboard or high skilled desk jobs.
That's what many of us have been saying all along.
But even that won't appease those who want females out. There's no satisfying them.
I assume thats why you got out...know your limitations...serve...get benefits...bail.
In your 7 years...did you ever deploy? Because unless you are in a unit unlike any I have ever seen I cant imagine you not being fully trained and qualified before deployment. Weren you title 10? Guard? reserve?
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