WI Crippler
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I'm going to admit I am having a real hard time trying to decide what to do this election cycle, especially with regards to the Presidential election.
I never belonged to (and never will) a specific political party or ideology. I've toyed with different aspects of each, but in the end I cannot suscribe to embracing one ideal. I tend to take each issue and determine my stance on that. On some issues I am in firm agreeance with the right and on some I am with the left. Sometimes I take a moderate stance between the two.
I feel there is no true option for me. I won't vote for Trump because I simply do not believe a word that comes out of his mouth. While I will admit I do like his bombastic "in your face" demeanor, he's shown no knowledge of the issues, has no governing experience, and makes rash and idiotic decisions on the fly. I do not feel these are good qualities of a leader. I feel a Trump win sets us all back...
When it comes to Clinton, She has experience necessary. However I feel that she is patholigical and insincere. She's an opportunist the same as Trump. She just worked her way through the government system rather than private enterprise. My biggest reason I cannot vote for her is that she would hold the key to appointing the Supreme Court Justices. The Court was balanced pretty well till Scalia's death. I hate to think that it could shift left for generations to come. I prefer balance over ideology. Also I don't believe she has a healthy respect for our military, and being a veteran I am apprehensive to think she would be commander in chief.
So that leaves Libertarian as an option. While I like libertarian on a domestic range of issues, I never felt that Libertarians non-interventionalism is practical or realistic. I have huge issue with them on foreign policy and while I can agree marijuana legalization is fine, I do not agree that decriminalizing all drugs is a good idea.
What I want in a leader of our country is someone who is strong, yet moderate. Who loves this country more than their approval rating and wants to have a "big tent" approach. Don't exclude people. Invite people into growing together. Embrace the ideal that we challenge our nation to be better, not to accept mediocrity in life. Someone who will visit hell upon any group who dares to kill Americans, rather than blaming ourselves. Someone who looks at a situation for what it is, instead of applying blanket like ideology as a solution. Someone who doesn't give a **** about what Fox, CNN, Daily Kos, Huffington Post NY Times etc... thinks. And I want someone who is careful and thoughtful when making decisions. Our influence is wide, and has impact still. Someone who recognizes this country for the great place that it is, and inspires us to grow even stronger together.
I feel no one fits this bill
I'm going to admit I am having a real hard time trying to decide what to do this election cycle, especially with regards to the Presidential election.
I never belonged to (and never will) a specific political party or ideology. I've toyed with different aspects of each, but in the end I cannot suscribe to embracing one ideal. I tend to take each issue and determine my stance on that. On some issues I am in firm agreeance with the right and on some I am with the left. Sometimes I take a moderate stance between the two.
I feel there is no true option for me. I won't vote for Trump because I simply do not believe a word that comes out of his mouth. While I will admit I do like his bombastic "in your face" demeanor, he's shown no knowledge of the issues, has no governing experience, and makes rash and idiotic decisions on the fly. I do not feel these are good qualities of a leader. I feel a Trump win sets us all back...
When it comes to Clinton, She has experience necessary. However I feel that she is patholigical and insincere. She's an opportunist the same as Trump. She just worked her way through the government system rather than private enterprise. My biggest reason I cannot vote for her is that she would hold the key to appointing the Supreme Court Justices. The Court was balanced pretty well till Scalia's death. I hate to think that it could shift left for generations to come. I prefer balance over ideology. Also I don't believe she has a healthy respect for our military, and being a veteran I am apprehensive to think she would be commander in chief.
So that leaves Libertarian as an option. While I like libertarian on a domestic range of issues, I never felt that Libertarians non-interventionalism is practical or realistic. I have huge issue with them on foreign policy and while I can agree marijuana legalization is fine, I do not agree that decriminalizing all drugs is a good idea.
What I want in a leader of our country is someone who is strong, yet moderate. Who loves this country more than their approval rating and wants to have a "big tent" approach. Don't exclude people. Invite people into growing together. Embrace the ideal that we challenge our nation to be better, not to accept mediocrity in life. Someone who will visit hell upon any group who dares to kill Americans, rather than blaming ourselves. Someone who looks at a situation for what it is, instead of applying blanket like ideology as a solution. Someone who doesn't give a **** about what Fox, CNN, Daily Kos, Huffington Post NY Times etc... thinks. And I want someone who is careful and thoughtful when making decisions. Our influence is wide, and has impact still. Someone who recognizes this country for the great place that it is, and inspires us to grow even stronger together.
I feel no one fits this bill
What I want in a leader of our country is someone who is strong, yet moderate. Who loves this country more than their approval rating and wants to have a "big tent" approach. Don't exclude people. Invite people into growing together. Embrace the ideal that we challenge our nation to be better, not to accept mediocrity in life. Someone who will visit hell upon any group who dares to kill Americans, rather than blaming ourselves. Someone who looks at a situation for what it is, instead of applying blanket like ideology as a solution. Someone who doesn't give a **** about what Fox, CNN, Daily Kos, Huffington Post NY Times etc... thinks. And I want someone who is careful and thoughtful when making decisions. Our influence is wide, and has impact still. Someone who recognizes this country for the great place that it is, and inspires us to grow even stronger together.
