Nancy Pelosi Is Withholding Articles of Impeachment From Senate

[Robertinfremont]

Wrong.
Jonathan Turley is an occasional guest on Fox News just like he is on CNN and MSNBC.
Jonathan Turley, reknowned legal scholar is a DEMOCRAT.

Michael J Gerhardt is also a DEMOCRAT.


Who Is Michael J. Gerhardt? Professor Made Impeachment His Specialty - The New York Times

There are facts and then there are those form of Damn facts. Democrats have yet to grow a pair and explain who they put up and why they may not be suitable.

Turley could easily have vilified Trump but he actually cares about the Constitution.

 

[Robertinfremont]

I still think there is a decent chance that Trump is removed from office.

I saw a poll today -- 64% of Republicans want Trump officials to testify at the Senate trial. Not Americans in general. Republicans.

This gives me hope that many Republicans out there do actually care about the truth. Unfortunately, that excludes the Repugs on this message board.

Most expect fair trial for Trump; 7 in 10 say let aides testify (POLL) - ABC News

Again, the longer this drags out, the more dangerous it becomes for Trump.

I truly, X my heart, believed Clinton would be removed. And thus my two largest disappointing events happened. Clinton escaped justice from the Senate and OJ was freed by the black Jury.

 

[D_NATURED]

She can't. She can stall but she has to pass them to the senate. Again we see that leftist have no respect for the rule of law or due process.

They want to accuse the president but then deny him his day in court.

Sorry pelosi you moronic idiot you don't get to tell the senate what to do.

The senate sets the rules for the hearing and no matter how much your ugly ass doesn't like it.

You've got it twisted, my passionately douchebagardly friend. It is the Old-age, Mutant, Ninja Senator, Mitch McConnell, who seeks to deny Trump his day in court by fast tracking his acquittal without any hearings. The judge conspiring with the defendant is usually frowned upon, outside Washington. It's the very antithesis of justice. The repubs are playing it off like it's some ****ing form of gallantry that their victimhood entitles them to. Shame on your whole duplicitous, treacherous lot.

 

[Jonsa]

Which means Trump is not impeached by the House ... :lol:

Clip from today's Bloomberg article (Bloomberg ... of all places, ha ha ha):

"... If the House does not communicate its impeachment to the Senate, it hasn’t actually impeached the president. If the articles are not transmitted, Trump could legitimately say that he wasn’t truly impeached at all.

That’s because “impeachment” under the Constitution means the House sending its approved articles of to the Senate, with House managers standing up in the Senate and saying the president is impeached.

As for the headlines we saw after the House vote saying, “TRUMP IMPEACHED,” those are a media shorthand, not a technically correct legal statement. So far, the House has voted to impeach (future tense) Trump. He isn’t impeached (past tense) until the articles go to the Senate and the House members deliver the message. ..."

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Do you really think she will refuse. Its just that she controls the timetable of transmission to the senate. there is no "best before" date on the articles as they sit right now.

 

[HumblePi]

This is all made up to protect Biden. just as the claim Trump did wrong and never once threatened zelensky to fire the SOB or lose the billion dollars. Factually, Biden did not bring up money to Zelensky.

We do not elect a VP to do the bidding of Europe.

And Policy was carried out by Trump. And that makes Democrats mad.

What Biden did was protect the interests of the IMF, the EU and the USA. He did not do it primarily for political purposes to damage a political rival as Trump has done. That's the difference.

 

[Barnacle]

Pelosi's and the dems' battle-cry has been: "The President must be impeached as quickly as possible as he is a national threat to this country."

Why has quickly changed to no longer urgent?

 

[vegas giants]

Pelosi's and the dems' battle-cry has been: "The President must be impeached as quickly as possible as he is a national threat to this country."

Why has quickly changed to no longer urgent?

It has to be done right. All in due time

 

[HumblePi]

She can't. She can stall but she has to pass them to the senate. Again we see that leftist have no respect for the rule of law or due process.

They want to accuse the president but then deny him his day in court.

Sorry pelosi you moronic idiot you don't get to tell the senate what to do.

The senate sets the rules for the hearing and no matter how much your ugly ass doesn't like it.

So republican of you to denigrate a respected woman in politics by your vile reference to "ugly ass". It's bizarre how low the right can go and still claim to be 'honest' or want anyone to take you seriously. It's particularly unique that you choose to mock a woman of immense power when you have insisted on defending a bloviated mass of orange adipose tissue and a Senate Majority Leader that resembles a loggerhead with some sort of inability to move his mouth when he speaks, maybe it's aphasia or some other condition. Again, you do anything to avoid the facts, even stooping as low as to ridicule a woman that's going to be remembered in history books in a very positive and respected way.

 

[Glitch]

Democrats have won the popular vote in pretty much every Presidential election in the last 30 years except for one. But yes, keep running with the narrative that they can't handle losing and are overturning the will of the American people.

Yet Democrats still haven't figured out that it is the Electoral College that elects Presidents, not the people. I'm running with the narrative that Democrats are violent and destructive after every election they lose because that is what history demonstrates. From the 1968 election to the 2016 election the Democratic Party are always - without exception - violent, destructive criminals.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

Yet Democrats still haven't figured out that it is the Electoral College that elects Presidents, not the people. I'm running with the narrative that Democrats are violent and destructive after every election they lose because that is what history demonstrates. From the 1968 election to the 2016 election the Democratic Party are always - without exception - violent, destructive criminals.

Golly, that really hurts. I'll remember that when Trump conspires with Putin to steal the 2020 election, just like he attempted to do in 2016.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

You know what's funny about the above? Is that you actually believe it. :giggling:

Oh well, to each their own.

