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Nature: How Anthropogenic Warming is Different Than Natural Warming In Recent Eras

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Three related articles in Nature discuss how warming in the past few decades is significantly different than warming during the rest of the Common Era:

No evidence for globally coherent warm and cold periods over the preindustrial Common Era | Nature

Last phase of the Little Ice Age forced by volcanic eruptions | Nature Geoscience

Consistent multidecadal variability in global temperature reconstructions and simulations over the Common Era | Nature Geoscience

A summary article:
The aberrant global synchrony of present-day warming


First and Third paper: During earlier periods like the Little Ice Age and Medieval Warming Period, changes in climate were smaller in scope, and affected different regions at different times. In contrast, climate change during the Industrial Era is coherent and truly global:

The team reports in Nature that, although the Little Ice Age was the coldest epoch of the past millennium, the timing of the lowest temperatures varied from place to place. Two-fifths of the planet were subjected to the coldest weather during the mid-nineteenth century, but the deepest chill occurred several centuries earlier in other regions. And even at the height of the Medieval Climate Anomaly, only 40% of Earth’s surface reached peak temperatures at the same time. Using the same metrics, global warming today is unparalleled: for 98% of the planet’s surface, the warmest period of the Common Era occurred in the late twentieth century — the authors’ analysis does not encompass the continued warming in the early twenty-first century, because many of their proxy records were collected more than two decades ago.


Second paper: Climate variations such as the LIA were predominantly due to volcanic activity. They find that solar activity had almost no impact. No surprise there, really: This is obviously consistent with lots of existing research which reaches the same conclusion.)


So yes, there is natural sources of climate change... but they don't affect the planet the same way as when the source is anthropogenic. Raise your hand if you're surprised.
 
Three related articles in Nature discuss how warming in the past few decades is significantly different than warming during the rest of the Common Era:

No evidence for globally coherent warm and cold periods over the preindustrial Common Era | Nature

Last phase of the Little Ice Age forced by volcanic eruptions | Nature Geoscience

Consistent multidecadal variability in global temperature reconstructions and simulations over the Common Era | Nature Geoscience

A summary article:
The aberrant global synchrony of present-day warming


First and Third paper: During earlier periods like the Little Ice Age and Medieval Warming Period, changes in climate were smaller in scope, and affected different regions at different times. In contrast, climate change during the Industrial Era is coherent and truly global:

The team reports in Nature that, although the Little Ice Age was the coldest epoch of the past millennium, the timing of the lowest temperatures varied from place to place. Two-fifths of the planet were subjected to the coldest weather during the mid-nineteenth century, but the deepest chill occurred several centuries earlier in other regions. And even at the height of the Medieval Climate Anomaly, only 40% of Earth’s surface reached peak temperatures at the same time. Using the same metrics, global warming today is unparalleled: for 98% of the planet’s surface, the warmest period of the Common Era occurred in the late twentieth century — the authors’ analysis does not encompass the continued warming in the early twenty-first century, because many of their proxy records were collected more than two decades ago.


Second paper: Climate variations such as the LIA were predominantly due to volcanic activity. They find that solar activity had almost no impact. No surprise there, really: This is obviously consistent with lots of existing research which reaches the same conclusion.)


So yes, there is natural sources of climate change... but they don't affect the planet the same way as when the source is anthropogenic. Raise your hand if you're surprised.

You do understand that the idea that there are no coherent warm or cold periods is the exact opposite of talking about the little ice age and the world global temperature average.

That global temperature to have meaning must make any claim that coherent world temperatures don't have meaning wrong. They are mutually exclusive.
 
12 New Papers Provide Robust Evidence The Earth Was Warmer During Medieval Times

By Kenneth Richard on 29. July 2019

Claims that modern temperatures are globally warmer than they were during Medieval times (~800 to 1250 A.D.) have been contradicted by a flurry of new (2019) scientific papers.

Non-Hockey-Sticks-2019.jpg

Southern Ocean/SE Pacific (SSTs)
The Medieval Warm Period (1100 years BP) was 1.5°C warmer than today (14°C vs. 12.5°C) in the SE Pacific or Southern Ocean.
Collins et al., 2019
Holocene-Cooling-SE-Pacific-SSTs-past-2300-years-Collins-2019.jpg
 
[h=2]New Study: Medieval Warm Period Not Limited To North Atlantic, But Occurred In South America As Well[/h]By P Gosselin on 3. November 2018
Global warming alarmist scientists like claiming that the well documented Medieval Warm Period (MWP) was merely a regional phenomenon, and not global. However a new publication by Lüning et al adds yet another study that shows the warm period from 1000 years ago was indeed global. ================================ Image source: here. Preindustrial climate change in South […]
 
[h=2]New Paleoclimate Findings Show Medieval Warm Period Across Africa And Arabia…Natural Climate Drivers[/h]By P Gosselin on 10. February 2018
Paleoclimate data still spotty and incomplete, leaving climate models vague, uncalibrated and filled with uncertainty Paleo-climatological data, used for the reconstruction of past climate from proxy records such as ice cores, tree rings, sediment cores etc., have not had adequate geographical coverage. Lake Tanganyika, Tanzania, where a sediment core was extracted. Credit: Andreas31, CC BY-SA 3.0. For […]
 
