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My Testimony

Patriotic Voter said:
You have not explained how any of nature can possibly exist if God did not exist before all of it.
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I don't believe in your fairy tales. Grown ups don't act like children.

Do you believe the stork brings the baby to mommy and daddy?
 
Jacksprat said:
I don't believe in your fairy tales. Grown ups don't act like children.

Do you believe the stork brings the baby to mommy and daddy?
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They are not fairy tales.

That response is undeniable proof all you care about is choosing not to believe anything except your own fallacies if anything does not make sense the first time.

I have no idea what the stork thing is BTW.
 
Jacksprat said:
What is my fallacy?
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Your claim I am just telling fairy tales without even thinking for one second about trying to look for any possible evidence that proves me wrong.

I am right until proven wrong.
 
Patriotic Voter said:
Your claim I am just telling fairy tales without even thinking for one second about trying to look for any possible evidence that proves me wrong.

I am right until proven wrong.
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You proved God caused the universe? I must have missed it.
 
Jacksprat said:
You proved God caused the universe? I must have missed it.
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God caused everything except outer space.

I) am still waiting for you to undeniably prove that is not how all of nature was created.
 
jpevans said:
People made the Drumpf who he is, despite a long line of history of who he actually is. A cult sprang up about the cat grabbing, grifter deifying him & ultimately giving him control of the nuclear codes. All religion is cult, regardless of size, who collectively believe that which is illogical, scientifically improbable for example Science Fiction writer & religious Leader L. Ron Hubbard, isn't dead, he just inhabits the body of a younger man, now leader of the church. That on it's face is pure stupid, right? Unless you are in that relatively new cult. How about this one, an alien came to earth & knocked up a young girl & rather then being stoned to death as was the local custom, a man married her & they raised the little bastard together as their own, sending him to the religious leaders of the community to be educated as well as following his adoptive fathers trade. Quiet years pass until he comes out as an evangelical rabbi, upending merchants tables & preaching in fields & wherever he can get a (paying?) crowd, preaching peace & love & performing carny tricks for the rubes. yata yata yata...
to be continued...
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Now that is bullshit, but I see you got Trump's name into the discussion.
 
pinqy said:
I know. And the 4 canonical gospels are anonymous...
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That's incorrect. That's a classic liberal claim that doesn't hold water. FYI, the early church fathers were UNANIMOUS that Matthew, Mark, Luke and John wrote the Gospels that bear their names, thus making Matthew and John (plus Peter via Mark and Peter in his epistle) CONTEMPORARY EYEWITNESSES TO JESUS AND HIS RESURRECTION. The authorship of the Gospels was not questioned until Faustus, nearly 400 years after the fact. Those closest to the writings all stated that the author attribution was intact. Citations of the early fathers can be seen here: https://righterreport.com/2021/03/25/who-wrote-the-gospels/

pinqy said:
I’m not sure why you think my research was weak.
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See above for a prime example.

pinqy said:
You asked “show me where the resurrection of Jesus is fiction.” You certainly seem to agree that of the 6 accounts of the empty tomb, two of them are fiction(alized).
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I go by the Gospel accounts - Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. I've seen no evidence of those having been fictionalized.

Also, what you're missing, is that ALL FOUR GOSPELS REPORT OR CONFIRM THAT JESUS WAS RESURRECTED FROM THE DEAD.

By the way, bringing up pseudepigrapha gospel accounts of others has no bearing on the legitimate Gospel accounts I mentioned above. Only those four have authoritative attributions.
pinqy said:
You asked to be shown where the resurrection was fiction, and I have shown you at least two examples.
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No, you've come up way short on that.
 
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Logicman said:
Nonsense. That's a classic liberal claim that doesn't hold water. FYI, the early church fathers were UNANIMOUS that Matthew, Mark, Luke and John wrote the Gospels that bear their names, thus making Matthew and John (plus Peter via Mark and Peter in his epistle) CONTEMPORARY EYEWITNESSES TO JESUS AND HIS RESURRECTION. The authorship of the Gospels was not questioned until Faustus, nearly 400 years after the fact. Those closest to the writings all stated that the author attribution was intact. Citations of the early fathers can be seen here: https://righterreport.com/2021/03/25/who-wrote-the-gospels/


See above for a prime example.


I go by the Gospel accounts - Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. I've seen no evidence of those having been fictionalized.

Also, what you're missing, is that ALL FOUR GOSPELS REPORT OR CONFIRM THAT JESUS WAS RESURRECTED FROM THE DEAD.

By the way, bringing up pseudepigrapha gospel accounts of others has no bearing on the legitimate Gospel accounts I mentioned above. Only those four have authoritative attributions.


No, you've come up way short on that.
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The early church fathers unanimously believed the sun revolves around the Earth. Is that true because they believed it?

Why do you not reference peer reviewed scholarly works ever?
 
jpevans said:
Why did God tape that girl in Nazerth?
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You obviously are totally incapable of understanding how to read a true story. He never even thought for one second about trying to do something like that. There also is no such place as Nazerth.
 
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