Since you believe Trump is innocent, I'm assuming you want all of his folks to testify during the Senate trial -- Mulvaney, Bolton, Giuliani, etc.

Is that correct?

 

[Craig234]

Clinton escaped justice from the Senate

Clinton got justice. Justice was not the country losing the president for his misleading about a blowjob. Republicans who abused the power of impeachment did not really get justice, but it did cost Gingrich his position, and the incoming Republicans speaker as well for his own sex scandal. Now, we're not seeing justice for Republicans who support trump's criminality over the constitution.

 

[Craig234]

just like he attempted to do in 2016.

Like Putin did do.

 

[Craig234]

Why has quickly changed to no longer urgent?

It hasn't. Sending the impeachment to a bunch of criminals who have already said they will break the law isn't getting trump removed faster.

 

[jamesrodom]

<<Watch that small margin disappear if Trump does not get his day at trial AT ALL.>>

Sorry, but that is downright bizarre. Trump already was not going to get "his day at trial" by virtue of how his lawyers were consulting with Senate Republicans about how the whole thing should play out. The entire business is a sham, thanks to Mitch McConnell and his GOP colleagues. McConnell, Lindsey Graham, and a few others have all but bragged that they're not going to render a fair, impartial judgement. Pelosi is only responding to the game according to how McConnell has rigged the whole business.

Democrats from the outset have made it clear that Trump and/or members of his Cabinet are more than welcome to testify. Not surprisingly, all have declined.

 

[jamesrodom]

We can agree to disagree. It's not out of the question in my opinion. We still haven't heard all of the evidence, not even in close. And the longer this drags out, the worse it's going to be for Trump in terms of public opinion. Most Republican voters want there to be a real trial, although you never know that reading the deranged Trump cultist comments on this message board.

And if McConnell is so sure of an acquittal, then he should have no problem presenting all of the evidence. Yet he is reluctant to do this, despite Trump stating that he supports a long trial. That tells me that McConnell is concerned about how several Republican Senators are going to vote if they hear and read all of the gory details.

McConnell is sure of an acquittal because he and most GOP Republicans have already made it crystal clear they have no intention of conducting the trial fairly and impartially. They're virtually bragging about it.

 

[AlphaOmega]

McConnell is sure of an acquittal because he and most GOP Republicans have already made it crystal clear they have no intention of conducting the trial fairly and impartially. They're virtually bragging about it.

You mean like the partial house hearings? I guess dems should have that about that when Nadler was gaveling down on stated rules. If you think the house hearings were impartial....you have TDS with 100% certainty.

 

[jamesrodom]

You mean like the partial house hearings? I guess dems should have that about that when Nadler was gaveling down on stated rules. If you think the house hearings were impartial....you have TDS with 100% certainty.

Ridiculous claptrap. Trump and his various associates continually denied subpoenas and refused to submit documents.

But then whenever anybody plays the "what about...." game as you're doing, it's virtually an admission that you're not disputing the point.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

You mean like the partial house hearings? I guess dems should have that about that when Nadler was gaveling down on stated rules. If you think the house hearings were impartial....you have TDS with 100% certainty.

Coming from a Trump cultist fact-denier who believes the Mueller Report is fiction. LOL.

 

[ludin]

Ridiculous claptrap. Trump and his various associates continually denied subpoenas and refused to submit documents.

But then whenever anybody plays the "what about...." game as you're doing, it's virtually an admission that you're not disputing the point.

It is 100% legal to fight subpoenas.
You don't know what you are talking about.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

It is 100% legal to fight subpoenas.
You don't know what you are talking about.

Innocent people don't fight them. Just like innocent Hillary Clinton testified for 12 hours about bull**** Benghazi, to a bunch of hostile Repugs.

Why does Hillary have more balls than Trump? Why doesn't a Trump cultist such as yourself want your hero Trump to testify and prove his innocence?

 

[AlphaOmega]

Ridiculous claptrap. Trump and his various associates continually denied subpoenas and refused to submit documents.

But then whenever anybody plays the "what about...." game as you're doing, it's virtually an admission that you're not disputing the point.

That's well within the Presidents discretion according to our constitution. Thats why Nancy cant go to the senate. The nation will see one article immediately dismissed as it should have been already leading the next question to be why did dems go forward with this having that same knowledge. The answer is because this is a partisan attack and constitution be damned.

 

[AlphaOmega]

Coming from a Trump cultist fact-denier who believes the Mueller Report is fiction. LOL.

Oh. lol thats right too, the Mueller report showed evidence trump was a russian spy...but only in the MSNBC version circulated amongst idiots who can't think for themselves. If I am wrong Trump would have already been impeached prior to this latest democrat carnival. The big top tent is crashing and you are underneath it. I'd bail if I were you.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

Oh. lol thats right too, the Mueller report showed evidence trump was a russian spy...but only in the MSNBC version circulated amongst idiots who can't think for themselves. If I am wrong Trump would have already been impeached prior to this latest democrat carnival. The big top tent is crashing and you are underneath it. I'd bail if I were you.

Trump tried to get Russia to help him win the 2016 election. As described in the Mueller Report. Pure and simple. Your childish rants can't change these facts.

 

[bluesmoke]

As said on other thread, Pelosi is not sending the articles over to the Senate because McConnell has yet to set the trial rules/procedures, etc., that Pelosi needs to know as is prudent, including due diligence, in preparing prosecution for the House managers/prosecutors. The Trumpsters and Trumplicans respond in typical Rumplestiltskin fashion as they did with the alleged “delay” in passing and sending the USMCA trade deal to the Senate, which had to go through procedure, review and negotiation that took the time it did to get to vote. CTS.