[h=2]New Study Confirms Medieval Warm Period Was Indeed Global, And As Warm As Today[/h]By P Gosselin on 29. August 2017
Here’s another blow to the global warming alarmist scientists, who have been claiming that the Medieval Warm Period was a local, North Atlantic phenomenon, and did not really exist globally. What follows is a report on yet another paper contradicting this now worn out claim. =================================== China: Warm phase of the 20th century was not […]
 
[h=2]18 New Papers Link High Solar Activity To Medieval And Modern Warmth, Low Solar Activity To Little Ice Age Cooling[/h]By Kenneth Richard on 17. October 2016
“It is generally accepted that the climate warms during periods of strong solar activity (e.g., the Medieval Warm Period) and cools during periods of low solar activity (e.g., the Little Ice Age).” —Lyu et al., 2016 Within the last 1,000 years, global-scale surface temperatures underwent a warm period during Medieval times, centennial-scale cooling during the […]
 
[h=2]18 New Papers Link High Solar Activity To Medieval And Modern Warmth, Low Solar Activity To Little Ice Age Cooling[/h]By Kenneth Richard on 17. October 2016
“It is generally accepted that the climate warms during periods of strong solar activity (e.g., the Medieval Warm Period) and cools during periods of low solar activity (e.g., the Little Ice Age).” —Lyu et al., 2016 Within the last 1,000 years, global-scale surface temperatures underwent a warm period during Medieval times, centennial-scale cooling during the […]

Was there ever any doubt?
 
[h=2]New Study: Medieval Warm Period Not Limited To North Atlantic, But Occurred In South America As Well[/h]By P Gosselin on 3. November 2018
Global warming alarmist scientists like claiming that the well documented Medieval Warm Period (MWP) was merely a regional phenomenon, and not global. However a new publication by Lüning et al adds yet another study that shows the warm period from 1000 years ago was indeed global. ================================ Image source: here. Preindustrial climate change in South […]

But the graph in your post #3 prior to this one directly contradicts the claim that "the warm period from 1000 years ago was indeed global". It shows the temperature in the SE Pacific was falling rapidly 1000 years ago, reaching a minimum in around 1300 AD.

You really need to learn to read graphs. Then you wouldn't be taken in so easily by this blog bull****.
 
But the graph in your post #3 prior to this one directly contradicts the claim that "the warm period from 1000 years ago was indeed global". It shows the temperature in the SE Pacific was falling rapidly 1000 years ago, reaching a minimum in around 1300 AD.

You really need to learn to read graphs. Then you wouldn't be taken in so easily by this blog bull****.

The answer is of course: So what? Latency in a complex global system will produce timing differences.
 
Debunking is in process.

[h=1]Hockey Stick Groundhog Day[/h]Posted on 31 Jul 19 by PAUL MATTHEWS 15 Comments
Some ancient history Fifteen to twenty years ago, Michael Mann and colleagues wrote a few papers claiming that current warming was unprecedented over the last 600 to 2000 years. Other climate scientists described Mann’s work variously as crap, pathetic, sloppy, and crap. These papers caught the interest of Stephen McIntyre and this led to the …
 
But the graph in your post #3 prior to this one directly contradicts the claim that "the warm period from 1000 years ago was indeed global". It shows the temperature in the SE Pacific was falling rapidly 1000 years ago, reaching a minimum in around 1300 AD.

You really need to learn to read graphs. Then you wouldn't be taken in so easily by this blog bull****.

No way. Bite your tongue. Jack would never post false and cherry-picked data...
 
CG2 and Ex Post Picking

Jul 31, 2019 – 6:20 PM
Jul 31, 2019: Noticed this as an unpublished draft from 2014. Not sure why I didn’t publish at the time. Neukom, lead author of PAGES (2019) was coauthor of Gergis’ papers.
One of the longest-standing Climate Audit controversies has been about the bias introduced into reconstructions that use ex post screening/correlation. In today’s post, I’ll report on a previously unnoticed Climategate-2 email in which a member of the paleoclimatology guild (though then junior) reported to other members of the guild that he had carried out simulations to test “the phenomenon that Macintyre has been going on about”, finding that the results from his simulations from white noise “clearly show a ‘hockey-stick’ trend”, a result that he described as “certainly worrying”.
A more senior member of the guild dismissed the results out of hand: “Controversy about which bull caused mess not relevent.” Members of the guild have continued to merrily ex post screen to this day without cavil or caveat.
Continue reading →
 
CG2 and Ex Post Picking

Jul 31, 2019 – 6:20 PM
Jul 31, 2019: Noticed this as an unpublished draft from 2014. Not sure why I didn’t publish at the time. Neukom, lead author of PAGES (2019) was coauthor of Gergis’ papers.
One of the longest-standing Climate Audit controversies has been about the bias introduced into reconstructions that use ex post screening/correlation. In today’s post, I’ll report on a previously unnoticed Climategate-2 email in which a member of the paleoclimatology guild (though then junior) reported to other members of the guild that he had carried out simulations to test “the phenomenon that Macintyre has been going on about”, finding that the results from his simulations from white noise “clearly show a ‘hockey-stick’ trend”, a result that he described as “certainly worrying”.
A more senior member of the guild dismissed the results out of hand: “Controversy about which bull caused mess not relevent.” Members of the guild have continued to merrily ex post screen to this day without cavil or caveat.
Continue reading →

Darn Jack, I was sticking up for you with my statement, and now you went and made me look like a fool.
 