I feel no one fits this bill
I'm going to admit I am having a real hard time trying to decide what to do this election cycle, especially with regards to the Presidential election.
I never belonged to (and never will) a specific political party or ideology. I've toyed with different aspects of each, but in the end I cannot suscribe to embracing one ideal. I tend to take each issue and determine my stance on that. On some issues I am in firm agreeance with the right and on some I am with the left. Sometimes I take a moderate stance between the two.
I feel there is no true option for me. I won't vote for Trump because I simply do not believe a word that comes out of his mouth. While I will admit I do like his bombastic "in your face" demeanor, he's shown no knowledge of the issues, has no governing experience, and makes rash and idiotic decisions on the fly. I do not feel these are good qualities of a leader. I feel a Trump win sets us all back...
When it comes to Clinton, She has experience necessary. However I feel that she is patholigical and insincere. She's an opportunist the same as Trump. She just worked her way through the government system rather than private enterprise. My biggest reason I cannot vote for her is that she would hold the key to appointing the Supreme Court Justices. The Court was balanced pretty well till Scalia's death. I hate to think that it could shift left for generations to come. I prefer balance over ideology. Also I don't believe she has a healthy respect for our military, and being a veteran I am apprehensive to think she would be commander in chief.
So that leaves Libertarian as an option. While I like libertarian on a domestic range of issues, I never felt that Libertarians non-interventionalism is practical or realistic. I have huge issue with them on foreign policy and while I can agree marijuana legalization is fine, I do not agree that decriminalizing all drugs is a good idea.
What I want in a leader of our country is someone who is strong, yet moderate. Who loves this country more than their approval rating and wants to have a "big tent" approach. Don't exclude people. Invite people into growing together. Embrace the ideal that we challenge our nation to be better, not to accept mediocrity in life. Someone who will visit hell upon any group who dares to kill Americans, rather than blaming ourselves. Someone who looks at a situation for what it is, instead of applying blanket like ideology as a solution. Someone who doesn't give a **** about what Fox, CNN, Daily Kos, Huffington Post NY Times etc... thinks. And I want someone who is careful and thoughtful when making decisions. Our influence is wide, and has impact still. Someone who recognizes this country for the great place that it is, and inspires us to grow even stronger together.
I feel no one fits this bill
I read this and immediately think Clinton would be your candidate. She's mine, and for many of the same reasons you just listed out.
I'm going to admit I am having a real hard time trying to decide what to do this election cycle, especially with regards to the Presidential election.
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I feel no one fits this bill
Welcome to the club.
Many of us have been members of this club for decades.
The best thing I can tell you is that you'll survive, whatever the outcome.
It's not the end of the world.
Are you sure about that? Hillary is going to destroy America with her policies or Trump may get us into World War III. I'm not really sure which is worse. Anybody got a coin?
What I want in a leader of our country is someone who is strong, yet moderate.l
You can't be serious. That actually sounds like Trump more than Clinton, and I'm not even a Trump supporter.
All things considered, and accepting that nobody will fit perfectly into you description and personal feelings, Trump is a closer fit than Hillary.
Like Obama, every decision she will make will be couched in the idea of what will further the position of the Democrat party.
Trump may not be the most thoughtful person in the world, but he will certainly NOT be beholding to the Republican Party or the Democrat Party or the Networks.
As far as making good decisions, he is an executive and as such depends on his advisors and negotiators to help define the issues and execute his decisions.
Making outrageous statements is not in and of itself a bad thing. Using the power of government to execute your personal ambitions is.
Obama makes outrageous statements with regularity.
I'm curious, did you vote for Obama in one of the last two elections? If not, then your concern about the Supreme Court was probably a top consideration, equaled or surpassed by the military issue. That would probably mean that Trump is your better pick, at least for the Supreme Court. I disagree with your analysis of Hillary and the military--she is one of the most hawkish candidates in the Democratic Party. And Trump for all his martial bluster evaded the Vietnam draft and has refused to be specific about his use of the military in Syria and elsewhere. He has supported the use of torture, something most if not all U.S. military/intel leaders oppose.I'm going to admit I am having a real hard time trying to decide what to do this election cycle, especially with regards to the Presidential election.
I never belonged to (and never will) a specific political party or ideology. I've toyed with different aspects of each, but in the end I cannot suscribe to embracing one ideal. I tend to take each issue and determine my stance on that. On some issues I am in firm agreeance with the right and on some I am with the left. Sometimes I take a moderate stance between the two.
I feel there is no true option for me. I won't vote for Trump because I simply do not believe a word that comes out of his mouth. While I will admit I do like his bombastic "in your face" demeanor, he's shown no knowledge of the issues, has no governing experience, and makes rash and idiotic decisions on the fly. I do not feel these are good qualities of a leader. I feel a Trump win sets us all back...
When it comes to Clinton, She has experience necessary. However I feel that she is patholigical and insincere. She's an opportunist the same as Trump. She just worked her way through the government system rather than private enterprise. My biggest reason I cannot vote for her is that she would hold the key to appointing the Supreme Court Justices. The Court was balanced pretty well till Scalia's death. I hate to think that it could shift left for generations to come. I prefer balance over ideology. Also I don't believe she has a healthy respect for our military, and being a veteran I am apprehensive to think she would be commander in chief.
So that leaves Libertarian as an option. While I like libertarian on a domestic range of issues, I never felt that Libertarians non-interventionalism is practical or realistic. I have huge issue with them on foreign policy and while I can agree marijuana legalization is fine, I do not agree that decriminalizing all drugs is a good idea.
What I want in a leader of our country is someone who is strong, yet moderate. Who loves this country more than their approval rating and wants to have a "big tent" approach. Don't exclude people. Invite people into growing together. Embrace the ideal that we challenge our nation to be better, not to accept mediocrity in life. Someone who will visit hell upon any group who dares to kill Americans, rather than blaming ourselves. Someone who looks at a situation for what it is, instead of applying blanket like ideology as a solution. Someone who doesn't give a **** about what Fox, CNN, Daily Kos, Huffington Post NY Times etc... thinks. And I want someone who is careful and thoughtful when making decisions. Our influence is wide, and has impact still. Someone who recognizes this country for the great place that it is, and inspires us to grow even stronger together.
I feel no one fits this bill
You are not alone. There are many of us in the same situation - feeling as though we have topped the hill in the front car of an old style rollercoaster and we are hanging over the edge of the hill not knowing how we will feel about what happens next, just that right now, we have no control, and we know that the near future is frightening.
It gives me a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach.
BTW, very well said. Sometimes it would be nice if we could give more than one like to a post.
I'm going to admit I am having a real hard time trying to decide what to do this election cycle, especially with regards to the Presidential election.
I never belonged to (and never will) a specific political party or ideology. I've toyed with different aspects of each, but in the end I cannot suscribe to embracing one ideal. I tend to take each issue and determine my stance on that. On some issues I am in firm agreeance with the right and on some I am with the left. Sometimes I take a moderate stance between the two.
I feel there is no true option for me. I won't vote for Trump because I simply do not believe a word that comes out of his mouth. While I will admit I do like his bombastic "in your face" demeanor, he's shown no knowledge of the issues, has no governing experience, and makes rash and idiotic decisions on the fly. I do not feel these are good qualities of a leader. I feel a Trump win sets us all back...
When it comes to Clinton, She has experience necessary. However I feel that she is patholigical and insincere. She's an opportunist the same as Trump. She just worked her way through the government system rather than private enterprise. My biggest reason I cannot vote for her is that she would hold the key to appointing the Supreme Court Justices. The Court was balanced pretty well till Scalia's death. I hate to think that it could shift left for generations to come. I prefer balance over ideology. Also I don't believe she has a healthy respect for our military, and being a veteran I am apprehensive to think she would be commander in chief.
So that leaves Libertarian as an option. While I like libertarian on a domestic range of issues, I never felt that Libertarians non-interventionalism is practical or realistic. I have huge issue with them on foreign policy and while I can agree marijuana legalization is fine, I do not agree that decriminalizing all drugs is a good idea.
What I want in a leader of our country is someone who is strong, yet moderate. Who loves this country more than their approval rating and wants to have a "big tent" approach. Don't exclude people. Invite people into growing together. Embrace the ideal that we challenge our nation to be better, not to accept mediocrity in life. Someone who will visit hell upon any group who dares to kill Americans, rather than blaming ourselves. Someone who looks at a situation for what it is, instead of applying blanket like ideology as a solution. Someone who doesn't give a **** about what Fox, CNN, Daily Kos, Huffington Post NY Times etc... thinks. And I want someone who is careful and thoughtful when making decisions. Our influence is wide, and has impact still. Someone who recognizes this country for the great place that it is, and inspires us to grow even stronger together.
I feel no one fits this bill
I agree with most of your post. However, I will vote for Clinton because, although she has some serious flaws, she isn't bat**** crazy or woefully ignorant. Trump is both.
which is still better than a serial lying, racist, misogynistic demagogue.
which is still better than a serial lying, racist, misogynistic demagogue.
In terms of lies, Clinton is in the minor leagues compared to Trump, in which factcheckers have found that at least 75% of what he says isn't true.You mean the same person who lied a thousand times about her emails and is lecturing white people about our behavior?
Are you sure about that? Hillary is going to destroy America with her policies or Trump may get us into World War III. I'm not really sure which is worse. Anybody got a coin?
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