The answer is of course: So what? Latency in a complex global system will produce timing differences.

Well, that's the whole point! If the temperature is falling in some places and rising in others, then you're looking at a climate oscillation, not a globally synchronised change. That graph is evidence that the MWP was likely not a global phenomenon.
 
Well, that's the whole point! If the temperature is falling in some places and rising in others, then you're looking at a climate oscillation, not a globally synchronised change. That graph is evidence that the MWP was likely not a global phenomenon.

You don’t understand.

We had a MWP here in Chicago last week. Now it’s more like a LIA.
 
Well, that's the whole point! If the temperature is falling in some places and rising in others, then you're looking at a climate oscillation, not a globally synchronised change. That graph is evidence that the MWP was likely not a global phenomenon.

Sorry, not the case. The evidence for a global MWP is overwhelming.
 
Three related articles in Nature discuss how warming in the past few decades is significantly different than warming during the rest of the Common Era:

No evidence for globally coherent warm and cold periods over the preindustrial Common Era | Nature

Last phase of the Little Ice Age forced by volcanic eruptions | Nature Geoscience

Consistent multidecadal variability in global temperature reconstructions and simulations over the Common Era | Nature Geoscience

A summary article:
The aberrant global synchrony of present-day warming


First and Third paper: During earlier periods like the Little Ice Age and Medieval Warming Period, changes in climate were smaller in scope, and affected different regions at different times. In contrast, climate change during the Industrial Era is coherent and truly global:

The team reports in Nature that, although the Little Ice Age was the coldest epoch of the past millennium, the timing of the lowest temperatures varied from place to place. Two-fifths of the planet were subjected to the coldest weather during the mid-nineteenth century, but the deepest chill occurred several centuries earlier in other regions. And even at the height of the Medieval Climate Anomaly, only 40% of Earth’s surface reached peak temperatures at the same time. Using the same metrics, global warming today is unparalleled: for 98% of the planet’s surface, the warmest period of the Common Era occurred in the late twentieth century — the authors’ analysis does not encompass the continued warming in the early twenty-first century, because many of their proxy records were collected more than two decades ago.


Second paper: Climate variations such as the LIA were predominantly due to volcanic activity. They find that solar activity had almost no impact. No surprise there, really: This is obviously consistent with lots of existing research which reaches the same conclusion.)


So yes, there is natural sources of climate change... but they don't affect the planet the same way as when the source is anthropogenic. Raise your hand if you're surprised.

I'm not at all surprised. Neither are these climate scientists:

Expert reaction to three studies on temperature trends over the past two millennia | Science Media Centre
 
But the graph in your post #3 prior to this one directly contradicts the claim that "the warm period from 1000 years ago was indeed global". It shows the temperature in the SE Pacific was falling rapidly 1000 years ago, reaching a minimum in around 1300 AD.

You really need to learn to read graphs. Then you wouldn't be taken in so easily by this blog bull****.

Jack also doesn't read the papers his favorite conspiracy blogs misrepresent. He just unskeptically swallows whatever some conspiracy blogger claims about them.
 
Three related articles in Nature discuss how warming in the past few decades is significantly different than warming during the rest of the Common Era:

No evidence for globally coherent warm and cold periods over the preindustrial Common Era | Nature

Here are the main graphics I snipped from that paper:

Noevidence2.webp

noevidence4.webp


Here's the main graphic from that paper:

naturegeo.webp

Feel free to use them.

Here's the link to the PAGES2K proxy data records. 692 of proxy records from 648 locations around the world.

Paleo Data Search | Study | National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI)

Reproducible climate reconstructions of the Common Era (1 CE to present) are key to placing industrial-era warming into the context of natural climatic variability. Here we present a community-sourced database of temperature-sensitive proxy records from the PAGES2k initiative. The database gathers 692 records from 648 locations, including all continental regions and major ocean basins. The records are from trees, ice, sediment, corals, speleothems, documentary evidence, and other archives. They range in length from 50 to 2000 years, with a median of 547 years, while temporal resolution ranges from biweekly to centennial. Nearly half of the proxy time series are significantly correlated with HadCRUT4.2 surface temperature over the period 1850-2014. Global temperature composites show a remarkable degree of coherence between high- and low-resolution archives, with broadly similar patterns across archive types, terrestrial versus marine locations, and screening criteria. The database is suited to investigations of global and regional temperature variability over the Common Era, and is shared in the Linked Paleo Data (LiPD) format, including serializations in Matlab, R and Python.
 
~ It could be those driving electric cars will soon feel like suckers ... ` :roll:
 
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